posted September 03, 2012 06:42 AM            

How do you use BML in a chart? Could you give some specifics, please?

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posted September 03, 2012 07:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Lotis White,

I think anything a bit out of the mainstream (if we can even define what this is) is getting located to the asteroid forum (like fixed stars as well, or Draconic charts etc.)

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posted September 03, 2012 07:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thanks for explaining about BML. I didn't know that. Lala is the Mod of this Forum, so she or Randall will decide what to do.

How do you use BML in a chart? Could you give some specifics, please?

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Ami,

posted September 03, 2012 09:38 AM            

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I’ve just started taking more of an interest in The Black Moon Lilith, and here’s the impression that I’ve got so far…

The Black Moon is the apogee of the Moons orbit, the point that is farthest from the earth. While the Moon itself represents something safe and familiar that gives us a feeling of security, the point of orbit for the Moon that is farthest form the earth itself (The Black Moon Lilith) is more like an anti-Moon… And opposite to the Moon in symbolism in many ways… It represents something dark, scary, and unknown but also fascinating.

In terms of image for women, the Moon represents what type of girl feels safe, familiar, nurturing, and vulnerable to a guy… Basically the good girl that he can trust, wants to marry, and protect and take care of… The girl who will (in theory) respect, and look up to him… The Moon supports the Sun and follows his lead… She is the Mother/Wife archetype…. Trusted, known, safe, innocent… (Now if a guy has a challenged Moon, his idea of what feels ‘safe’ and ‘familiar’ about a girl might be messed up… But that’s a whole other thread).

Lilith is the opposite… The women who is unfathomable, dangerous, rebellious and sexual… Here rather then the Wife/Mother (Moon), or even the Beautiful Maiden/Girlfriend (Venus)… You have the mistress, the forbidden lover, the hooker, the ’bad girl’, and the manipulative witchy vixen…. A women who’s unpredictable, mysterious, and probably into something dark or taboo… Like black magic… She might be a scandalous b!tch… And yet she has an unattainable kind of allure about her… She’s like a guilty pleasure….

In terms of women’s roles… The Moon is the girl a guy wants to protect, Venus is the fair beauty the he goes wild for, Neptune is ethereal glamour ideal that enchants him… And if the Lilith does say something about a guys taste in women, it probably relates to what type of girl is like a secret guilty pleasure for him… Bewitching but dangerous or unattainable somehow.

Ha ha. There are few songs that come to mind right now in relation to The Black Moon Lilith energy… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAJxOU13SKk
All American Rejects - ‘Dirty Little Secret’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9qeJskx6r0
Black Sabbath - ‘Evil Women’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkKxGzm98AU
Edwyn Collins - 'A Girl Like You' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMAo0m4E4Lc
Atlanta Rhythm Section - Spooky (This version is sung by men which seems more appropriate then the Dusty Springfield one)

If you have Lilith synastry with someone it makes sense that in a way the Lilith person would seem like a dark temptation to the planet person.

When someone aspects your Lilith they 'activate' this side of you, and they can pick up on the energy you're giving off... On the other hand... When you aspect someone else's Lilith you 'activate' this energy for them, so their planet/point may effect you in a Lilith kind of way...

I don't think Lilith always refers to the mistress (but she definitely can), so much as she seems to refer to a women who is darkly attractive but also unattainable... Or even just a women with a creepy, spooky vibe about her... She makes him suspicious, she keeps him on his toes, and he wonders what she's thinking. She's exciting and dosen't reveal all her secrets. And he may find her tempting on an erotic level.

My thoughts are that when a guy has his Lilith aspected in synastry it contributes to him finding her intriguing, and erotically exciting. And that when a women has her Lilith aspected she tends to act out this type of role for him... So regardless of who has their Lilith aspected it would create a similar effect. Unless, of course, the male in the relationship takes on a Lilith role... In which case, he may seem difficult to figure out and yet frustratingly attractive at the same time.

In each relationship depending on the rest on the synastry, and where the individual people are at, we need to use our own observation and common sense to figure out exactly how the energy is playing out.

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Hopefully this was useful.

posted September 03, 2012 09:42 AM            

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posted September 03, 2012 07:04 PM            

I see Lilith as being the side of women that we are often taught to repress - like the shadow side. So if you can accept and integrate BML energy then you find a deeper sense of feminine balance. I would see it the same way for men when their Lilith is activated in synastry - a powerful feminine force but how they interpret that energy would be similar to what you were saying about the Moon in man's chart and if it were challenged or not.

And to add to that, how we manifest our own Lilith may be tied to how we see our own light and dark feminine nature as women.

posted September 03, 2012 07:16 PM            

Also...

posted September 03, 2012 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
the threads have been re-opened

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posted September 03, 2012 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
I agree with a lot of what has been written here, but my take on Lilith is maybe a little more...maybe feminist, in nature. I see BML as being dark in a sense, but not in an negative way (in general). More in a transformational and powerful kind of way.

I see Lilith as being the side of women that we are often taught to repress - like the shadow side. So if you can accept and integrate BML energy then you find a deeper sense of feminine balance. I would see it the same way for men when their Lilith is activated in synastry - a powerful feminine force but how they interpret that energy would be similar to what you were saying about the Moon in man's chart and if it were challenged or not.

And to add to that, how we manifest our own Lilith may be tied to how we see our own light and dark feminine nature as women.

Just my two cents

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