posted August 15, 2012 05:21 AM            

EDIT: same here. I've experienced the venus-pluto DW w/ the love stellium four times and a lot of crazy double-whammy synastry with a lot of guys, including one guy i had sun conjunct jupiter, sun trine moon, venus conjunct mars, trine uranus, trine venus, moon conjunct moon, and DW moon-neptune and moon-pluto sextiles/trines with. I would drop all those guys in a second to be with this guy who I have a MEDIOCRE synastry and composite with. I can't explain it other than that these two aspects must be making it significant. I agree that it's telepathic between us too. Not intrusive, though. Must be because the aspect from moon to pluto is positive for me. I've been in love with him for a few years as well.

Astrology3d.com's description for the two aspects with him:

Moon Trine Neptune

Music, the arts, and/or inner, spiritual development will play a major part in your relationship. There is great empathy for one another, a soul connection. Often you will feel that you can communicate with one another without words. You may dream about each other a lot, or have psychic experiences (such as knowing where the other person is, how they are feeling, what is happening to them - even when they are far away) on a regular basis. As a couple, you can develop intuitive or spiritual gifts to a high degree, especially when you are "tuning in" to one another. You are drawn to large bodies to water, and if you share a home it would ideally be situated near water.
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Moon Sextile Pluto

posted August 15, 2012 06:24 PM            

Composite Moon tightly square composite pluto by 1 minute but not partile square

Composite moon inconjunct neptune.

Definitely feel the square and it makes things so crazy as the composite square is in the same signs as both our natal moons and plutos although neither of us have moon square pluto in synastry.

posted August 15, 2012 07:15 PM            

moon conjunct Pluto
and
moon sextile Neptune

posted August 15, 2012 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
I dont know if you consider moon conjunct pluto a positive aspect but I have in a composite

moon conjunct Pluto
and
moon sextile Neptune

Right now Idk what to say about it.. At the moment I dont have anything positive to say..

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posted August 15, 2012 09:01 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Thefish:
Have the opposite.

Composite Moon tightly square composite pluto by 1 minute but not partile square

Composite moon inconjunct neptune.

Definitely feel the square and it makes things so crazy as the composite square is in the same signs as both our natal moons and plutos although neither of us have moon square pluto in synastry.

I'm guessing inconjunct for comp moon and neptune manifests in emotional frustration in the identity between and other person (i.e undefined or poorly defined casual yet intense romantic realtionship)

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Yeah ive had the negative aspects together in composite and though it was intense it was horribly painful lol. This doesnt feel painful at all. Amazing just how happy and comfortable it is.

posted August 15, 2012 09:08 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Yes.. But its over between us...

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Are you at peace with the decision our do you find yourself still thinking of your ex?

posted August 15, 2012 09:19 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Yes.. But its over between us...

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Yeah i know sweetie.

posted August 16, 2012 04:40 AM            

A very close, though geographically distant, friendship of 9 years, in which we really talk about anything, has a Yod of Neptune in 9th sextile Pluto exact on DESC, and both being inconjunct Moon in Aries in 2nd.

Another friendship (20+ years):
Moon in Pisces in 12th square Neptune in 9th

My eldest friend and her husband (together for 12 years and happy):
Moon in Pisces in 12th square Neptune

Another friend and her man (relationship of 7 years and as much in love as ever - I am pretty jealous to be honest ):

Moon conjunct Sun in Taurus and both opposing Neptune and Mercury
(though oppositions have some similiarities to conjunctions, as any two planets have two midpoints, and the composite just uses the near one; but that doesn`t mean the far one does not exist, it is just on the other side)

Another couple who split up after about 12 years, had Moon trine Pluto

my parents:

Moon in Cancer in 12th house square Neptune in 3rd house

Let`s try for celebrities:

Brad and Angelina:
Moon in Pisces in 5th square Neptune (out of sign though)

Paul Newman and JOanne woodward
Moon in 2nd opposite Neptune in 8th (only 1-2° orb)

Finally I found one I think!

Paul and LInda Mc Cartney

Moon conjunct Neptune (4 degrees out of sign)
Moon sextile Pluto (2 degrees)

And Moon was also trine Saturn-Uranus-conjunction

Pierre and Marie Curie:
Moon in Cappy in 12th trine Pluto in 4th and square Neptune in 3rd

(the Moon-Neptune-square comes up pretty often surprisingly, as does a 12th house or Pisces Moon)

Humphrey Bogart - Lauren BAcall
Moon conjunct Neptune in Cancer in 2nd

Sri Aurobindo and Mira Richard:
(twinsouls, but not lovers)
Moon conjunct Mercury opposite Sun-Venus-Pluto

posted August 16, 2012 04:50 AM            

1. Moon in Pisces (again?) opposite Pluto, and both squaring Sun

2. Moon in Pisces (yeah I know. lol) square Neptune and inconjunct Pluto (in the DRaco charts the Draco composite conjuncts the normal composite Moon)

3. Moon conjunct Venus squaring Mars-Pluto-NN (though the orbs are wide:
Moon 22 Cap
Venus 16 Cap
Pluto 15 Libra
NN 20 Libra
Mars 23 Libra)

posted August 16, 2012 05:21 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
going through my astrodata:
I realize I must have a thing for the challenging aspects of Pluto and Neptune to Moon. lol
And those who have it I felt a tight bond with, especially compared to those wher there was no aspect between Moon and Neptune/ Pluto at all.

A very close, though geographically distant, friendship of 9 years, in which we really talk about anything, has a Yod of Neptune in 9th sextile Pluto exact on DESC, and both being inconjunct Moon in Aries in 2nd.

Another friendship (20+ years):
Moon in Pisces in 12th square Neptune in 9th

My eldest friend and her husband (together for 12 years and happy):
Moon in Pisces in 12th square Neptune

Another friend and her man (relationship of 7 years and as much in love as ever - I am pretty jealous to be honest ):

Moon conjunct Sun in Taurus and both opposing Neptune and Mercury
(though oppositions have some similiarities to conjunctions, as any two planets have two midpoints, and the composite just uses the near one; but that doesn`t mean the far one does not exist, it is just on the other side)

Another couple who split up after about 12 years, had Moon trine Pluto

my parents:

Moon in Cancer in 12th house square Neptune in 3rd house

Let`s try for celebrities:

Brad and Angelina:
Moon in Pisces in 5th square Neptune (out of sign though)

Paul Newman and JOanne woodward
Moon in 2nd opposite Neptune in 8th (only 1-2° orb)

Finally I found one I think!

Paul and LInda Mc Cartney

Moon conjunct Neptune (4 degrees out of sign)
Moon sextile Pluto (2 degrees)

And Moon was also trine Saturn-Uranus-conjunction

Pierre and Marie Curie:
Moon in Cappy in 12th trine Pluto in 4th and square Neptune in 3rd

(the Moon-Neptune-square comes up pretty often surprisingly, as does a 12th house or Pisces Moon)

Humphrey Bogart - Lauren BAcall
Moon conjunct Neptune in Cancer in 2nd

Sri Aurobindo and Mira Richard:
(twinsouls, but not lovers)
Moon conjunct Mercury opposite Sun-Venus-Pluto

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posted August 16, 2012 05:35 AM            

With my eldest friend Moon would still be in Pisces but in 1st house (as both ASC and Moon are in Pisces)

Between her and her hubby Moon would still be in 12th house (Moon in Pisces, ASC in ARies)

my parents:
Moon still in 12th house (Moon in Cancer, ASC in Leo)

for Pierre and Marie Curie Moon would be in 1st house, as both, Moon and ASC, are in Cappy.

So, 2 change into 1st house, 2 stay in 12th - not very conclusive.

posted August 16, 2012 06:06 AM            

I have the moon in the 12th with one of my really good friends (both have it natally), and we love spending one-on-one time together. We have been friends for 3 years, and maybe this placement is what is keeping the relationship from falling apart with the horrid tight squares the moon receives from Saturn and Uranus Ugh I feel those squares tho.

posted August 16, 2012 06:19 AM            

As for my parents, I`d think their relationship is much more gentle and nurturing than it seems to be. They do come across as very affectionate (Leo ASC with Sun in 5th house with Venus and Mercury in the same house though not conjunct), but the Cancer Moon gives a quality of emotional bonding and family-feeling that might not have been there otherwise.
And they feel that now and then they have to retreat into "twosomeness", which is why they are going on their short trips, that is what energizes them.

I believe a relationship or even friendship with Moon in 12th house definitely need this occasional retreat from the outer world and just be together as "two" to recharge their batteries.

of course this would probably be even more true for 4th house placements; I am not yet completely clear about the difference in the 12th house. Maybe this kind of retreat in the 12th house feels more spiritually recharging? More a spiritual than a generally emotional merging?

(of course I am talking about a very positively expressed planet in 12th house ).

posted August 16, 2012 07:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I believe a relationship or even friendship with Moon in 12th house definitely need this occasional retreat from the outer world and just be together as "two" to recharge their batteries.

of course this would probably be even more true for 4th house placements; I am not yet completely clear about the difference in the 12th house. Maybe this kind of retreat in the 12th house feels more spiritually recharging? More a spiritual than a generally emotional merging?

(of course I am talking about a very positively expressed planet in 12th house ).

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In a composite with my longtime male Pisces friend, we have the love stellium in the 12th trine moon that's conjunct the IC. Ours is a very deep friendship, where I feel not only accepted, appreciated and nurtured, but I also understood, and that is very rare for me. I know this would be expressed much differently if we were in a romantic relationship, but I do not like being alone with him. We talk on the phone for hours and hours, we go out with friends and have get-togethers, but I have only spent time with him one-on-one twice, in all the years we have been friends. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that he once confessed that he had a crush on me when he was drunk and our relationship gets filtered through that on my end.
I imagine it would be the deep psychological connection that you're talking about if this was a romantic relationship where I didn't have to sensor myself at all. Still, our bond is really strong. He is a homebody just like me, and we have great mental chemistry (mercury conjunct NN).

posted August 16, 2012 12:32 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lava Flower:

Sorry for getting totally sidetracked RAS

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lol no, it's fascinating reading you and ceri's posts. not to worry.
thank u so much for checking, ceri. surprisngly, i also have composite moon in aspect to pluto (sometimes the negative aspect) and always a square or opposition with composite moon and neptune with the people who affected me deeply, but i couldnt find anyone i had composite moon sextile or trine neptune with other than him!

i remember hating the square of moon and neptune. i really dont like it. the disappointments are really painful. moon in negative aspect to pluto isnt so bad, though its almost too obsessive, too compulsive, just like the conjunction.

moon, pluto, and neptune are all water sign rulers. and just like 4th, 8th, and 12 houses are important in astrology for deep connections with someone, my theory was that aspects between these planets in synastry or composite touched you deeply, more deeply than other placements.

posted August 16, 2012 02:16 PM            

I found that odd about the Moon-Neptune-square or opposition, how frequently it popped up, even in my own composites.
Yet I never really experienced it in the way you described.
Well, I am of course basing this on my friendship which has Moon-Neptune- square, and it is pretty wide (6 degrees), though I think still active.

Though now when I think about it, in the beginning of the friendship, she was battling some inner demons, and would often not appear or be evasive or whatever.
It was during our adolescence, so it is long ago.

The thing is everyone was warning me that she was taking advantage of me, that she was deceptive etc.
And somehow that had never even crossed my mind, despite it all. And it was not only me, she was making some mistakes, had a hard time with her family, school and friends and most of all herself (she was on 14 years old after all, I am 2 years older).

Anyway one day she decided to make a clear cut, put the cards on the table; not just with me but with other people she disappointed, too (the irony is I wasn`t even disappointed.).
She was very honest about her mistakes, and most people couldn`t accept the apology or trust her again. So she lost practically all of her friends.
For some reason this was not even a problem for me.
We had a very long talk (she was talking actually); I accepted her apology and that was actually when our real friendship started. I never had any trust issues with her, I donīt know why.

Well, it was then, when she was totally 100% invested in our frindship, that I started getting evasive, as I didnīt want to invest too much (I had just been treated really badly by someone I thought was my friend), and I was afraid she might ask too much of me, too much of our friendship, that I couldnīt deliver.

Well, at the end of the day, we are still best friends, 23 years later, and I accepted that she probably was right from the beginning, when she said, that our friendship is one of the rare constants in ones life, and that we will always be in each other`s life, even though we are treading on different paths.

So thinking about it, we probably worked through quite a lot of Neptune issues already. lol

"moon, pluto, and neptune are all water sign rulers. and just like 4th, 8th, and 12 houses are important in astrology for deep connections with someone, my theory was that aspects between these planets in synastry or composite touched you deeply, more deeply than other placements.

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Yes. I once formulated some sort of theory on this one:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019007.html

I still am pretty convinced it is not wrong.

posted August 16, 2012 08:04 PM            

I think venus-pluto falls under its very own category though. A mixture of both romantic/sexual compatibility and soulmates.

But i do think that the moon, pluto, neptune aspects show soulmates more for some reason....bc like i said i experienced that venus pluto DW with the love stellium 4 times. For some reason....the moon, pluto neotune aspects...it is a lot more powerful in the composite

posted August 16, 2012 08:05 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lioness:
I dont know if you consider moon conjunct pluto a positive aspect but I have in a composite

moon conjunct Pluto
and
moon sextile Neptune

Right now Idk what to say about it.. At the moment I dont have anything positive to say..

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Alsi in synastry we have a both way moon sextile pluto,

His moon conjunct my neptune
His neptune trine my moon (but a bit wide)
My neptune sq his Sun..

Now thats its all said and done...
I dont feel like the fog lifted, or feel like he's he different than I thought..

I still think he's a heck of a person... I really really did deeply bond with him...

I have said before I dont think he's the one, but I have a need to let this play out..
Which it has...
I have no regrets... Ive grown so much and understand some new things about myself..
I truly do wish him the best in life...