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sexyaqua30
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posted August 25, 2012 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I met this cancer (cancer sun and venus) at my job who is now my personal trainer and was fast becoming my new friend but I'm becoming turned off by some of his ways. He's your typical cancer who came off very sweet, sensitive, protective and good ear when you need to vent but after getting to know him more I'm finding him to be a huge guilt tripper, manipulator and liar. He lies about the littliest things. It's so uncalled for. He also has this *** for tat thing that rubs me the wrong way. Perfect example he buys something for me (i didn't ask for) then turns around and says, "I like this so now you know what you can get me?" Wth? Whatever happened to getting and giving things from the heart.

About his past I discovered he's estranged from his mom and wonder if there was truth in astrology and cancer men with whom the relationship with their mother was bad would somehow taint them in some way? It's such a shame because Itruly like him but now everytime I'm around him I always get the vibe he has an ulterior motive and being a very intuitive person and raising a cancer daughter (she's a cancer sun and moon) I feel I might have to start distancing myself before my blunt sag moon tells him to cut the crap that i see right through.

Anyone ever experienced the negative side of a cancer? How did you deal with it?

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Gray
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posted August 25, 2012 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unevolved Pisceans do the same thing. A shady Cancer and a shady Pisces really aren't all that different from each other.

What I do is hold them accountable anyway. While everybody else is patting them on the hand and looking the other way and cuddling them because the Cancer/Pisces just told them some sob story about their 'horrible life', I'm always the one who goes, "You know what? Plenty of people have had it hard. That's no excuse or justification".

And that's really what you have to do, is just refuse to play into it, even if the people around you are doing it, or giving you grief for not coddling that person. Because it's true, all the past harm and hurt in the world, doesn't give anybody the right to go out and then kcuf over the next person or do unethical things.

So whatever emotionally manipulative tactics they use...whatever excuses or guilt-trips they try to lay on you, you just have to put all that crap aside and look at the situation for what it is. What their life was like in the past, and any other emotional factors are irrelevant. The point is, did they do something NOW, that was unacceptable in some way.

And if they did, wrong is wrong period, and they should be called on it just like anyone else, and if what they did warrants ending the friendship or some kind of penalty, then that's what should happen.

I think to some extent this is an easier thing for a person whose chart has a lot of the air element, to do. Because it's much easier for us to just look at a situation based strictly on logic and evidence and what has actually occurred, and put aside all the emotional factors/manipulation that might occur.

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C1ND3R
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posted August 25, 2012 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One person with both sun and venus in Cancer in their third, used to make me MELT!! Their voice, alone! They were so, so, so, sweet and my venus in Cancer would be activated, too! I wanted to cuddle em.. They did have sob stories. We shared. I was insisting on wanting a relationship and they, with a south node in their 11th, wanted to be "friends" because they traveled a lot and said didn't have the time and weren't available... Well, they kept the line open (moon in libra) til i showed up at their house unannounced and saw a car in their driveway (not theirs) and the lights in the house were off...... I dropped off their stuff on the doorway right then and there.. I think they freaked to have had their little "kid" persona fall apart in the eye's of someone else... Their mars fell in my twelfth. They also had some kind of unhealthy obsession with sex.. We went to the beach together and though we were there as "friends" we had just had sex about 4 times while i spent the entire weekend with them, i almost ripped em a new one while they blatantly flirted and STARED at half-naked as$es til their eyes caved in.

They said how their mom even still called them "little boy".. Mind you, the person is 6'3".

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posted August 25, 2012 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I like this so now you know what you can get me?"

Maybe he's just joking around and teasing you

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sexyaqua30
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posted August 25, 2012 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Runs No he wasn't joking. The next day when I showed up to workout he asked where his stuff was.

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sexyaqua30
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posted August 25, 2012 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
One person with both sun and venus in Cancer in their third, used to make me MELT!! Their voice, alone! They were so, so, so, sweet and my venus in Cancer would be activated, too! I wanted to cuddle em.. They did have sob stories. We shared. I was insisting on wanting a relationship and they, with a south node in their 11th, wanted to be "friends" because they traveled a lot and said didn't have the time and weren't available... Well, they kept the line open (moon in libra) til i showed up at their house unannounced and saw a car in their driveway (not theirs) and the lights in the house were off...... I dropped off their stuff on the doorway right then and there.. I think they freaked to have had their little "kid" persona fall apart in the eye's of someone else... Their mars fell in my twelfth. They also had some kind of unhealthy obsession with sex.. We went to the beach together and though we were there as "friends" we had just had sex about 4 times while i spent the entire weekend with them, i almost ripped em a new one while they blatantly flirted and STARED at half-naked as$es til their eyes caved in.

They said how their mom even still called them "little boy".. Mind you, the person is 6'3".



Wow...when I read this I wonder why try and keep up this image you want others to think of you? Do you think it's something where it's done in innocence or without knowing and that they themselves believe this should be the true image of them until they're foundout?

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C1ND3R
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posted August 25, 2012 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:

Wow...when I read this I wonder why try and keep up this image you want others to think of you? Do you think it's something where it's done in innocence or without knowing and that they themselves believe this should be the true image of them until they're foundout?


It's just they've gotten love and reinforcement whenever they act that way.. So, they feel people like it and they themselves like the recognition. They are also more than likely to get aeay with a lot... Ever see American Psycho? "It's hip to be square"? He got away with all that he did because he was such a pathetic bpre with everyone so, he wouldn't be pinned for any of his deeds.. It's why before he delivers that axe to paul's head, he makes a reference to the song and says it's about the "pleasures of comformity".

Mama wanted a baby boy, and every time he played in, he got mama's love ans what he wanted and as he grew up, he probably found it worked in more ways than one.

And yes, part of them being able to believe that is largely due to the reaction they get from other people.

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C1ND3R
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posted August 25, 2012 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
@Runs No he wasn't joking. The next day when I showed up to workout he asked where his stuff was.

Rofllllllll

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C1ND3R
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posted August 25, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvBAEp3Znn4

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VenusDiSirius
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posted August 25, 2012 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
The next day when I showed up to workout he asked where his stuff was.

what did you say?

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