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posted August 17, 2012 08:39 PM            

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Im talking about where one person is somehow completely decieved/conned/betrayed/used by the other person intentionally. What aspects in synastry/composite do you think can point towards this?

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posted August 18, 2012 03:26 AM            

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Many Neptune hard aspects to personal planets in synastry or in the composite.

Asteroid lie in hard aspect in synastry and the composite. I would really worry if it was exact.

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posted August 18, 2012 07:49 PM            

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I totally agree with hard-Neptune touching your personal planets. Also watch out for hard-Pluto cause in its negative it becomes manipulative, controlling, and destructive whatever planets it touches.

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posted August 18, 2012 08:09 PM            

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First thing I thought was Neptune!

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posted August 18, 2012 09:01 PM            

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I was thinking hard neptune aspects too. Hard pluto crossed my mind, but they would be very different no matter how destructive they can sometimes become.
Im thinking hard neptune aspects to another persons sun, venus, or mars would be ripe for this type of thing.

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posted August 19, 2012 12:48 AM            

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Hard Neptune makes sense. Now, in a case of where one's Neptune is square or opposite someone's Venus, who is doing the deceiving/betrayal, is it the Neptune or the Venus person?

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posted August 19, 2012 12:56 AM            

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I tend to think you need the natal set up for this.
For example Marilyn Monroe, H8 ruler Neptune in H1 opp H12 ruler Moon in H7.

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posted August 19, 2012 05:47 AM            

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Ouch.
Neptune hard aspects or 12th house, probably.

I hope it doesn't *always* have to manifest negatively, though..

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posted August 19, 2012 07:01 AM            

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I thought neptune too! I had this with my ex. It was a karmic relationship (past life connection, my astrologer told me this) but neptune was involved too. It ended with deception (my ex slept with other women and hid it from me).

So yeah...hope not see neptune stuff in my next relationship, feel I learnt it the hard way for 2 and half years.

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posted August 19, 2012 07:34 AM            

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Sparkling, who was the Neptune person? Was it your ex or you?

And, what were the aspects?

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posted August 19, 2012 09:19 AM            

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I think it can be hard to tell which person will act out the outer planet in synastry. Sometimes the positions are reversed with the inner planet feeling and acting out the outer with the outer person almost seemingly unaware.

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posted August 19, 2012 09:29 AM            

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^ Great..

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