posted August 27, 2012 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ueharaa:
[b] No I don't, which is what I find odd too. My venus square pluto by sign though but definitely not by orb.
The closest to this I can find is I have Sun/Uranus conjunction on my Venus/Mars midpoint.
Sappho conjuncts my Sun
and Juno conjuncts pluto (>3°orb) vesta square pluto.

I cried too when watching the Notebook because after all love is beautiful but I like spicier stories.

Yes Elizabeth taylor had all those aspects. with moon trine pluto and quincunx her venus/uranus conjunction.

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There is also the Waldemath's moon http://darkstarastrology.com/waldemath/ which is h58 at astro.
Mine is in leo, in the 1t house, opposing my venus and trining my mars.

posted August 27, 2012 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

But if I were to insert myself into some kind of fictional romance, I’d probably make myself a beautiful yet overly sheltered princess, or the proper daughter of some very rich people, who due to unusual circumstances crosses paths with a more free and wild swashbuckling hero type, that also has a killer sense of humor…. Sort of an opposites attract type of thing… But though a bunch of highs and lows, and crazy happenings in life, they learn how to trust each other, and not only fall in love but become best friends.

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Ah, how sweet!
I LOVE that!
And don`t forget the sheltered princess has a n urge for an authentic life outside of "protocols" and she wants to be free and really FEEL alive.

Actually my princess would probably not be so much a princess, but even though being a princess, being somewhat a misfit in her social environment. Awkard maybe, too much thirst for independence for a woman, for REALNESS. REal, primal feelings, too.
Though on the other hand she is trying to play to the rules and to find a way to somehow live within that corset, and she would not let him see just how much he impresses her.
Part of the temptation he is, is the subtle promise of freedom and living from her own soul, instead from social rules.
In a way he offers her that, though it comes as a challenge of course, and she will need to take a leap of faith, to leave her old life behind, cause her freedom doesn`t lie in her past but somewhere unknown.
Does she follow him?
Nope, of course not! She is stubborn, and still influenced by the society that has been bringing her up.
Most probably he is going to kidnap her, somehow tear her from the normal and familiar circumstances, and she is fighting him, but of course she also is falling for him. Hard.

Oh crap, that reminds me I need to continue that pirate-fanfiction I started YEARS ago.

Also I just realize even though I usually have written about vampires, THIS is a core of my writing.
This desire for freedom, raw and genuine soul, no matter how scary it might seem. REALNESS (as in: emotional authencity).

Of course maybe I simply have been watching too many of these pirate movies on sundays when I was a child. You know with Errol Flynn adn Douglas Fairbanks and however they were called.
I LOVED these so much!
I always wanted to be that feisty, stubborn woman, but who would be able to change her set ways, if falling in love deeply enough.

Actually I was dressing up as a pirate and a gypsy repeatedly when all the other girls wanted to be a princess. LOL

I guess that was how I could manifest my Sagittarianness, in a Virgoan household (not only Virgo, there is SCorpio and Cancer in my mom as well, and luckily at least my Dad has Aquarius-energy. lol OH well my mom has Uranus in 1st house, but still so much virgo quality - I never even realized how much Sagittarius-energy I was having)

posted August 27, 2012 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
BML from the additional objects box
Asteroid lilith 1181
h13 Osculating Lunar Apogee ("True" Lilith / Black Moon) h21 Interpolated Lunar Apogee (Lilith), also called 'Natural Apoge

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Hmmmm...
From da box: 20 Aquarius
h13: 29 Aquarius
Asteroid: 24 Leo
Waldemath: 29 Gemini

posted August 27, 2012 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ail221:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by ueharaa:
[b] No I don't, which is what I find odd too. My venus square pluto by sign though but definitely not by orb.
The closest to this I can find is I have Sun/Uranus conjunction on my Venus/Mars midpoint.
Sappho conjuncts my Sun
and Juno conjuncts pluto (>3°orb) vesta square pluto.

I cried too when watching the Notebook because after all love is beautiful but I like spicier stories.

Yes Elizabeth taylor had all those aspects. with moon trine pluto and quincunx her venus/uranus conjunction.

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There is also the Waldemath's moon http://darkstarastrology.com/waldemath/ which is h58 at astro.
Mine is in leo, in the 1t house, opposing my venus and trining my mars.

I find it to sort of make sense actually. [/B][/QUOTE]

posted August 27, 2012 04:23 PM            

That is, he's not a knight looking for a hapless princess in distress, in the fairy tales they'd face off against the dragon together and that she stood with him rather than behind him would make him love her all the more. And then they'd find their own place in the world rather than trying to grab it by the throat (and thus biting off more than they can chew and/or losing their souls to gain the world) or selling out to it.

posted August 27, 2012 05:35 PM            

It's like how people get this idea that they want to go live in hollywood and lead a glamorous life. Madame bovary was a victim of glamorization.

oh and: Sun Cap, Libra ASC, Venus Cap, Mars Sag, Moon Scorp

i love this pic it was on the cover, it really conveys her bitter bored attitude.

posted August 27, 2012 06:16 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Very interesting initially your storyline sounds like the beginning of the Pirates of the Caribbean series LOL.

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That would only be true if the girl went for Captain Jack instead of Orlando Bloom. And if Captain Jack were a little less disgusting (bad hygiene, and questionable morality). But yeah, I get what you mean.

Oh yeah, and I didn't mention in my last post about how I'd like a very clever and interesting plot to the story. Like there'd be a shocking plot twist to it. Almost like in the sixth sense movie (total mind f#$K), except there'd be a happy ending instead of a sad one.

I love supernatural, Sci Fi, fantasy type stuff when the plot is clever and well thought out. The story could be set in the distant past or the future, because I enjoy being taken into another world. I like a little darkness to the story as well, as long as the hero and heroine come out the other end alright. Darkness, torment, and forbidden love are only worth it if the story can have a happy ending.

posted August 27, 2012 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Ah, how sweet!
I LOVE that!
And don`t forget the sheltered princess has a n urge for an authentic life outside of "protocols" and she wants to be free and really FEEL alive.

Actually my princess would probably not be so much a princess, but even though being a princess, being somewhat a misfit in her social environment. Awkard maybe, too much thirst for independence for a woman, for REALNESS. REal, primal feelings, too.
Though on the other hand she is trying to play to the rules and to find a way to somehow live within that corset, and she would not let him see just how much he impresses her.
Part of the temptation he is, is the subtle promise of freedom and living from her own soul, instead from social rules.
In a way he offers her that, though it comes as a challenge of course, and she will need to take a leap of faith, to leave her old life behind, cause her freedom doesn`t lie in her past but somewhere unknown.
Does she follow him?
Nope, of course not! She is stubborn, and still influenced by the society that has been bringing her up.
Most probably he is going to kidnap her, somehow tear her from the normal and familiar circumstances, and she is fighting him, but of course she also is falling for him. Hard.

Oh crap, that reminds me I need to continue that pirate-fanfiction I started YEARS ago.

Also I just realize even though I usually have written about vampires, THIS is a core of my writing.
This desire for freedom, raw and genuine soul, no matter how scary it might seem. REALNESS (as in: emotional authencity).

Of course maybe I simply have been watching too many of these pirate movies on sundays when I was a child. You know with Errol Flynn adn Douglas Fairbanks and however they were called.
I LOVED these so much!
I always wanted to be that feisty, stubborn woman, but who would be able to change her set ways, if falling in love deeply enough.

Actually I was dressing up as a pirate and a gypsy repeatedly when all the other girls wanted to be a princess. LOL

I guess that was how I could manifest my Sagittarianness, in a Virgoan household (not only Virgo, there is SCorpio and Cancer in my mom as well, and luckily at least my Dad has Aquarius-energy. lol OH well my mom has Uranus in 1st house, but still so much virgo quality - I never even realized how much Sagittarius-energy I was having)

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Awesome.

Yeah, I could get into the idea of a misfit heroine as well. Someone that most other people just don't get... She might be opinionated, and has some type of mission (probably from my Sag planets)… Or too ethereal and sensitive, maybe even psychic (probably from my Cancer Moon)… Or people mistake her for stuck-up, when really she’s just reserved or shy (probably from my Capricorn Sun)… She feels misunderstood and frustrated… Of course, the hero ‘gets’ her. She might not trust him at first though. He challenges her sense of security somehow, but he also attracts her like no one else…

My hero is probably a combo of Sag and Aries with some Air and Water thrown in there. I see him as outgoing, passionate and quick-witted. And also deeply caring and protective.

Occasionally, I like watching/reading about Capricorn type heros even though I wouldn’t choose one for myself (being that I am one and feel I need more opposite qualities). Rather, I like when the hero is a Capricorn type and the heroine is more the outgoing energy in these types of stories. Like Lizzie Bennet and Mr. Darcy in ‘Pride and Prejudice’…. Where he is powerful, serious, and no-nonsense and she lights up his world with her spirited nature, sort of thing.

I also see the ‘Phantom of the Opera’ as a combo of Scorpio and Capricorn energy. Only I hate tragic endings. Of course I get why the ending needed to happen but usually I prefer happy ones.

The old movie ‘Harold and Maude’ is another example, and in this case, again, I understand the ending given the huge age difference between them.

How about you Ceri, I’m guessing some mixture involving Sag and Cap based on your chart for the hero?

posted August 27, 2012 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I loved that old Robin Hood movie with Errol Flynn.

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ME TOO!!!

The 1939 one with Olivia de Haviland, Basil Rathbone, Claude Rains, and Errol Flynn.

YES.

*squee*

posted August 27, 2012 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
ME TOO!!!

The 1939 one with Olivia de Haviland, Basil Rathbone, Claude Rains, and Errol Flynn.

YES.

*squee*

*sorry, I don't mean to get off-topic, but it's so rare that I find someone who likes some of the old movies that I like, so that made me happy

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posted August 27, 2012 08:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Ah, how sweet!
I LOVE that!
And don`t forget the sheltered princess has a n urge for an authentic life outside of "protocols" and she wants to be free and really FEEL alive.

Actually my princess would probably not be so much a princess, but even though being a princess, being somewhat a misfit in her social environment. Awkard maybe, too much thirst for independence for a woman, for REALNESS. REal, primal feelings, too.
Though on the other hand she is trying to play to the rules and to find a way to somehow live within that corset, and she would not let him see just how much he impresses her.
Part of the temptation he is, is the subtle promise of freedom and living from her own soul, instead from social rules.
In a way he offers her that, though it comes as a challenge of course, and she will need to take a leap of faith, to leave her old life behind, cause her freedom doesn`t lie in her past but somewhere unknown.
Does she follow him?
Nope, of course not! She is stubborn, and still influenced by the society that has been bringing her up.
Most probably he is going to kidnap her, somehow tear her from the normal and familiar circumstances, and she is fighting him, but of course she also is falling for him. Hard.

Oh crap, that reminds me I need to continue that pirate-fanfiction I started YEARS ago.

Also I just realize even though I usually have written about vampires, THIS is a core of my writing.
This desire for freedom, raw and genuine soul, no matter how scary it might seem. REALNESS (as in: emotional authencity).

Of course maybe I simply have been watching too many of these pirate movies on sundays when I was a child. You know with Errol Flynn adn Douglas Fairbanks and however they were called.
I LOVED these so much!
I always wanted to be that feisty, stubborn woman, but who would be able to change her set ways, if falling in love deeply enough.

Actually I was dressing up as a pirate and a gypsy repeatedly when all the other girls wanted to be a princess. LOL

I guess that was how I could manifest my Sagittarianness, in a Virgoan household (not only Virgo, there is SCorpio and Cancer in my mom as well, and luckily at least my Dad has Aquarius-energy. lol OH well my mom has Uranus in 1st house, but still so much virgo quality - I never even realized how much Sagittarius-energy I was having)

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posted August 27, 2012 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Hmmmm...
From da box: 20 Aquarius
h13: 29 Aquarius
Asteroid: 24 Leo
Waldemath: 29 Gemini

The fixed planets have some squares going on to Mars and Pluto. Waldemath is opposed NN and resting in my 7th house.
Looks like some relationship issues and stuffs, lol.

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posted August 27, 2012 08:35 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I just recalled, I very much like the Astrid-Paul connection in White Oleander (both the movie and the novel). And there's much in common with the Hunger Games for me in that the guy is a good, dependable ally in a hostile world but depends on her just as much as she depends on him. The guy (be it Peeta in THG or Paul in WO) is also laid back but not passive, accepting of the world but not giving in to it.

That is, he's not a knight looking for a hapless princess in distress, in the fairy tales they'd face off against the dragon together and that she stood with him rather than behind him would make him love her all the more. And then they'd find their own place in the world rather than trying to grab it by the throat (and thus biting off more than they can chew and/or losing their souls to gain the world) or selling out to it.

I'm also very fond of Oz in Buffy the Vampire Slayer for pretty much the same reason.

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posted August 27, 2012 08:37 PM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
i think i'd be tragic madame bovary. she made her life seem more fanciful tham it ever was. she dressed the best and tried to create some drama in her life because she wanted to live like high society. she ends up marrying a doctor whom she's not attracted to and has "passionate" affairs. i kinda feel for her and i really loved the book. she always wanted more never satiated, blinded by luxury. As a teen she read romance novels which filled her head with skewed notions of love. It made her seek the unattainable passions which the books portrayed.

It's like how people get this idea that they want to go live in hollywood and lead a glamorous life. Madame bovary was a victim of glamorization.

oh and: Sun Cap, Libra ASC, Venus Cap, Mars Sag, Moon Scorp

i love this pic it was on the cover, it really conveys her bitter bored attitude.

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posted August 27, 2012 08:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
That would only be true if the girl went for Captain Jack instead of Orlando Bloom. And if Captain Jack were a little less disgusting (bad hygiene, and questionable morality). But yeah, I get what you mean.

Oh yeah, and I didn't mention in my last post about how I'd like a very clever and interesting plot to the story. Like there'd be a shocking plot twist to it. Almost like in the sixth sense movie (total mind f#$K), except there'd be a happy ending instead of a sad one.

I love supernatural, Sci Fi, fantasy type stuff when the plot is clever and well thought out. The story could be set in the distant past or the future, because I enjoy being taken into another world. I like a little darkness to the story as well, as long as the hero and heroine come out the other end alright. Darkness, torment, and forbidden love are only worth it if the story can have a happy ending.

Apart from the grand epic fantasy type storyline above... I've also got something of a weakness for quirky, odd couple, type romantic comedies. Where the characters have very distinctive yet different personalities but they fall in love anyway. One example is "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (Although this is more a drama then a comedy). I know there are some other good examples of this, I just can't think of any right now.

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posted August 27, 2012 10:17 PM            

'Moonstruck' with Cher and Nicolas Cage.

'Say Anything' with John Cusack and Ione Sky.

'Untamed Heart' with Marisa Tomei and Christian Slater.

'When Harry Met Sally' with Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan.

'The Princess Bride' with Robin Wright and Cary Elwes. This one reminds me of my childhood, so the reason why I like it ties in a lot with my personal sentimentality.

When I was a really little kid I was also obsessed with the movie 'Splash' with Tom Hanks and Daryl Hannah. I made my Dad repeatedly rent it from the video store and watched it over and over again. I thought Daryl Hannah made a great mermaid.

More resent stuff that I've enjoyed is of course 'The Notebook', and the most recent adaptation of 'Pride and Prejudice' with Keira Knightley. The 1995 miniseries with Colin Firth was awesome as well.

Also enjoyed 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind'.

'Before Sunrise' with Ethan Hawk and Julie Delpy, and 'Before Sunset' the sequel.

These are the more well known movies that I've liked in the romance category, but of courses there are many more that are not so famous that I've really enjoyed. I can't think of any others right now but I've got the feeling I've left out some important ones.

posted August 27, 2012 10:31 PM            

Damon and Elena from 'Vampire Diaries'.

Angela Chase and Jordan Catalano form 'My So Called Life'. He wasn't the best boyfriend but, damn, he's good looking, and has the potential to improve. Actually, if Jordon hadn't been played by Jared Leto, I probably would have been an Angela/Brian fan. But Jared Leto's Mars is squares my Venus so I can't overlook Jorden no matter how good for Angela Brian might be.

House and Cuddy from 'House'. Too bad she left the show.

posted August 27, 2012 11:55 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Its still odd to believe the same actor who plays Oz is the creator of "Family Guy" whatever fantasy I had of him disappeared after that. But I do understand what your saying actually those self-sufficient female characters with equally strong partners seemed to be a theme throughout the whole "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" series. Buffy and Angel, Buffy and Spike despite the sadist,masochist sort of relationship they had, Tara and Willow, Willow and Oz etc. Well up until Buffy dated that military guy....

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I should amend that I'd NEVER put my love life into a Joss Whedon story. If you're familiar with his works you'll know why, it never ends well, and the better the love the worse it's going to end.

posted August 28, 2012 01:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Just thought of some other romantic movies from the 90's and 80's that I enjoyed.

'Moonstruck' with Cher and Nicolas Cage.

'Say Anything' with John Cusack and Ione Sky.

'Untamed Heart' with Marisa Tomei and Christian Slater.

'When Harry Met Sally' with Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan.

'The Princess Bride' with Robin Wright and Cary Elwes. This one reminds me of my childhood, so the reason why I like it ties in a lot with my personal sentimentality.

When I was a really little kid I was also obsessed with the movie 'Splash' with Tom Hanks and Daryl Hannah. I made my Dad repeatedly rent it from the video store and watched it over and over again. I thought Daryl Hannah made a great mermaid.

More resent stuff that I've enjoyed is of course 'The Notebook', and the most recent adaptation of 'Pride and Prejudice' with Keira Knightley. The 1995 miniseries with Colin Firth was awesome as well.

Also enjoyed 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind'.

'Before Sunrise' with Ethan Hawk and Julie Delpy, and 'Before Sunset' the sequel.

These are the more well known movies that I've liked in the romance category, but of courses there are many more that are not so famous that I've really enjoyed. I can't think of any others right now but I've got the feeling I've left out some important ones.

So if anyone wants to jog my memory with their own favorites.

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I am sickly attracted to Christian Slater in the "Heathers".

I really love Princess Bride, "Robin Hood Men in Tights", and Splash completely couples from two different worlds coming together. From the 90s aside from Titanic the romance-ish genre I liked was "Cruel Intentions" but that wasn't really a love story
LOL.

Tv relationships; Charmed - Phoebe and Cole,it was dark, passion literally from hell and back.
Buffy The Vampire Slayer- Buffy and Angel
Roswell- Max and Liz

posted August 29, 2012 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I am sickly attracted to Christian Slater in the "Heathers".

I really love Princess Bride, "Robin Hood Men in Tights", and Splash completely couples from two different worlds coming together. From the 90s aside from Titanic the romance-ish genre I liked was "Cruel Intentions" but that wasn't really a love story
LOL.

Tv relationships; Charmed - Phoebe and Cole,it was dark, passion literally from hell and back.
Buffy The Vampire Slayer- Buffy and Angel
Roswell- Max and Liz

Supernatural genre shows had better relationships to be. Bleh to "Friends"

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Loved the Movie 'Heathers' only it's hardly romantic.Sick is definitely the right word for Christian Slater's character in this Movie. He thought that death was cool... Pluto Square Sun, and Mars opposite Uranus, in his chart would make sense.

I found Buffy interesting with both Angel and Spike. I think Angel was more like her true love, and that while she eventually cared for Spike and had passion with him, I don't think she was ever madly in love with him like she was with Angel. I always thought Buffy was a combo of Aries and Libra (bad a$$, as well as fashionable and girly), that Angel was a Taurus/Scorpio type (mysterious and tormented yet stable), and that Spike was a Gemini (didn't seem to take much seriously, had a wit on him).

Used to watch Roswell back in the day.... I actually didn't find Max and Liz that interesting as a couple. They didn't contrast each other very much, apart from her being human and him being alien they seemed too similar for me to be an interesting couple.... They reminded me of an Earth sign trine relationship like Capricorn (Max) and Taurus (Liz). Even though I know the actors were a Cap and Sag their characters weren't portrayed that way... I still liked the show though, and I had a thing for Michael.

More everyone!