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Topic: What the hell is a Capricorn?
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frankie2912
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From: yep,ks,usa
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posted August 23, 2012 07:05 PM
  
Ok so my whole life I've wondered why my sign is a friggin goat with a fish tail but never thought to research or ask...until now. What's up with this sign's animal? It doesn't even exist in nature. Every other sign has a character that either exists or is well-known in mythology (like a centaur)..so what's with the goat-fish? Doesn't make sense to me at all. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted August 23, 2012 07:07 PM
http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/capricorn-mythology.html IP: Logged |
frankie2912
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From: yep,ks,usa
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posted August 23, 2012 08:55 PM
Thanx for the link, interesting story but it still makes me wonder what traits Capricorns share with this mythological creature...and where did sea-goats come from in the first place? Why sea-goats? Is there no myth that explains that?IP: Logged |
ail221
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From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home
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posted August 23, 2012 08:57 PM
There sea-goats because if they run out of grass on land they can dive into the sea and eat seaweed. Seagoats prepared for global warming Shrug IP: Logged |
cappy1277
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posted August 23, 2012 08:57 PM
http://www.esotericastrologer.org/Newsletters/73%20Capricorn%202012%20Unicorn%20Sea%20Goat.%20Tolkien.%20Lord%20Rings..htm IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 23, 2012 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
Thanx for the link, interesting story but it still makes me wonder what traits Capricorns share with this mythological creature...and where did sea-goats come from in the first place? Why sea-goats? Is there no myth that explains that?
to me the story illustrates the life lesson of capricorn, relax and don't try to control everything. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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From: GMT-5
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posted August 23, 2012 09:01 PM
Yeah I never got why Capricorn was a seagoat or how it related trait-wise,  IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted August 23, 2012 10:29 PM
I thought it was because we are deeply emotional (hence the tail...sort of Piscean) AND ambitious like the mountain goat. The animal is weirdly equipped to go to the depths and heights. The whole vertical scale of earthly existence. Yet...it's not really equipped for either. Who can drag their tail up a mountain? And a goat can't breath underwater. So there is a lot of tension in Capricorn. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted August 24, 2012 12:06 AM
A freaking pain in the butt, that's what it is. HehIP: Logged |
Nine
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posted August 24, 2012 12:24 AM
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What's up with this sign's animal? It doesn't even exist in nature. Every other sign has a character that either exists or is well-known in mythology (like a centaur)..so what's with the goat-fish? Doesn't make sense to me at all.
The Sun. On 12.21 the Sun gets to the lowest point in the sky - submerged in the watery depths. A few days later it starts it's slow climb back up the mountain. IP: Logged |
Gray
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posted August 24, 2012 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
Ok so my whole life I've wondered why my sign is a friggin goat with a fish tail but never thought to research or ask...until now. What's up with this sign's animal? It doesn't even exist in nature. Every other sign has a character that either exists or is well-known in mythology (like a centaur)..so what's with the goat-fish? Doesn't make sense to me at all.
Look at it this way, Libras only get an inanimate object. Sure, it's a NOBLE one, but..
And no, Capricorn isn't linked to the sun. That's Leo's department. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted August 24, 2012 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by ail221:
There sea-goats because if they run out of grass on land they can dive into the sea and eat seaweed. Seagoats prepared for global warming Shrug
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RedScorp
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posted August 24, 2012 02:20 AM
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The Sun. On 12.21 the Sun gets to the lowest point in the sky - submerged in the watery depths. A few days later it starts it's slow climb back up the mountain.
Ohhhh that's cool! Makes sense.  IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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From: Jupiter
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 24, 2012 02:20 AM
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Originally posted by Gray:
And no, Capricorn isn't linked to the sun. That's Leo's department.
This was funny tho I don't think Nine meant it that way... IP: Logged |
Capricorn Sun
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From: Planet Saturn
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 24, 2012 02:40 AM
Capricorn is the stable sea goat. The goat front is always climbing up for success, but can swim in the depths of any water there is. The twins are a dual personality, the fish are the magical in-twiners, the goat is both successful on top and bottom. Each zodiac sign has another side to them. The libra blance scale, the aquarian water bearer, the moon crab, the soft stinging scorpy, the centaur, the maiden virgin, the loving roaring lion, the tender bull, the brilliant ram, all of them carry another trait along with their main sign. The goat is old and wise but lives the longest. He will find the best on top of the hoofed path mountain or the deep end of the bottom of the ocean. Even though he's wise, he is very young at heart. I find our sea-goat to be one of the best astrological beings there is. ------------------
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DiamondGoddess!
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From: Venus, by way of Saturn
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 24, 2012 03:02 AM
The Capricorn glyph is a goat with a fish (or dolphin) tail, symbolizing the Capricorn climb from the bottom of the ocean to the top of the mountain. This climb is WHY we Cappys are here!
I am Capricorn Sun at the Midheaven, Taurus rising, Moon (+ other planets!) in Aquarius!
I could explain this with my life as an example, but shall refrain. =)
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ueharaa
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posted August 24, 2012 06:26 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
I thought it was because we are deeply emotional (hence the tail...sort of Piscean) AND ambitious like the mountain goat. The animal is weirdly equipped to go to the depths and heights. The whole vertical scale of earthly existence. Yet...it's not really equipped for either. Who can drag their tail up a mountain? And a goat can't breath underwater. So there is a lot of tension in Capricorn.
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7thGuardian
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From: Transylvania
Registered: May 2012
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posted August 24, 2012 06:50 AM
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/capricorn.html - that's the site with the most detailed and compressive answers about a sign from the ones i know. quote:
Some see the Capricorn's scaly tail as that of the sea-serpent, a creature of 'old knowledge', wise in matters of the occult and offering a potential for understanding beyond limited, earthly experience. Capricorns are known for being 'older than their years' and those who take up the study of mysteries and traditions gravitate towards a masterly knowledge of their craft just as the business minded Capricorn will gravitate towards the managerial position. Mastery and power are the understated keywords of this sign. Even the earthy aspect of the goat is frequently underestimated in its potential for symbolising hidden reserves of strength.There is a feature of the goat that deserves special attention in our understanding of this sign. The name 'Capricorn' draws our attention to it and comes from the Latin caper ('goat') and cornu ('horn') - literally 'the Goat's horn'. In the ancient world horns were symbols of royalty, strength and power, as well as fertility and abundance. Cornucopia in mythology was the goat Amalthea who nourished the infant Jupiter with her milk, though the term remains in use today as the 'copious horn' or 'horn of plenty' which symbolises prosperity and growth. The goat is one of the three horned creatures in the zodiac; these were also the creatures celebrated in ancient religious festivals and used in sacrifice to draw power from the gods. The use of the goat as a 'scapegoat' in the biblical ritual of Atonement (see the star lore of Capricorn) has led to goat deities accumulating a reputation as icons of evil occult powers rather than the neutral symbols of earthly fertility and focused power that was implicit in the older customs.
...you can find more info in above link. IP: Logged |
HighFive
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posted August 24, 2012 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by DiamondGoddess!:
The Capricorn glyph is a goat with a fish (or dolphin) tail, symbolizing the Capricorn climb from the bottom of the ocean to the top of the mountain. This climb is WHY we Cappys are here!
I am Capricorn Sun at the Midheaven, Taurus rising, Moon (+ other planets!) in Aquarius!
I could explain this with my life as an example, but shall refrain. =)
Ola, you've got a smiliar astro recipe as me. Sun in cap at the midheaven, taurus asc. My moon is in cap though, in the 9th house.
I'm curious how it turned out for you.
I assume you've achieved at least some kind of recognition in your life, is that right?
Are you a very very slow "climber"? Me, I'm more than happy to remain behind the scenes, always hiding in a way (must be the 12th house jupiter aspecting sun).
Maybe I'm just so careful not to embarass myself with failure. I'll admit I've often dreamt of successful career, something I could be proud of.
I guess I am that much of a capricorn even if I'm too lazy to pull anything off :P IP: Logged |
starfox
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From: London England
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posted August 24, 2012 07:23 PM
Capricorn climbs up high as he can and then he weeps in the waters way down below. Its a kind yin/yang duality thing how I see it.
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Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
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posted August 24, 2012 09:14 PM
Capricorn is supposed to be the Arch Cardinal sign - first among the cardinal signs.The symbol of Capricorn is one of determination & triumph of the will. After the Aquarian floods, everything is made to swim. The most ambitious and willful, however, will seek a different path and climb their way out of the oceans. This is Capricorn, the first. The goat half is what they are, what they've become. The fish tail is where they've come from. Capricorn is/was a fish just like Pisces, swimming aimlessly in the Aquarian waters. This cardinal little fishy had ambition, but since fish don't have feet he evolved. However, you can't completely shed your past, so we know exactly where the ambitious go getter came out. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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From: Jupiter
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posted August 24, 2012 09:37 PM
Hi nine  the "go getters" came out of the sea & evolved how? They used to be a fish?
I'm just reminded of the ancient stories now of how angels came down & had sexual relations with humans & their offsprings were giants, then half horse half man (centaur) Nessus.... Half goat half man like Philoctetes ... Do u think the fish & goat had sexual relations & out came Capricorn? Half fish half goat babies? I wonder how they walked around. I would think their tails would dry up with no water & the goat half can only stay so long under water.
If Pan is identified as capricorn then Capricorn's would have the same traits as Pan http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000977.html Edit to add:
Capricornus is also sometimes identified as Pan, the god with a goat's head, who saved himself from the monster Typhon by giving himself a fish's tail and diving into a river.
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Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
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posted August 24, 2012 10:03 PM
Now you've heard my argument, what's yours?? quote:
Do u think the fish & goat had sexual relations & out came Capricorn?
Are you serious?? quote:
I would think their tails would dry up with no water & the goat half can only stay so long under water.
I'm guessing here you beat me to it. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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From: Jupiter
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posted August 24, 2012 10:12 PM
it was interesting IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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From: Jupiter
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posted August 24, 2012 10:33 PM
Still researching frankie it's gonna be good...
Check out my link please it's about Asteroid Pan. IP: Logged |
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