posted July 26, 2012 07:52 PM            

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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage." - Lao Tzu

posted July 26, 2012 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Long story cut short... I am completely disinterested on a romantic level. He is interested to the point where I can't do anything to make him stop. He is extremely pushy.
I have tried to be nice and reasonable. I am at my wits end.
He is a good person - I do not want to hurt him.. but this pushiness makes me want to just *slap* him - quite frankly.
His friend and I are kind of 'together' (I'm talking about Scorpio guy - if you've read my previous threads).
He has been so rude - even when Scorpio guy was there.. and blatantly flirting and proposing as a joke.
WHO does that??? When he knows I'm with Scorpio.
I am sooooooo beyond annoyed with him.
And he constantly acts like I owe him something because he keeps throwing money my way and he won't take no for an answer. I have told him NOT TO buy me anything. He does not understand the word no.

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One thing I've become aware of is that the key to a planet's energy is the planet within. In your case, with Mars, the key is Venus. In his case, the key to Jupiter is Mars, so he may see you as the essential ingredient to living his life to the fullest, as bringing it out in himself.

What I would suggest, since Venus is the key to Mars and Venus is in your 11th house, that you simply want to be friends and nothing more. Now, your Venus conjuncts his MC from the 9th house side, so he may think you idealize and love him. I would say, make sure he knows there are firmly established boundaries between you and he. The problem is, referring back to planets within being the key to outer planets, his Mars (key to his Jupiter) and his Venus (key to his Mars) are conjunct in his 7th house (your 7th and 8th), so this could further explain his relentless pursuit of you. However, with your Venus sextiling his Jupiter, maybe that can convince him that the two of you need to keep it at a friendship level.

posted July 26, 2012 08:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
(...)and blatantly flirting and proposing as a joke.
WHO does that??? When he knows I'm with Scorpio.
I am sooooooo beyond annoyed with him.[/B]

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posted July 27, 2012 03:59 AM            

He'll probably never see you as just a "friend", and chances are, he'll try and try to "get you". Mars is very active! Plus he's got Saturn there, giving him the perseverance. *But* he may not try for too long, because eventually Mars (even combined with Saturn, I believe) gets frustrated and moves on.

posted July 27, 2012 04:27 AM            

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Originally posted by luisbunuel:

I have a question which I hope you mid answering - do you believe that when Venus and Pluto in the synastry chart are tightly conjunct (by a degree or less) it's just a generational thing and does not have much of an effect?

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If I may chime in, it does have an effect.
But it may not be as important if the Pluto person's Pluto is not a relationship planet and if the Venus person's Venus is not a relationship planet. For example, if the Pluto person has Scorpio on the ASC or on the DSC, that makes their Pluto strong. And if it rules their 5th or 8th, it will be a strong element in their attractions/relationships.
Same goes for Venus: if the Venus person has Taurus or Libra on the ASC/DSC axis or if they're on the 5th or 8th house cusp, their Venus will be "important" when it comes to relationships. So the effects in synastry will be stronger.

Hope this made sense.

posted July 27, 2012 06:00 AM            

My Venus (in Virgo, 6th house, not that prominent) is conjunct several people's Plutos (also in Virgo), all born at the very of the 1950s.

So many men! So much choice!

posted July 27, 2012 10:58 AM            

There's a MYSTICAL TRIANGLE; his Chiron is making a trine to your Jupiter and an quincunx to your Saturn all within the allowable MAGI-orb. The quincunx here is the famous HEARTBREAK clash which is the worst you can have with anyone and mainly in this case because it's part of significant geometry. Unfortunately I can't see the orb but possibly also your SUN(trine to your Saturn) is making another M.T. with this Chiron in which even TWO crazy clashes (again: the heartbreak clash involved). So that would actually make 2 mystical triangles *working-together* in which even the "heartbreak" forms the base! AIIII!!

Ok, the fact is "CHIRON" (from magi perspective) feels WAY MORE than the other person does and for him this has to feel like a moth to a flame (we may not forget: chiron/jupiter cinderella linkage in the geometry!) .. I think at first there was a strong attraction between the both of you? Well that's often the case when there's such a meaningfull RSL (romantic super linkage) between both. Saturn would normally have a lot of power over the other person (I don't know if you can relate to that) and is in most cases also the 'heartbreaker'.
From a MAGI-perspective this would NOT work *romantically* with a very high chance for it to end in "heartbreak" for the Chiron-person.

posted July 27, 2012 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by luisbunuel:
Hi 12th houser - I liked your explanation above.

I have a question which I hope you don't mind answering - do you believe that when Venus and Pluto in the synastry chart are tightly conjunct (by a degree or less) it's just a generational thing and does not have much of an effect?

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posted July 28, 2012 06:18 AM            

12houser - I tried to reason with him. I explained I am not interested romantically. He said he understood.
THAT night he started txt-ing me that he wants to walk my dog... WTH????? Then he called me drunk saying he really wants to see me - as "friends" only.
This was at 10 pm. He keeps inviting himself over my place.
He is so damn rude.

posted July 28, 2012 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I'm speechless.

12houser - I tried to reason with him. I explained I am not interested romantically. He said he understood.
THAT night he started txt-ing me that he wants to walk my dog... WTH????? Then he called me drunk saying he really wants to see me - as "friends" only.
This was at 10 pm. He keeps inviting himself over my place.

He is so damn rude.

Redscorp - I want to tell Scorpio. He does not know the whole story.. But I am actually scared that he'll react in a way that is *worse* than expected.. I mean I don't want things to escalate and get worse.

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