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Topic: venus opposition saturn
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curiouswoman Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: on earth Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 02:38 AM
Hey thank you for reminding me of this but say the person is not taken but still acts uninterseted yet you know deep inside they want you. Why do they act like that?IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 18, 2012 04:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by curiouswoman: Hey thank you for reminding me of this but say the person is not taken but still acts uninterseted yet you know deep inside they want you. Why do they act like that?
Does the conjunction works the same way as the opposition? Because this guy acts THE SAME WAY with me. He acts as if he is totally uninterested but when he sees am slowly detaching myself emotionally from him he goes to extreme lengths just to make me jealous.What's up with these people??? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10618 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 06:07 AM
They crave affection but feel uncomfortable with it too (I have Sun, Mercury and Venus square Saturn. Saturn in the 7H and the other three in 11H) and thus confine themselves. But it doesn't mean they don't care about you. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 18, 2012 06:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: They crave affection but feel uncomfortable with it too (I have Sun, Mercury and Venus square Saturn. Saturn in the 7H and the other three in 11H) and thus confine themselves. But it doesn't mean they don't care about you.
I can relate to the placements. I have venus, mercury, sun and saturn in 7th H. All conjunctions though. I want a secure reliable long lasting relationship but am ready to do all the work necessary to achieve that but when someone keeps saying they are not interested but acts differently, it makes me feel like am an idiot. I've noticed that he says things he doesn't mean and this is more confusing because he is a capricorn, and capricorns are well known for saying what they mean. I, however have a distinct feeling he is like that ONLY to me. But that's cool, am the one ignoring him now, so we shall see how this works out for him. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10618 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 10:25 AM
Hmmm...My advice won't work completely just because I don't know either of you but Capricorn are also known for testing people. Don't play the game back, just be consistent in your actions and the confusion should go away. Think like a Capricorn and keep your eye on the prize. His fin icky behavior is irrelevant if you want him. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 18, 2012 10:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Hmmm...My advice won't work completely just because I don't know either of you but Capricorn are also known for testing people. Don't play the game back, just be consistent in your actions and the confusion should go away. Think like a Capricorn and keep your eye on the prize. His fin icky behavior is irrelevant if you want him.
I thought so too, ( about not playing the game back). I don't like mind games and he is full of it. But yeah, I do want him  IP: Logged |
curiouswoman Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: on earth Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 12:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: Does the conjunction works the same way as the opposition? Because this guy acts THE SAME WAY with me. He acts as if he is totally uninterested but when he sees am slowly detaching myself emotionally from him he goes to extreme lengths just to make me jealous.What's up with these people???
I feel as if they actually resent you for making them feel loved. it's so odd!
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hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10618 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 12:48 PM
That, or they don't believe you're sincere because Venus in hard with Saturn can present esteem issues.IP: Logged |
curiouswoman Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: on earth Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 12:50 PM
so basically if you ignore them, they'll come chasing! we shall see!IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 18, 2012 12:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: That, or they don't believe you're sincere because Venus in hard with Saturn can present esteem issues.
I believe so too. Because they make you go through lengthy complicated tests to which they only have the correct answers.And I also think they resent you for making them feel love again IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10618 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 01:20 PM
DP.  IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10618 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 01:20 PM
But at least you see it isn't personal right? They struggle between loving and restricting themselves. They can be pessimistic hence they don't like enjoying something they're unsure will last forever. I'm no expert on it or anything though.IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 18, 2012 01:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: But at least you see it isn't personal right? They struggle between loving and restricting themselves. They can be pessimistic hence they don't like enjoying something they're unsure will last forever. I'm no expert on it or anything though.
yeahhhh i know. But I think they are self centered.self centered with regards to THEIR feelings, THEIR apprehensions,THEIR expectations. I think if they start thinking how the other person might be feeling their attitude would be different.. IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 1715 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 18, 2012 03:56 PM
I have Venus square Saturn, though the degree isn't that tight (7-8 degrees) and I'm not self centered at all. I think it depends on the person, not the specific aspect itself. Just like some Scorpio moons are nuts, while others don't impulsively say hurtful things just as payback- it's all about self awareness and maturity.I've had two exes with Scorpio moons, they had the same asc (at basically the same degree) anddd both had a Gemini placement, but boy...They were night and day. The first had a myriad of bad qualities, the second was amazing in every way. The second guy was a thousand miles more emotionally mature and considerate than the first. So at the end of the day aspects show potential, but you choose how you want to live your life. Venus hard aspect Saturn points to feelings of inadequacy and being skeptical when somebody shows them love, they feel a need to give give give, and subconsciously feels like they don't deserve love. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10618 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 06:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: I have Venus square Saturn, though the degree isn't that tight (7-8 degrees) and I'm not self centered at all. I Venus hard aspect Saturn points to feelings of inadequacy and being skeptical when somebody shows them love, they feel a need to give give give, and subconsciously feels like they don't deserve love.
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8ofHearts Knowflake Posts: 85 From: CA Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 16, 2015 05:33 PM
I have been on both sides of Venus/Saturn in synastry. My Saturn/South node exactly conjunct his Venus all squaring my Sun/ASC/PLUTO & opposite his Moon. His Moon conj my North Node. Yep, off & on and karmic & tumultuous in every way. I didn't know about Saturn & nodal aspects then - but it made so much sense in retrospect. Felt like I practically had to gnaw my arm off to get out. I'm sure he felt the same way and we both ended up bitter to have wasted so much time. (11 years, with lots of breaks.) I was always the "unloving, cool & more discriminating one", super attracted to him physically but something always made me question him as relationship material but ironically it ended up outlasting some relationships I'd consider to have been more "serious." I felt he really overdid it emotionally which was a turnoff - in some aspects, his reactions really freaked me out - they seemed so inappropriate, immature and impulsive. I struggled trusting him.Probably with good reason, but also, a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Natally I have a Sun Pluto/Saturn square, Saturn sextile Mars & a yod with Saturn inconjunct Jupiter & Neptune (basically some Saturn influence with all the "male planets) but my moon/venus are conjunct and I'm usually considered extremely friendly & affectionate. We had a sparky and fun relationship however, Saturn did make me cooler & more parental towards him. I would agree with the time aspect others mentioned. Over time, it flipped. He got over it and whether I showed it or not, I was probably more hurt by the actual ending. (Probably b/c in some way, with all the over the top love expressions, you feel like they'll always be there.) Anyone's Saturn on MY Venus has been a pretty big age gap with me. (11 years younger or 18+ years older.) In that case with the older person, I didn't stick around long enough to find out but my guess is he would have become a bit controlling toward me. In the case of the younger guy, his Saturn was on my moon/Venus. He liked me and reached out to me in a kind of formal way (very cute) but when I responded, he got super overwhelmed & disappeared. Found out later, his Venus was bang on my sun, square my Saturn, but he'd gotten a new job & relocated right after that. Timing OFF... The one I run like the plague from is Venus saturn square showing up anywhere. Synastry or composite. It's one of the first things I check for. B/c I have Sun square Saturn, anyone's Venus on my Sun is always square my Saturn. It's always disappointing. There will always be some obstacle, or alienation of affection but it is particularly bad b/c of it's on/off quality seems to promise something but in my experience, just impossible to resolve. I think it's the worst b/c of the time factor wasted when usually, you would just leave. My parents are 2 months apart in age and both have Saturn widely opposite my Venus. My Saturn is also widely opposite my Mother's Venus. I tend to get irritable in their presence after too long. They are always really non-reactive when I get excited about things which I find a total buzz kill. In composite, I have Venus opposite Saturn with my Mom. It's an enduring long term relationship in my life but I have had to accept some level of coolness that my sisters don't encounter with her. There is a distance. I do my own thing more and I often feel she doesn't "get me." As a kid, it led to a lot of pain & emotional scenes where she was baffled by my feelings of alienation. As adults we don't really like the same things. To get along, you definitely need a practical, mature approach. (Come to think of it, my Saturn squares my twin sister's Sun/Venus conjunctions & my Mom has told me more than once that they don't feel like I like them. There is an age gap here also (nearly 9 years.) They probably want to hang out more (their Saturn trines my Moon & sextiles my Mars) where I choose to do my own thing.) Again, we don't share social tendencies or hobbies but we do spend family time and share some friends. I have Venus/Saturn opposition in composite with a longtime female friend. Her moon is conjunct my North Node & opposite my Saturn. My Jupiter is conj her Sun, My Venus conj her Rising so there are a lot of positive offsets. We have a really cool relationship but it's been long distance. We never really live in the same place at the same time. I think serious relationships do require Saturn somewhere or they just won't stick. I'm not sure how though...I had a longterm relationship with tons of soft Saturn contacts - and it was smoother and easier and some happy Jupiter contacts so there were good feelings and friendship. It lasted 7 years but in truth, we did not end up marrying so...what do I know? lol
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