posted August 27, 2012 03:57 PM            

lol some strange conversation in this thread

and sand, haha! come on u know u like ur intensity

posted August 27, 2012 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
doux reve you look like pisces with some fire influence to me

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Wow, where'd you get that from?! I'm really surprised.

posted August 27, 2012 05:54 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Being shy is not a Capricorn trait - this is the most masculine sign of the zodiac, that reclusive state is not shyness - that's just being a man in the purest way possible - like those guys that come home from work, get a bear and park themselves in front of TV (just an example, even a stereotype - some retreat in a garage dealing with a hobby and so on...) - enjoying their manhood (kings of their castle) - at that point they don't need/want to deal with the rest ( wife, friends, kids)... and Capricorns are know for retreating in such way once in a wile...

Denying your Sun Sign (the way you are at heart) - can make you feal weak and unhappy, it's like being gay but you can't admit it - not even to yourself "cause others find it awkward"...

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i have seen cap girls. i don't want to be like them. zero femininity, rubbish social skills, social awkwardness, heavy on the uptake. please do not tell me i am supposed to want to be like this and be proud of this.

capricorns are the most horrible people in the world. toil toil toil. i have been watching the world. lovely, light, charismatic people with social skills get all the good things in life. all of this anti-capricorn. the cap way does not lead anywhere.

charming, lovely, desirable partners, lots of friends, graceful movements, tons of useful contacts.... - this cannot be obtained by capricornian means. horrible aloof rubbish only gets to go to bed with horrible aloof rubbish. is this what i am supposed to admit about myself? that i can only go to bed with horrible aloof rubbish everyone keeps at an arm's length? i don't want to. should i?

posted August 27, 2012 06:06 PM            

@Doux & Aeline - beautiful eyes.

posted August 27, 2012 11:51 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
female hitler? ras inroduce me to your friend!

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shes a sweetheart, but very demanding, and too critical of everyone

posted August 28, 2012 05:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
^ I can definitely see the Gemini but the Cancer influence is strong also.. kind of a weird combo! It's like sweetness mixed with malice lol.

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As a Gemini would put it: is that an objective perspective or is it subjective (wounded by a Gemini maybe)? - cause the others made clear that it's subjective from their experience with some Gemini.

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Originally posted by andstuff:
i have seen cap girls. i don't want to be like them. zero femininity, rubbish social skills, social awkwardness, heavy on the uptake. please do not tell me i am supposed to want to be like this and be proud of this.

capricorns are the most horrible people in the world. toil toil toil. i have been watching the world. lovely, light, charismatic people with social skills get all the good things in life. all of this anti-capricorn. the cap way does not lead anywhere.

charming, lovely, desirable partners, lots of friends, graceful movements, tons of useful contacts.... - this cannot be obtained by capricornian means. horrible aloof rubbish only gets to go to bed with horrible aloof rubbish. is this what i am supposed to admit about myself? that i can only go to bed with horrible aloof rubbish everyone keeps at an arm's length? i don't want to. should i?

you have nothing to object to this. anyone will choose an easy going, charming individual over a cap. this is why i chose to be the former. please believe me i have enough placements to be that and not my sun sign.

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...sorry - i thought you to be a man - you send a masculine vibe.

You misunderstood... i can see that you're hurt by this image of a Capricorn, which indeed is not that appropriate for a woman (being the most masculine sign) - yet, you are a Capricorn at hearth and that's not something you can deny - you're fighting against yourself by doing so... but as you put it - maybe you don't have strong placements along with your Sun, which helps you be "less of a Capricorn" - since the Sun sign alone doesn't represent you as a person... (kinda ironical that - i'm on a astrology forum and i have to repeat this so often) -

- those Capricorn woman, the ones from whom you borrowed the image of a Capricorn - have a strong Sun placement or they're helped by other placements and i can't agree that they're hard to deal with - "but", with your planetary placements you can prove that a Capricorn can be more than that... you don't have be ashamed of it, find some strength in your Sun - and give it "the place it deserves" - even if it's a smaller place - based on how much you relate with it... if you deny it - you'll just sabotage yourself by fighting against your nature - your Sun won't change if you deny it "you just won't be aware of your Capricorn drives" and might hurt some than act surprise if they tell you in what way you hurt them cause "you don't do that".

posted August 28, 2012 06:14 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
...sorry - i thought you to be a man - you send a masculine vibe.

You misunderstood... i can see that you're hurt by this image of a Capricorn, which indeed is not that appropriate for a woman (being the most masculine sign) - yet, you are a Capricorn at hearth and that's not something you can deny - you're fighting against yourself by doing so... but as you put it - maybe you don't have strong placements along with your Sun, which helps you be "less of a Capricorn" - since [b]the Sun sign alone doesn't represent you as a person... (kinda ironical that - i'm on a astrology forum and i have to repeat this so often) -

- those Capricorn woman, the ones from whom you borrowed the image of a Capricorn - have a strong Sun placement or they're helped by other placements and i can't agree that they're hard to deal with - "but", with your planetary placements you can prove that a Capricorn can be more than that... you don't have be ashamed of it, find some strength in your Sun - and give it "the place it deserves" - even if it's a smaller place - based on how much you relate with it... if you deny it - you'll just sabotage yourself by fighting against your nature - your Sun won't change if you deny it "you just won't be aware of your Capricorn drives" and might hurt some than act surprise if they tell you in what way you hurt them cause "you don't do that".

You made me a little curious - so if you wanna post a link to your chart - maybe i can help you understand in what way those your Sun affect you... only if you want - ofc.[/B]

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why are you rubbing it in that i am a capricorn at heart? i told you i am not, why are you insisting? this is not nice/polite. i realised i do not want nor need it, i squeezed it out of myself and i will keep squeezing out whatever remains. it was my choice to chuck it away. alright?

cap men are not cool either. i once said this, and i will repeat again. the best ones are: sag and gem. the best qualities. the best planets.

i don't need your help, lol, i have sun conj jupiter

posted August 28, 2012 07:14 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Being shy is not a Capricorn trait - this is the most masculine sign of the zodiac, that reclusive state is not shyness - that's just being a man in the purest way possible - like those guys that come home from work, get a bear and park themselves in front of TV (just an example, even a stereotype - some retreat in a garage dealing with a hobby and so on...) - enjoying their manhood (kings of their castle) - at that point they don't need/want to deal with the rest ( wife, friends, kids)... and Capricorns are know for retreating in such way once in a wile...

Denying your Sun Sign (the way you are at heart) - can make you feal weak and unhappy, it's like being gay but you can't admit it - not even to yourself "cause others find it awkward"...

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Unless I learned astrology wrong, capricorn isn't a masculine sign but a FEMININE sign. So unless you're referring to another kind of masculinity that can be seen elsewhere, I don't get it. Aquarius is supposed to be a masculine sign. Both originally ruled by Saturn, capricorn being an earth feminine saturn and aquarius an air masculine saturn.

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Originally posted by andstuff
i have seen cap girls. i don't want to be like them. zero femininity, rubbish social skills, social awkwardness, heavy on the uptake. please do not tell me i am supposed to want to be like this and be proud of this.

capricorns are the most horrible people in the world. toil toil toil. i have been watching the world. lovely, light, charismatic people with social skills get all the good things in life. all of this anti-capricorn. the cap way does not lead anywhere.

charming, lovely, desirable partners, lots of friends, graceful movements, tons of useful contacts.... - this cannot be obtained by capricornian means. horrible aloof rubbish only gets to go to bed with horrible aloof rubbish. is this what i am supposed to admit about myself? that i can only go to bed with horrible aloof rubbish everyone keeps at an arm's length? i don't want to. should i?

you have nothing to object to this. anyone will choose an easy going, charming individual over a cap. this is why i chose to be the former. please believe me i have enough placements to be that and not my sun sign.

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Don't you think it is a bit stereotyping capricorn women?
There are many famous capricorn sun or moon or venus who are very far from having zero feminity.

And, even if someone were to have a lot of planets in one sign (which is my case) the house placements and aspects play a huge part in how you channel this energy.

This being said those are my eyes :

EYESUEH by nausicaa7f, on Flickr

capricorn sun, capricorn moon, cancer asc.

(don't quote please, as I'll delete it later)

posted August 28, 2012 07:39 AM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Don't you think it is a bit stereotyping capricorn women?
There are many famous capricorn sun or moon or venus who are very far from having zero feminity.

And, even if someone were to have a lot of planets in one sign (which is my case) the house placements and aspects play a huge part in how you channel this energy.

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well. what can i say? we hate in others most what we can't forgive ourselves.

i was really apprehensive about exposing my body until i was 23 or so. i never used to wear dresses before. just the thought of how this saturn affected me makes me throw up. but NOW it's all changed. I walk around in mini skirts and don't give a damn. and the only thing i do regret is that these IDIOTIC saturnian restrictions had managed to mess me up earlier. i have been analysing. no good has come from this sun, none at all. apparently according to some people i have to be reserved and shy, just keep being that. no chance.

posted August 28, 2012 08:05 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:

i was really apprehensive about exposing my body until i was 23 or so. i never used to wear dresses before. just the thought of how this saturn affected me makes me throw up. but NOW it's all changed. I walk around in mini skirts and don't give a damn. and the only thing i do regret is that these IDIOTIC saturnian restrictions had managed to mess me up earlier. i have been analysing. no good has come from this sun, none at all. apparently according to some people i have to be reserved and shy, just keep being that. no chance.

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posted August 28, 2012 08:12 AM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Yes, I can relate to this also. It wasn't until a year ago that I learned to completely be comfortable in my own skin and wear feminine clothes. And now just like you I absolutely don't care how it makes me appear. I think cap are really great at sabotaging themselves out of fear or because they want to be cautious. They always give a second thought to anything they want to do. I guess when we're young, it can really feel like a limitative, restrictive influence. But I guess with time it just gets better right? After bumping into the walls we surrounded ourselves with so many times, we learn how to overcome them.
Maybe capricorns become more comfortable with themselves as time goes by .

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well who wants it when one is old? old age is rubbish, youth rocks. and a great deal of mine was partially scre*ed up by Saturn. I don't have a single thing to thank the damn planet for, not one. just to THINK i could keep getting DISGUSTING 35 year olds trying to pick me up and take me to bed, as if they were entitled. no thanks. none of that please. i know some people would say this is my destiny. but well. perhaps the only Cap trait i have is a certain obstinacy. i would do anything to prove anyone wrong.

posted August 28, 2012 08:27 AM            

He's not a bad guy. Just takes time and experience to function on a positive level.

Being a Capricorn is not a bad thing, either.
Where'd you get that from?
So what, Geminis and Saggis are funnier?
Maybe.
But it doesn't mean Cap is always boring and dull. They have a lot to offer to the society.
Without Saturn/Cap, we'd have no rules, no structures, just a mess, not a society.

And Saturnian people can be very funny and sweet.

And they're usually quite seductive.. So honestly, there's no need for so much hate for your own sign.

Every sign is beautiful in its own way and has its own qualities.

posted August 28, 2012 08:27 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
why are you rubbing it in that i am a capricorn at heart? i told you i am not, why are you insisting? this is not nice/polite. i realised i do not want nor need it, i squeezed it out of myself and i will keep squeezing out whatever remains. it was my choice to chuck it away. alright?

cap men are not cool either. i once said this, and i will repeat again. the best ones are: sag and gem. the best qualities. the best planets.

i don't need your help, lol, i have sun conj jupiter

purely to satisfy your curiosity though here it is http://imageshack.us/f/440/astro2gw01anonymous3226.gif/

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^^ ...didn't mean it in a "personal way" - it's the same with everybody - that's what our Sun sign stands for - "how we are at hearth, our basic drives..." and Mercury is how we are at mind - and yours is in Sagittarius... in House 7 (house of Libra - the harmonizer), along with and Uranus (our rebellious nature)... wile your Capricorn Sun is paired with Jupiter (our optimistic nature) and Neptune (our elusive nature - where we elude ourselves) - but different houses... that explains some things but - you made it clear that you don't wanna know - so I'll stop here... there's always the hard way of learning things (from our own experience)...

Beyond that - Gemini and Sagittarius - might sound "cool" in theory, but in practice... that's far from being a reality... and especially this combination - Gemini (Mercury) being the opposite of Sagittarius (Jupiter) - i have a friend with Sagittarius Sun and Gemini ASC - where his Sagittarius is dominant in more ways than one:

Sun Sagittarius
Moon Leo
Mercury Sagittarius
Venus Sagittarius
Mars Libra
Jupiter Aquarius
Saturn Sagittarius
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio

...and he's the most unstable person i know, he's same age as you but... well, careful for what you wish for... cause i doubt you'd wanna be anything like him.

posted August 28, 2012 08:38 AM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I looked at your chart and saw that you have a t-square of venus, moon and saturn.
I can only imagine that it can be difficult to work with saturn aspecting both venus and moon.

This is certainly why you don't like this planet that much.
As for old age, I'm not sure there's a need to wait that long (and certainly don't hope so). By the first saturn return, it should be better right?

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it's not much of a t-square, especially given that the orb for saturn sq venus is a very loose one. and seriously so what? kim gordon has an opposition and she got herself the coolest man on earth.

it still vexes me very much to know that things might only get better after the return, i'd rather be happy while young. not pretty, is it? young and unhappy followed by old but happy. why not the two together?

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I do understand and agree that Saturn prominent in the chart can make one insecure and whatnot, but you see, you have rosen above it and Saturn actually taught you a lesson.

He's not a bad guy. Just takes time and experience to function on a positive level.

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well you see. there you go. other people do not have to go through these horrors. they have good things right away. they do not have to earn anything. not super-fair, is it?

@ VenusDiSirius, I am not making a secret of my age. I was born in 85.

@7th Guardian