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Plutonian_Rossi
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posted July 25, 2012 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Rossi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings!

I believe I'm overly anxious for input towards this upcoming transit. Fast approaching and I'm scrambling to prepare for it. My fellow Scorpio Asc ppl, just how do you feel about it? I have mars, saturn and pluto in asc square sun...are we talking formidable perseverance maybe? Or more towards toning things down and fastening my seatbelt VERY tightly? lol

Your pov pls?

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posted July 25, 2012 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ready for the world is how I feel.

The Saturn Return asks us to find the courage to head in the right direction in our life, the path that we were intended to take when we were born. It’s a wake up call. It’s a time to consider your unique individual needs, the contribution you want to make to the world, the resources that are important to you, inner and outer, and who will go with you on your journey. It is said that making the right authentic choices at 30 guarantees a more happy and fulfilled life and better health since it is stressful to live a lie. It is not uncommon for relationships and jobs to end during this time of life restructuring and reevaluation. On the other hand, many people also marry and take on big responsibilities at this time as well. Many major life milestones seem to happen around the ages of 29 and 30 and this is why astrologers believe the 30th birthday is a major rite of passage because it marks the true beginning of adulthood, self-evaluation, independence, ambition, and self-actualization.

The Saturn Return in Scorpio

“If you were born with Saturn in Scorpio, the issues during your Saturn Return will be about sexuality, assets, death and loss, trust and betrayal, personal magnetism, manipulation, revenge, extortion, seduction, self mastery and personal power.”
http://www.scorpioseason.com/2011/01/the-saturn-return/

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posted July 25, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm soo looking forward for it to move out of my Libra Sun.

Really? It was a nightmare, my ASC is Virgo, so i've basically been this way all recent years. Like nothing goes well, no , for sure, it does, if i try hard. But there are always these thoughts that i can do better, blablabla, what am i, how could that happen to me, why i'm being so indecisive (hello, Libra)... It's hard to explain. It was sitting on my Sun, when it went really bad, i had a depression, problems in university, problems in relationship, i didn't want anything, just stare somewhere.. it's getting MUCH better now.

When it moved through the 1st house it was easier, so good for you. But it's only my opinion.

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posted July 25, 2012 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Rossi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
Ready for the world is how I feel.

The Saturn Return asks us to find the courage to head in the right direction in our life, the path that we were intended to take when we were born. It’s a wake up call. It’s a time to consider your unique individual needs, the contribution you want to make to the world, the resources that are important to you, inner and outer, and who will go with you on your journey. It is said that making the right authentic choices at 30 guarantees a more happy and fulfilled life and better health since it is stressful to live a lie. It is not uncommon for relationships and jobs to end during this time of life restructuring and reevaluation. On the other hand, many people also marry and take on big responsibilities at this time as well. Many major life milestones seem to happen around the ages of 29 and 30 and this is why astrologers believe the 30th birthday is a major rite of passage because it marks the true beginning of adulthood, self-evaluation, independence, ambition, and self-actualization.

The Saturn Return in Scorpio

“If you were born with Saturn in Scorpio, the issues during your Saturn Return will be about sexuality, assets, death and loss, trust and betrayal, personal magnetism, manipulation, revenge, extortion, seduction, self mastery and personal power.”
http://www.scorpioseason.com/2011/01/the-saturn-return/


And thus you bring a great deal of insight here. Although I've got much more to learn with chart interpretation, naturally I can say the Libra saturn transiting 11H & 12H was like walking out in public in the nude. I felt vulnerable, out of place and an overwhelming need to isolate myself and pick at everything within. Everything "hard" about my persona became very much softened. I confidently dismissed dead weight relationships; yet still it felt weird to do so. Absolutely the house of endings. So I am feeling that "rebirth" already with the transit hitting my rising. You make perfect sense with the coming into your own between 29-30; that's applicable here. Thank you!

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posted July 25, 2012 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Rossi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aeline:
I'm soo looking forward for it to move out of my Libra Sun.

It was sitting on my Sun, when it went really bad, i had a depression, problems in university, problems in relationship, i didn't want anything, just stare somewhere.. it's getting MUCH better now.

When it moved through the 1st house it was easier, so good for you. But it's only my opinion.


Eek! I've came across a few who've explained almost the very same. That gut punch when it hits your Asc can feel like someone with their foot on your chest. Did you try to find a way to channel that depression? Or were efforts to work around it just NOT feasible at all? What was it like once things simmered down as it transited your first house? I would've lost my mind with all that Libran indecision. Seems like a life overload of "keeping it all together"...

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posted July 25, 2012 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Plutonian_Rossi! Welcome to LL

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posted July 25, 2012 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm dreading it. 0nce Saturn leaves libra, I'm dead meat. I've 9 planets in the 4 signs that follow. N0 peace for years. My Jupiter, Sun/M0on midpoint, Mc and pluto are in scorpio.
My ascendant's at 1 aqua. Fingers crossed.

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posted July 25, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not hyped for Saturn to enter Scorpio...
but I am hyped for Saturn to stop opposing my Sun, With Mars soon to join it! Ugh and to get in the later degrees of Libra!

I am learning more lessons here.
I am happy with guy I am with, but he hates labels such as "girlfriend" "dating" "seeing each other" even "married" wtf!
Usually when a guy is like this, effing run. But he treats me with respect like no one ever has before. He was explaining when we first hung out, he feels like the labels ruin it. It hasn't even been a year...I can kind of see what he is saying, I believe rushing and forcing things ruin it...but time will tell if he ever will come around. So I choose to be patient and I trust him. I'm not in a rush either for labels...though I don't know how to explain what is going to people sometimes.
But if he wanted tabs on me and none on him then I would not bother.

It's confusing, a few days ago he called me his girlfriend when he was on the phone with his friend. !

And apparently he has been talking about how I have been visiting him to his Marine co workers. And so for some reason that triggers one of his female higher ups to ask him out. Did I mentions she knows about me!? And apparently this chick is a bit older, has a kid, and is engaged.
What's wrong with her head!? Why are some people like that? Because they are trash? Because they are an idiot? Self esteem issues? Basket case? They a h0e?!! All of the above?
But he did the right thing thing and he told me that he would rather be with his girlfriend.(me)

But anyways when he told me this news, it caught me off guard a little, cause it was shortly after we had sex.
Part of me couldn't help but feel like he wants me to be jealous of him. So I got a tad defensive and vengeful (scorpio moon here) and was kind of like well the custodian at the school I work at hits on me. (no this is not some rugid joe dirt mullet janitor...he is a handsome black guy. That looks very good for his age and he doesn't have to wear one of those janitor jump suits either)
Then my guy goes on to say something like well this is different. And that's I say he actually looks pretty young for his age.

Other then that I really kept myself in check, from this news he was telling me. But it was obvious. That nuclear explosions where going on deep inside of my brain...with the red alert buildings and voooomp!voooomp!voooomp! danger noises. And people evacuating the building.

And so then he says "I don't know why I even brought that up." Then I felt kind of bad. He was just telling me cause now he has to deal with this every single day. (and in my case I can easily blow off the custodian, plus I have the summer off. haha)

But for me being me, I took it pretty maturely.

Plus my last relationship, the ex would do things like this to me. To make me jealous of him, so he could feel like an attractive person. Sometimes he would obnoxiously flirt with a girl, and then try to tell me that that girl was flirting with him! hahahahahaa!!! wtf I would even call him out like "no, it really just looked like you where the only one flirting" Like he would always want to assume that. And he is a total loser, you guys have no idea.

I need to learn how to not let that baggage affect my new relationship.

Sorry if I vent to much, this whole calling me girlfriend sometimes but not liking labels, and stupid people that distastefully hit on my guy. Knowing he is seeing me...makes me want to hit them in the head with a shovel, until their brain works properly and maybe turn on the self respect and moral part of their brain that is obviously broken. (hey I never said I was evolved eagle scorp moon) Has all happened in the last couple days. But anyways I understand being attracted to someone who is taken. But come on have some respect for yourself and others! Sorry I seriously can't stand people like that.

Think I'm just going though some of Saturn's final lessons here.

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Planet Queen
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posted July 25, 2012 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh can't wait for it to square my Sun and conjunct my Pluto -Not!

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posted July 25, 2012 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by depth:
I'm dreading it. 0nce Saturn leaves libra, I'm dead meat. I've 9 planets in the 4 signs that follow. N0 peace for years. My Jupiter, Sun/M0on midpoint, Mc and pluto are in scorpio.
My ascendant's at 1 aqua. Fingers crossed.

On a light note, it means Saturn will be mostly conjuncting (better that than squaring,opposing or quincunxing), or sextiling (better that than conjuncting, squaring, opposing and quincunxing) those planets.

I had 10 planets in the last 3 signs Saturn was travelling in. And yes, it was rough, Overall, conjunctions were nice because they made me get more grounded. Except for that ongoing conjunction to Neptune. So far, this has been the Coup de Grace.

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 25, 2012 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh, there's only one thing that comes to mind: God help me!


Scorpio stellium, get ready for a big challenge!
Oh I'm gonna luv it. I can feel it! *ahem*

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posted July 25, 2012 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in Scorpio in the 7th. Should be interesting. I've been married for along time and have a solid marriage. Bob Marks said the only time a Saturn in the 7th can survive a return without a divorce is if they married a Capricorn type. He is. Things are good, so we'll see.

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Plutonian_Rossi
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posted July 25, 2012 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Rossi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello Plutonian_Rossi! Welcome to LL

Thank you so much for the welcome!

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posted July 25, 2012 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Welcome, again!

Saturn will be transiting my fourth house...it actually looks fun (?) based on this reading: http://www.cafeastrology.com/saturntransitinghouses.html

It will square Mercury, but I have Saturn opposing Mercury natally so I'm used to the sludge brain.

I'm more antsy about Pluto creeping up on my Cap sun in the 6H, and Uranus squaring it.

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posted July 25, 2012 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ready for the world is how I feel.

The Saturn Return asks us to find the courage to head in the right direction in our life, the path that we were intended to take when we were born. It’s a wake up call. It’s a time to consider your unique individual needs, the contribution you want to make to the world, the resources that are important to you, inner and outer, and who will go with you on your journey. It is said that making the right authentic choices at 30 guarantees a more happy and fulfilled life and better health since it is stressful to live a lie. It is not uncommon for relationships and jobs to end during this time of life restructuring and reevaluation. On the other hand, many people also marry and take on big responsibilities at this time as well. Many major life milestones seem to happen around the ages of 29 and 30 and this is why astrologers believe the 30th birthday is a major rite of passage because it marks the true beginning of adulthood, self-evaluation, independence, ambition, and self-actualization.

The Saturn Return in Scorpio

“If you were born with Saturn in Scorpio, the issues during your Saturn Return will be about sexuality, assets, death and loss, trust and betrayal, personal magnetism, manipulation, revenge, extortion, seduction, self mastery and personal power.” http://www.scorpioseason.com/2011/01/the-saturn-return/


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And thus you bring a great deal of insight here. Although I've got much more to learn with chart interpretation, naturally I can say the Libra saturn transiting 11H & 12H was like walking out in public in the nude. I felt vulnerable, out of place and an overwhelming need to isolate myself and pick at everything within. Everything "hard" about my persona became very much softened. I confidently dismissed dead weight relationships; yet still it felt weird to do so. Absolutely the house of endings. So I am feeling that "rebirth" already with the transit hitting my rising. You make perfect sense with the coming into your own between 29-30; that's applicable here. Thank you!

Totally agreed with both of you. My Saturn is at 0'Scorpio and is on the cusp of my 12th conjuncting my Pluto in the 11th, so I've already been feeling this one for a bit. The retro of Saturn has allowed me to refocus myself on looking for a new job and a new relationship (along with the unexpected surprise of looking for a new car and a new place to live). So it is just rebirth for me all around. I'm actually at the point where I'm looking forward to it.

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posted July 26, 2012 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for milly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi plutonian_rossi, I am happy Saturn is leaving Libra, just to take a rest :-) my Sun, Moon and Mercury are in Geminis, so that helped!! A lot. Since my Saturn is in Cancer and Mars/Jupiter in Aries... More or less same degrees, I had lot of challenges. I also lived pluto square pluto at the same time. I am still shaky and restless... Hihihi... Well you all know geminis are also dealing with eclpses right now. What I can say, I have to change many things I was sure of in my life but I feel more genuine now, freer, more mature... Now I understan better the cliche: life is a journey!!! Sometimes bumpy... The experience is very valuable... Very valuable.

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posted July 26, 2012 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When does it hit 0 Scorpio guys? September?

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posted July 26, 2012 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When does it hit 0 Scorpio guys? September?

It goes into Scorpio October 5th!

I am actually extremely excited for Saturn to move into Scorpio

It will be leaving my 4th house soon (finally!)and it's been a brutal transit for me because I had a lot of unresolved family issues to deal with and I also ended up right back in my home state which I had been trying to run away from lol. But I'm moving pretty soon which is nerve racking but also very exciting.

Before Saturn decided to go retrograde it was in my 5th house for a little bit and I actually felt great during that time. I started noticing art (in daily life) a lot more and got really motivated to start writing freelance articles and even to take up playing my viola again lol. I had a new interest in painting, photography, etc.

Saturn in Scorpio will be squaring my Venus in Aqua and conjuncting Scorpio, which I've heard might be pretty difficult, but it can't be any worse than saturn in libra squaring my Uranus, neptune, saturn, sun and nodes! so I'm not that worried lol

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posted July 26, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad has Scorpio rising... Aquarius sun, Capricorn moon. I just found out a few days ago he's been cheating on my mom with the same woman while commuting back and forth (due to his job) for the past four years. Maybe the Scorpio transit has to do with why it's coming to light now?

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posted July 26, 2012 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
It goes into Scorpio October 5th!

ok i will relax until then!

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posted July 27, 2012 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously need to vent more, I feel very tested.
Today is my last day visiting the guy. The last two weeks we haven't got out much. And it's killing me, yes at times I can be an introverted home body. I'm stuck at his apartment while he is on duty. Not much to do around here,and I don't have my car.

Like even the weekend he doesn't have the energy to do much. We had a plan to go to the river a few weekends ago. I was really looking forward to it. Its pretty effing close to his place too. Thinking my cooped up-ness would be rewarded, during his work week.

Then that fuqing day comes...it doesn't happen. How can he do this to me? Can't he suck it the f()ck up for me?! I was livid, numb, disgusted, resentful.
And since he said he was tired he didn't get any. (though I bet 50 bucks he still had energy for that.)

It seems like work can make people not wanna go out from being so drained, or they snap and go stir crazy and shake things up around town. I've experienced both myself. But can't he just try for me!?

He knew I was upset..."are you okay?" "yeah" "are you sure" "yeah" "are you sure" "YES" he apologized for not having energy. In our almost half a year of seeing each other we have not got in a fight. And I'm afraid to.

The only outings we have been on the past two weeks where walmart, the gas station, and two restaurants. That does not cut it for me!!! Bottling this sh!t up is not solving the problem. I can't really vent to anyone either, cause everyone I know works during the day...I've tried venting to my mom but her phone is a piece of **** and cuts in and out when I talk to her.

I want to tell him how I feel, but I have Scorpio Moon conjunct pluto. And when I'm ****** off it's hard to choose my words wisely to get my point across. I don't want to verbally tear him apart, and start a fight especially on the last day here. But we will see, when he apologizes I just become very numb and just say one word like "okay" "yeah" or NOTHING!
(I also have Moon square Mars natal.)

I've had moments of depression from being so cooped up here. My fuquing moods swings yesterday omg. I finally cried last night. Thank God...I could let those feelings out somehow. The emotions of going home and not seeing him for a while and also being mad at him, and caring about him so much. (sh!t I just started to cry)

I hate leaving on this note...but if we where having more fun I would not look forward to going home.

I have quite a few neggo transits going on right now.
like I said Saturn Oppose Sun one degree away
Mars loosely opposing My Sun too
Uranus square Uranus
Mars Square Jupiter
Jupiter square Venus
Mercury Square Mercury

okay a few is kind of an understatement, but yes I am feeling this clash of transits. I have more neggo transits than postive going on right now.


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posted July 27, 2012 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but anyways, when it enters Scorpio it will eventually oppose my chart ruler Mercury in Taurus...that does not sound fun...and during the middle sqaure my Leo IC and near the end it will conjunct my moon and Pluto

I donno if Saturn conjunctions are positive...I think they are depressing am I right?

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posted July 27, 2012 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Totally looking forward to t.Saturn to get going and out of Libra. The Old Man has been stuck in my 6th house in what seems like forever now. Hoping once it stops opposing my n.Sun some health issues will finally get resolved. Plus, last time t.Saturn went through my 7th house, it really wasn't half bad at all. Looking forward to getting clarity about which relationships to keep, and which ones to ditch. Hoping it'll help me gain some maturity with personal relationships, even though it might be painful in there, too.

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posted July 27, 2012 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a little nervous about Saturn being on my Venus, and then later passing onto Uranus. Already going through heartaches with my spouse, and he will be having his Saturn return at the same time as the transit conjuncts my Venus.

Having said that, I am relieved Saturn will be leaving Libra, as the conjunction to my Pluto and MC was very stressful. Perhaps with Saturn leaving my 10th house, my career will finally move on to the next level.

I agree that the Saturn return does bring major changes. During that time in my life a few years ago, I married my spouse, purchased a home, started working in my field, and had a new child. Lol very big changes, very transformative and life changing indeed.

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posted July 27, 2012 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
My dad has Scorpio rising... Aquarius sun, Capricorn moon. I just found out a few days ago he's been cheating on my mom with the same woman while commuting back and forth (due to his job) for the past four years. Maybe the Scorpio transit has to do with why it's coming to light now?

Sorry to hear that. In which degree is your dad Scorpio rising?
Yes, Saturn making a conjunction to the Ascendant could herald chicken coming home to roost.

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