posted August 26, 2012 08:51 PM            

This is a pattern with me.
First of all I have very bad relationship with some family members (I don't talk to some any longer and I used to be really close to them).
The same happens with friends. I get very close to them, hang out with them a lot. But there always comes a point when they have a behavior that I can't forgive which makes me just cut the ties.

Of course there is the usual growing apart which you can't help but here I'm more referring to a sort of bitter ending.
For example right now, I am wondering if I should just cut my "up to date" best friend off completely and not care about him any more second because of his "I don't care about you attitude" which somehow hurts me. The only reason I don't do so is because I've noticed the pattern and realize I've cut quite my share of people off.
I'm not reevaluating the reasons because there were good reasons for me to do so but still it makes me wonder if I'm just bound to do so and if somehow some aspects, placements, could point to this in a chart? Maybe it's an inner issue I have which could be shown through some aspect?

posted August 26, 2012 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I'm not necessarily talking about romantic relationships but any kind of meaning full relationship: parents , family members, close friends..

This is a pattern with me.
First of all I have very bad relationship with some family members (I don't talk to some any longer and I used to be really close to them).
The same happens with friends. I get very close to them, hang out with them a lot. But there always comes a point when they have a behavior that I can't forgive which makes me just cut the ties.

...makes me wonder if I'm just bound to do so and if somehow some aspects, placements, could point to this in a chart? Maybe it's an inner issue I have which could be shown through some aspect? .... but still this has been quite a constant theme with me so my natal might give clues?

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posted August 27, 2012 01:51 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusRising:
Whats your 6th house look like? Had read that the ruler of the 7th in the 6th is not good for relationships...I have this placement and I identify with what you are talking about. I go though the same thing..the longest I have ever had a non-family member in my life was 10years and that was just once (and slowing moving apart now)..besides that its like I start a new cycle of people every 2-5 years and then never see/talk to them again..for whatever reason. It can be frustrating

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posted August 27, 2012 10:34 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusRising:
Whats your 6th house look like? Had read that the ruler of the 7th in the 6th is not good for relationships...I have this placement and I identify with what you are talking about. I go though the same thing..the longest I have ever had a non-family member in my life was 10years and that was just once (and slowing moving apart now)..besides that its like I start a new cycle of people every 2-5 years and then never see/talk to them again..for whatever reason. It can be frustrating

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I have this too ! My 7th house ruler: Saturn is in my 6th house.
It widely conjuncts my Sun (and Uranus, Neptune). It is conjunct Karma and opposes chiron.

I would have never thought that this could be a clue. The only thing I had read about this placement was that it might indicate meeting one's partner at work, he/she could have a weak health.

As for venus - saturn aspect I don't have any. They're 20 degrees apart and My moon is on my Venus-saturn midpoint but that all I can think of. I have venus retrograde though and venus quincunx jupiter.

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OOOppss. I thought friend was friends. Its different about a marriage and friends and family. Must we be so close to friends? Why cant we have many friends? This is an part of our life to change friends sometimes. No person are perfect and when we are tired of each other its better to change and meet one another person. That's the best with friends you can have more than one and the problem will not be so big which it could be if it was a marriage or a person in your family. If we not get along with a familymember we not need to be att the person all the time. We have a choice what we want focus on.

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This is a really good point. The thing is I have a hard time thinking like this. I highly value friendship. Sure there are friends with whom you share just fun, and they don' really know you that well .. but then there are friends that can read inside of you like an open book. Who know you personal issues, your troubles, your imperfections but they still stick with you because you both genuinely appreciate the other. Maybe I think that way because of my cap moon and aqua venus. But one thing is for sure, it's that once I feel close to someone, it implies a certain level of loyalty and being there when needed. To me those friends are a bit like an extension of family and family is very important to me (I'm a cancer rising so that might also be why)

Problems arise though when I realize I'm just a second rate individual to them. when they don't value the relationship (whatever that relationship is) the way I value it. When I realize that I am either being used, or that I am a burden to them, whatever it is that shows me the person actually doesn't care, it is then very easy for me to just cut the ties. I've done it numerous times ever since I was 11 maybe ?
The odd thing is it doesn't hurt me to do so. I'm disappointed but I do it because I know it's the right thing to do for both people involved. And it is really easy for me, once I've come to this realization to just erase whatever feelings or thoughts I had about this person. It doesn't even turn into hate, but into complete indifference. Because why waste time on people who don't care at all?

Oh and about romantic partners, I've never dated but I am pretty sure this pattern will repeat itself if I ever did. I don't want to date just for fun and I don't see the point in going after people I feel no connection with. I seldom fall in love. So far I've been in love once and it was because I was stupid enough to believe the other person my have had feelings for me. I was completely love struck, obsessed and had a hard time just forgetting about him, then recently I realized the guy didn't even care a little and ever since everything is gone, just like that ! I don't even care a slightly bit anymore and am not even hurt because I know that's the just the wayt hings are and I can't change them.

posted August 27, 2012 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Jim:
This is interesting ... since my 7th ruler is on my 6th house , aswell i have saturn opposition venus in a really tigth orb
im still curious about that of 7th ruler in 6th house
i relate to what threadstarter said

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I also have these placements! I guess that explains everything.

My 7H ruler (Sun) is in the 6H Cancer. Looks like I'll live my life in servitude to others. (not that I really mind, but I also want to be cherished back you know? )

My 12H Saturn in Cap is opposite my 6H Venus in Cancer exact, and Chiron with a 1 degree orb.

posted August 27, 2012 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ariehnox:
I also have these placements! I guess that explains everything.

My 7H ruler (Sun) is in the 6H Cancer. Looks like I'll live my life in servitude to others. (not that I really mind, but I also want to be cherished back you know? )

My 12H Saturn in Cap is opposite my 6H Venus in Cancer exact, and Chiron with a 1 degree orb.

I can relate to all of what you guys said.

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This is exactly the kind of info that makes me wish I knew more about the 6th house. My sun is there too. It seems to be a more complex house than what I ever thought

What do you (and others who have their 7th house ruler in the 6th) do when you realize you're "in servitude" ? Do you cut the ties too?

That's what amazes me the most about it actually. I get reaaaally prideful when it comes to this. To some it even appears as meanness. But to me, it is my right to stand up for myself and make it so that I don't waste time and energy on people who don't return the feelings right? I mean I could just deal with it and make up excuses for them. And tell myself it's okay .. and that way I wouldn't have so many broken relationships with people. But I don't and I just can't.

posted August 27, 2012 12:13 PM            

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posted August 27, 2012 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
This is exactly the kind of info that makes me wish I knew more about the 6th house. My sun is there too. It seems to be a more complex house than what I ever thought

What do you (and others who have their 7th house ruler in the 6th) do when you realize you're "in servitude" ? Do you cut the ties too?

That's what amazes me the most about it actually. I get reaaaally prideful when it comes to this. To some it even appears as meanness. But to me, it is my right to stand up for myself and make it so that I don't waste time and energy on people who don't return the feelings right? I mean I could just deal with it and make up excuses for them. And tell myself it's okay .. and that way I wouldn't have so many broken relationships with people. But I don't and I just can't.

Maybe it's the capricorn - cancer combo ?

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I agree with the servitude part but only when its a very strong feeling , it has only happened to me once ,where i liked this person , and he didint like me back,so i cuted ties since it was hurting me , so it was only one time.

posted August 27, 2012 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
This is exactly the kind of info that makes me wish I knew more about the 6th house. My sun is there too. It seems to be a more complex house than what I ever thought

What do you (and others who have their 7th house ruler in the 6th) do when you realize you're "in servitude" ? Do you cut the ties too?

That's what amazes me the most about it actually. I get reaaaally prideful when it comes to this. To some it even appears as meanness. But to me, it is my right to stand up for myself and make it so that I don't waste time and energy on people who don't return the feelings right? I mean I could just deal with it and make up excuses for them. And tell myself it's okay .. and that way I wouldn't have so many broken relationships with people. But I don't and I just can't.

Maybe it's the capricorn - cancer combo ?

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Ah, had a lil error. My Sun is in Leo but in the 6H. I think signs hardly changes the house's effects though.

I have a (relatively) heavy 6H: Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Chiron. My Moon is also in the 12H along with Saturn. When I realize I'm 'in servitude' or simply when I feel suffocated, I either withdraw for loooooong periods (if I'm at the better end of the spectrum) or just break down, not knowing what to do. I know that the people around me are good people, they have their own share of faults and it's there for me to learn to accept. Recently, I had my heart broken. He's a friend and I know he currently cannot reciprocate feelings back, but he had also done things that some people might find 'unkindly', but still I forgave him. I don't think I could ever cut ties with anybody on a bad note. It will plague me to no end. For me if things aren't really serving its purpose, I just let it die a natural death. I distance myself and refocus on my life, and they will eventually on theirs. If we've matured throughout the experiences we had between those times apart, I think things will fall into place naturally and it wouldn't hurt to take a shot once more.