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awakemer
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posted August 13, 2012 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Layne_Staley

thoughts?

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posted August 13, 2012 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would really like a tranist chart too see how his planets were being aspected at the time of his death.

But from looking at his natal his moon is very afflicted along with his Pluto.
Moon opposite Pluto
Uranus conjunct Pluto
Venus conjunct Pluto

^^^^From what I've read those aspects can be very hard dealing with in the natal chart.

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posted August 14, 2012 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how do i do his transit??

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posted August 14, 2012 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
how do i do his transit??

http://www.astrotheme.com/transits_ephemerides_chart.php

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posted August 14, 2012 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be very hard to know when he actually died as they found his body and it was already dead for possibility days. Some sources say he was too depressed after his girlfriend passed away.

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posted August 14, 2012 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
seatle washington doesn't fit for some reason? what else can i choose?

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posted August 14, 2012 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did i do it right???http://www.astrotheme.com/transits_ephemerides_chart.php?_qf_s1_display=true

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posted August 14, 2012 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
It would be very hard to know when he actually died as they found his body and it was already dead for possibility days. Some sources say he was too depressed after his girlfriend passed away.


That's very sad looking at his natal I can tell he was very emotional.Well since it wont be no time of death for suicide you could always put in the day he was found dead.Atleast then we can have an idea what his transits was like.

Since "Seattle, Washington" isn't working try "Olympia, Washington"

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posted August 14, 2012 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah i got it.. they said estimated time of death april 5th.. he was found april 15th. i intuitively guessed around 3a.m. I could be wrong.

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posted August 14, 2012 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I Have a feeling that he didn't talk about his problems with anybody. i felt he kept things hidden. i felt he kept way too much inside.

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posted August 14, 2012 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
I Have a feeling that he didn't talk about his problems with anybody. i felt he kept things hidden. i felt he kept way too much inside.

I read once that people with hard natal Moon/Pluto aspects can be so deep and emotional it can scare people away.I have an ex with this aspect he was very deep.

Some of the Aspects around his time of death

Saturn square Venus orb +0°27'
Pluto square Moon orb +1°52'
Pluto square Pluto orb -2°03'
Uranus square Moon orb -1°38'
Saturn conjunction Sun orb +1°07'

Cringe looking at all those square going towards his personal planets.Lots of intense energy around the time of his death sad.

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posted August 14, 2012 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm how can being too deep can scare people away? being deep is a good thing! I knot that layne spent a lot of time playing video games and used that as escapism (his moon in pisces and 12th house emphasis)

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posted August 14, 2012 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
hmmm how can being too deep can scare people away? being deep is a good thing! I knot that layne spent a lot of time playing video games and used that as escapism (his moon in pisces and 12th house emphasis)

Well some people don't handle emotional depth very well.I actually like when people can open up.

from Cafe astrology Moon/Pluto

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Some people with these aspects are more in touch with their feelings than others, and as a result, enjoy tackling problems and learning about emotional complexities, both in themselves and in others. Others with these aspects are hell-bent on burying rather than digging up their deepest feelings. Either way, they are intense individuals!

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posted August 14, 2012 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how did you know i spent all yesterday listening to alice in chains?!? lol

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posted August 14, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me tooo. i totally have the hots for him too.. i hope his soul comes to my sleep tonight, lol.

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posted August 14, 2012 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love love LOVE Layne Staley and Alice in Chains...been listening to them a lot today, actually. And I went to Staley's apartment in which he died, a month ago..sat outside and blasted AIC in his honor <3

He didn't commit suicide. He overdosed on a heroin-cocaine mix. He was a hopeless drug addict. I've read a lot of stories about how after his ex-lover died, he just kind of spiraled downward...no one knew of his death for weeks. He was a recluse.

Awakemer, it's funny you say that about him going to you in your sleep lol..because in April I had a dream and he was in it, and I knew he was dead, but I was talking to him and playing with his dreadlocks (he had dreads at one time)..it was sooo bizarre. I had a dream about Pete Steele of Type O Negative, too, who died in 2010. Channeling the spirits of dead musicians FTW!

Anyway, if you pay attention to his lyrics, especially when he was in the band Mad Season, they message is quite clear and very chilling. He knew he was going to die because of his addiction. There was an interview with him shortly before his death, and he said he never wanted to die this way. Another interview from the mid 90s asked if he was happy, and I believe he answered something like "I was gettin there.." and then he got teary eyed. I think the death of Demri really did him in.

Such a tragedy. His voice is my all-time favorite; he really was grunge. Angsty, hurt, bitter, and very, very sick. RIP Layne, 10 years <3

Mad Season, Wake Up


Wake up young man, it's time to wake up
Your love affair has got to go
For 10 long years, for 10 long years
The leaves to rake up

Slow suicide's no way to go, oh
Blue, clouded grey
You're not a crack up
Dizzy and weakened by the haze

Moving onward
So an infection not a phase
Yeah, oh
The cracks and lines from where you gave up

They make an easy man to read, oh
For all the times you let them bleed you
For little peace from god you plead, and beg
For little peace from god you plead

Ah, yeah, ah, yeah, ah, yeah
Wake up young man, wake up, wake up
Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up
Oh, yeah

Wake up young man, it's time to wake up
Your love affair has got to go
For 10 long years, yeah
For 10 long years, the leaves to rake up

Slow suicide's no way to go, oh
Slow suicide's no way to go
Wake up, wake up, wake up

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posted August 14, 2012 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im listening to him right now . he was born on the same day as my sister . Apparently he had alot of father issues .
I LOVE HIM

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posted August 14, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I LOVE him!

I am a quite the appreciative lady of Alice In Chains and Layne.

As a matter of fact, one of my cats is named after Layne.

Suicide, wheather intentionally or not, he wanted out...you can see it in his eyes, you can feel it in his lyrics....


Suicide comes in many forms and fashions...

Overt or invert~

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posted August 14, 2012 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lovehate, i've often wondered if your username is inspired by their song, Love Hate Love...is it?


a lot of his lyrics mention his father, i believe his dad was also a junkie and had left his mom when Layne was very young..

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posted August 14, 2012 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell me how you would get behind the eyes of a Venus conj Pluto aspect.
I have to try to feel out aspects, as if I have them, myself. Only then can I work with them.

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posted August 14, 2012 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct Pluto can get pretty obsessive and even destructive...i have this conjunct by sign but not degree, but it's definitely felt.

Venus conj Pluto is also passionate about what he loves. it's easy to get caught up, tangled up, and drown in his own passions and desires..

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posted August 14, 2012 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Tell me how you would get behind the eyes of a Venus conj Pluto aspect.
I have to try to feel out aspects, as if I have them, myself. Only then can I work with them.


Please do. I would like to see what you conclude as you are very good at chart interpretation

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posted August 15, 2012 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His birthday is coming up in a few days. His mom and friends get together every year to have a small concert in his honour and to raise money to help people overcome their addictions.

Has anyone read Angry Chair? It's a good read, with the exception of poor writing, but also sad as he told the author about his demise shortly before his death. You do get the sense that he was a very sensitive soul, but tough as nails as well.

He died on the same day as Kurt Cobain, but eight years later on April 5, 2002. His body was not discovered for weeks when his family had the police go check on him. The thought of him being alone made me cry for days.

I used to not be able to get through the day without listening to Alice in Chains. Though no one can replace Layne and his amazing gift, the new band member, William DuVall, does sound uncannily like him. But I'd give anything for all of the original members to be around, still making music together.

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posted August 15, 2012 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BUMP anybody have interpretation of this transit and natal? i'm very curious.

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