posted July 23, 2012 11:15 PM            

"The opposition of Jupiter and Saturn in a composite chart means that the two of you must find an equilibrium. You have a natural tendency to swing back and forth between moods of opposite extremes, such as deep pessimism and great optimism.
It is often the case that two conflicting tendencies are represented by each of you separately, one of you taking the expansive role while the other is more cautious.
Needless to say, the two of you must learn to be patient in dealing with each other. You have to give each other room without trying to limit freedom of self-expression. If each of you can express your mood swings without constantly running into resistance from your partner, the two of you should be able to coexist in some degree of harmony and avoid unnecessary ups and downs."

In my case, we've always gotten along really well but it has been true that we will take turns switching roles between pursuing the relationship and running away from how deep it can feel lol

posted July 24, 2012 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
belage: thanks for answering how this aspect in addition to venus oppo saturn affect the compatibility?

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posted July 24, 2012 11:01 PM            

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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
wooow firemoon, is the person already involved? how does the person feel towards you?

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Sorry I just saw this now, but yep, we've both been involved (on and off) with other people over the 4 years we've been involved with each other (also on and off) lol. We've respected each other (and the other person) enough to back off when we're involved with someone else, and we can go months without seeing each other or even talking but when we do meet up again the connection is just as strong as ever and it feels like we never lost contact... It's hard to know exactly how he feels about me or exactly how I feel about him even, because we've tried to keep emotional attachment secondary since circumstances have never allowed for us to officaly commit.

But I will say that recently (in the past 6 months) there has been no denying the affection between us... Aside from sweet talk, gifts, talk about a future together (initiated by him, with no reason for him to feel obligated lol), it has just become obvious to me that there are deeper feelings there and I've been struggling with whether I should have fought harder for this relationship.... But... once again external circumstances will not allow for this to become anything serious right now. I'm moving away for a year and he's getting back together with an ex. Our composite is kind of a mess with the outer planets, we have the love stellium (sun conjunct merc, opposite venus) but all of them are square to outer planets (saturn, neptune and uranus) Sooo, as much as its hurtful to think I might have missed out on my chance with him, it's just something I don't have much control over at this point. If it's meant to be it will happen I guess

Edit to add: we consider each other friends first primarily and have a very nurturing and supportive relationship, it's also a very intense intellectual connection; we talk about things we wouldn't and haven't with most other people. So yeah it's a very idealistic feeling being together, but whether or not it will actually manifest into anything solid long term seems impossible to get a handle on lol

Anyway, sorry for writing a novel lol. What is your relationship like with the person you have these aspects with? Do you feel like feelings are restricted by external circumstances??

posted July 25, 2012 06:05 AM            

Yes, they are at odds with each other, but they also complement each other or really need what the other has to offer.

Jupiter is about expansion, great ideals etc. (anything BIG actually).
Saturn is pretty much on the other end of the scale about focusing, pragmatism/ realism etc.

Jupiter can need some of that Saturnian energy to check if his ideals and dreams are even able to be manifested in reality (or if they are just nice fluffy castles in the clouds, which still is a beautiful thing - sais my Pisces- jupiter ).

And Saturn, well, quite honestly Saturn needs to lighten up sometimes and as the saying goes: You have to have a dream, to have a dream come true.

Saturn tends to censor himself and others to the point of suffocating any ability to dream, have ideals, especially if they are not "traditional".

So Saturn can give the needed grounding to high flying Jupiter.
And Jupiter can help Saturn to loose up a little, to risk having a dream just ONCE.

In an opposition there will of course be a struggle between them, pulling into two different directions.

But the thing with oppositions is that the opposing signs actually have something in common: the modality and they are in compatible elements.
The same modality sometimes seems to be a difficult thing (squares also share the same modality), as the horns may lock (or evade each other - as with the mutable signs can be).
But having compatible elements certainly helps.

The opposition is also of course known for its relation to projection, which would be more clear in the composite I think.

Ultimately though with an opposition people can actually find some sort of balance IF and only IF they acknowledge that their different modes of behaviour (Jupiter-Saturn) can be teamed up for a shared goal for example.

Actually Jupiter-Saturn often appears in relationship,a nd I think, like Popcorn sais, it relates to a social dimension of the relationship,a nd also to the ability to work together as a couple, to team up.

But it takes a lot of work to get to that balance with the o pposition of Jupiter-Saturn I think, and you need to be willing to put the effort into making the relationship work.