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Lava Flower
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posted August 03, 2012 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a thread on sexual aspects and mutual reception that prompted me to post synastry charts to see if you guys can tell who was most attracted to whom and why you think that is

This chart is of me and my now male best friend, but at one time, one of us wanted a relationship with the other but attraction wasn't exactly mutual. Who would you think wanted the more than friend type of relationship?

The initial attraction was mutual with this following synastry, but one of us didn't take the other seriously and it wasn't after the other pursued relentlessly till a relationship of that type was even considered. Based on synastry, who do you think wanted the relationship first?

Everyone is welcome to post synastry charts of course

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posted August 03, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First synastry : the Piscesian.

Second synastry : the Aqua sun person.

and oh am not an expert , just what I think.

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posted August 04, 2012 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
First synastry : the Piscesian.

Second synastry : the Aqua sun person.

and oh am not an expert , just what I think.


That's really interesting may I ask how you came to your conclusion? Was it from analyzing the charts or was it through a more intuitive approach?

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posted August 04, 2012 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpy_oh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what house system did you use?

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Lava Flower
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posted August 04, 2012 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use the Whole Sign house system, its available on astro.com

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posted August 04, 2012 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'll go for the classics and say the Taurus person, w. Cancer Moon - is the one wanting a relationship in general (with anyone). They might even be a serial monogamist... not wanting to be single for a minute. Cancer Moon is particularly clingy. Taurus Sun likes tradition. Both signs are keen on the kind of love you see in Disney cartoons - and very willing to be committed.

The Pisces and the Aquarius .. They could be highly sexed (one has Aries Mars - the other has Mars opp Pluto) ... but I don't see a desire for a serious relationship (again - with *anyone* in general... not just with this Taurus person.)
They could have the best synastry w. someone - and they still wouldn't go there.. because judging by their natal charts, they are interested in things OTHER than interpersonal rels - such as travel, politics, humanitarian issues etc).

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posted August 04, 2012 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st chart: Pisces wanted Taurus
2nd chart: Taurus wanted Aqua

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posted August 04, 2012 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you post these with Placidus system?

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posted August 04, 2012 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Well I'll go for the classics and say the Taurus person, w. Cancer Moon - is the one wanting a relationship in general (with anyone). They might even be a serial monogamist... not wanting to be single for a minute. Cancer Moon is particularly clingy. Taurus Sun likes tradition. Both signs are keen on the kind of love you see in Disney cartoons - and very willing to be committed.

The Pisces and the Aquarius .. They could be highly sexed (one has Aries Mars - the other has Mars opp Pluto) ... but I don't see a desire for a serious relationship (again - with *anyone* in general... not just with this Taurus person.)
They could have the best synastry w. someone - and they still wouldn't go there.. because judging by their natal charts, they are interested in things OTHER than interpersonal rels - such as travel, politics, humanitarian issues etc).


Thank you for the reply's everyone!!! Unless I give it away with what im about to post, I will disclose the answer tomorrow

I'm the Taurus, and I'm not at all like that. I am very independent and picky about relationships, I want the right relationship and anything less is a waste of my time. I hardly get lonely with all the interests I have. And sadly, nether of the guys share my passion for humanitarian concerns. They are both friendly and kind, and the Pisces especially enjoys sharing his resources with people close to him, but that's about it. Aqua's humanitarianism pretty much only extends to smoking his friends out LOL

The Pisces has his moon in the 7th, and the Aqua has the ruler of his 7th in his 1st. Both would rather be in an unhappy relationship instead of being alone. Generally though, they both seem to strive for "serious" relationships. You were right though, both are rather "sexed", the Aqua cheated on most of his girl friends, the Pisces has been cheated on and he still stayed with the girl.

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posted August 04, 2012 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In both cases I would have to say the Taurus sun, because the NN is conjunct the other persons planets. In my experience, this is a sign of unrequited love (especially if Venus is the planet). Maybe the NN person feels that it's crucial to learn something from the planet person, I still don't know how it works.
Let us know who was right

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posted August 05, 2012 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces want taurus
Aqua want taurus

saturn in the chart show that.

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posted August 05, 2012 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Could you post these with Placidus system?

Certainly and I would love to hear your thoughts on these charts as well. I would like to say one thing though, I feel really strongly about Whole Signs

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posted August 05, 2012 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those of you who guessed that I wasn't as strongly into them as they were me, were right. At first glance though, they trigger my relationship houses, so I was a little surprised.

With the Pisces, we even have an exact NN opposite Vertex and conjunct his sun-moon opposition, making a lunar eclipse with my NN. I love his mind, but that's about it.

The Aqua grew on me. Our connection feels fated and we have been involved for a while now, but it took me a long time to open myself up instead of going through the motions with him. I don't know what it is, maybe the ruler of his 7th in my 7th, my sun square his ASC or his moon in my 8th, but he lets me so deep into his heart.

I have the love stellium with both men in the composite. The one with the Aqua is badly aspected but every planet in the composite is either conjunct his or my placements.

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posted August 06, 2012 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What stroke me is the venus-chiron conjunction in all the charts. I had this to times with a man - my chiron conjunct his venus. I fell madly in love but it was nothing more than friendship from his side.
another heartbreak-aspect for me is my venus conjunct someone's northnode - heartbroken everytime. these wonderful karmic aspects are very difficult to live happily!
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posted August 06, 2012 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st synastry:

Your 5th house ruler Mars squares his Pluto.
While under certain circumstances that can be "hot", I have come to the conclusion, that to really play out this way the generational aspects have to be connected to or backed up by links to personal planets; this is not the case here.
Since you have that Mars-Pluto-square natally, it might simply mean that Pluto came from the outside to you, and you may have perceived him as the one who was pursuing you, while you weren´t interested.
Had there be an aspect of your Mars to one of his personal planets this might have played out differently though, and might have resulted in a very passionate attraction.

Your 7th house rulers square his Jupiter, which could potentially be stimulating, but not romantic. It often plays on a more mental plane.
Of course using traditional rulers his Jupiter would rule his ASC, but still with the square, there might be too much friction here. He might ultimately not be what you want.

Since the results of 5th and 7th house rulers were less than promising, I save myself the effort to check the 8th house.


from his perspective:

his 5th house ruler Moon becomes the "target-point" of a Thor`s Hammer, with your Mars-Jupiter-square being the basis and his 5th house ruler Moon being sesisquare your Jupiter and Mars.
your sexual nature would have gotten his attention pretty strongly. Even though semisquares and sesisquares are minor aspects, in tight orb and especially within a configuration, they do make themselves felt.

It is important,t oo, that Mars is a personal planet, so he is reacting to a very individual energy you radiate.
Of course these are still challenging aspects, and after the initial sparks, the differences and challenges would have become obvious to him as well.
But squares, oppositions as well as semisquares and sesisquares can really get one`s romantic/ erotic motor going, especially if they are being created between Yin and Yang planets, especially the personal ones. (in this case his Moon-your Mars)

Squares between Yin aspects are often not such a good idead. They are not fighting big time,b ut often are too vulnearable to deal with the tension inherent in a square (which is why I don´t like Moon-Moon-squares or Venus-Venus-square, i can cope with Moon-Venus-square if I am Venus, because Venus rules my 5th house -a nd the 5th house has Yang-symbolism on a houselevel).

His DESC-ruler sextiles your Sun-Mercury-conjunction which might have give a slight inclination to think of you as relationship material, but I am really not sure how solid that would have been. The attraction seems to have been more on a romantic/ erotic level than striving for lasting commitment.

I can`t really see it here, but it could be that his 8th house ruler Mars is opposing your Pluto and semisquare your moon.
Do you have a Moon-pluto-trine natally?

Anyway, 2nd case


Your 5th house ruler conjunct his Sun and
square his Pluto and trine his Chiron; maybe the aspects to Plutoa nd Chiron made you hesitate a bit, but actually his Sun conjunct your 5th house ruler is a very clear sign that he is indeed your type and that there is a natural affinity and attraction.

But of course let us not forget that you overlay two natal very hot, potentially challenging configuration onto each other. Your mars-Pluto-square and his Sun-Pluto-square.
The Aquarius-Mars and Sun might sense the potential intensity and be a bit more careful here.


Your DESC conjunct his ASC and vice versa shows you are natural partners.
Interestingly your DESC-rulers are unaspected.
Did you not consider him serious relationship-material? Did you not believe there could be a committed relationship?
The ruler of the 8th house is also unaspected, which would emphasize that as well.


The ruler of your fourth house, Venus, is conjunct his Antivertex though, which might give a very fated feeling, though it might be more about him being drawn to you.


However the ruler of 4th house, Venus, is also trine his Sun, which indicates that over time the affinity and affection from you to him will grow.

his perspective:

Your Venus on his 5th house cusp is significant - he is drawn to your feminity.
This is very helpful as it shows a strong attraction from him to you, especially with his Vertex being opposite your Venus on his 5th house cusp, even without strong aspects to his 5th house ruler.


his DESC-house ruler is conjunct your Mars - where did we see that before?
Oh yes, Mars ruled your 5th house - so you have a conjunction between your 5th house and his 7th house - which is a bit similiar to Venus-Sun-conjunction, just that he might take it more seriously (7th house is the angular house of committed relationships).

Anyway so his DESC-ruler conjuncts your mars and trines your Venus - you are definitely his type for relationships.

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posted August 07, 2012 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen, yes, no sparks at all from my side on the first synastry. I had no idea his moon was aspected, but you're right, he was attracted to my sexuality :/ Hmm, that's good to know, I will watch my boundaries a little closer with him.

With the second synastry, it wasn't that I couldn't imagine myself with him, I could. He is my ideal, in almost every way. Besides his looks, the way he treats me is exactly the way I had always wanted to be treated, down to the specialness. I know im irreplaceable to him. He went through hell to be with me, sometimes I can't believe he still loves me. What initially made me not want to be with him is the sense that he is kinda needy with me, and I don't like to have that power over someones emotional well being. Years ago, when circumstances were against us, I was so frustrated and I wanted to end it, and as soon as I said that, he literately got sick and threw up. The other reason that I didn't want to be with him is because I knew he cheated on his girlfriends and he went from one relationship to another without much reflection in between. To me, that just screamed incompleteness, and I was looking for a mature relationship.

You were right though, my affection for him grew over time. I couldn't imagine my life without him. He is my pathway to God, everything that's happened in my life was to lead me to him.

That's my vertex opposite my Venus and conjunct his Saturn. His vertex makes a grand trine with my sun/mercury and Saturn/Uranus, though I don't really consider it all that important. The composite Sun/Venus falls on my and my daughters NN.

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posted August 08, 2012 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thefish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's pretty clear why Pisces doesn't work per se and Aquarius does.

Re: Pisces his juno and Venus fall into your 7th house coming from his 12th so he feels a subconscious compulsion toward partnership/marriage with you.

Your 11th house venus suggests that you need to be friends first for a relationship to grow. In this case we see 11th house venus conjunct his third house chiron meaning that your love will be both hurtful and healing for him in third house issues.

The problem is there so issues in terms of chemistry.

We do see his venus (his 7th) squaring your pluto (your 4th) which would suggest there's a challenge regarding partnership romance and 4th hosue issues such as home/security/etc

Your venus is only trine to his venus. So there's not much for you to be attached to in this relationship.

I do see obession for the Pices in that he has pluto opposite mars natally and his pluto squares your mars which could suggest possessiveness and/or violence.

There are no readily apparent sun moon connections and saturn is not connected to personal planets.

No glue with Pisces and there was attraction but of dark nature.

As for Aquarian guy the synastry is off the charts.

His venus falls in your fifth house and more important his venus is natally tightly conjunct uranus which falls into the love at first sight and given your uranian partnership need his uranus falling in the 5th house as well gives you a feeling of being in love with love with him.

On top of that his Aquarius sun falls in your seventh house

We also see conjunction of venus (your 11th, his 5th) and chiron (his 5th your 11th)

you will heal/wound his 5th house related issues and he heals/wounds your 11th house.

We also see saturn opposite of venus which povides heavy glue.

We also see vertex opposite venus

We also see ASC conjunct DSC/

Lots of binding factors.

The main concern is the venus opposite saturn in that while is provieds amassive bond it can really wear down a realtiosnhip.

In this case your 5th house issues whether it be romance or children will cause him to react like wet blanket and it will seem in direct contradiction to his wild and erractic romantic beahvior.

His venus suggests he attracts sag women his 7th house suggests his attraction to Leos and juno suggests Capricornean like qualities is what he'll end up with in partner.

Your mars suggests that you attract aquarians your DSC suggest an attraction to Aquarian partners your Juno suggests you'll end up with a partner with Taurean traits.

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