posted September 06, 2012 08:40 AM            

If your Sun is within this orb, would you please add that, for me.
Thanks in advance!

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posted September 06, 2012 08:42 AM            

I will start a new thread on this.

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posted September 06, 2012 10:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful Disaster:
Sun in gemini 12th house here. I didn't have my father very long. He died when I was 4 from suicide. We do however still have a bond. I feel him and his love and I know when he is around me. I once read in our synastry chart that we would have a bond even beyond this world.

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I am sorry, dear one. I lost someone to suicide, as well. Blessings to you

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posted September 06, 2012 11:08 AM            

Her sun is in his 12th house.

That explains a lot.

He hasn't seen her in 8 months.

Just stopped.

She's always been his secret child.

He use to be a good dad.

I think he's definitely gone for good now

Her sun is in gemini 25 degrees and her asc is sagittarius 4 degrees.

She has her moon in scorpio in the 12th house. Her father is a scorpio

;(

posted September 06, 2012 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful Disaster:
Ooops forgot to add. Sun 27 degrees and asc in cancer 27 degress.

Its tough ami. But time heals all wounds. We learn to live without them but never forget them.

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We have Sun conjunct Sun! xx

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posted September 06, 2012 11:32 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
...hi there brother Gemini ...i'm also a Gemini (Sun in 12 house at 15 degrees) with Cancer ASC... sorry about your loss... but before i continue - in what date was your father born?

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I'm a sister lol. Cool I love meeting people with my placements.

My fathers dob was april 15, 1955

posted September 06, 2012 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

We have Sun conjunct Sun! xx

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posted September 06, 2012 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful Disaster:

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LOL

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posted September 06, 2012 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful Disaster:

I'm a sister lol. Cool I love meeting people with my placements.

My fathers dob was april 15, 1955

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...another sister - yay!^^ - that's ok to... Ami Anne is another Gemini sister with 12H Sun.

- well, my father was born in 15 May - and just wanted to know if he falls under the influence of Algol... maybe a victim like those born in 14 -> 18 August, 14 -> 18 February, 14 -> 18 November... or an ally like those born in 14 -> 18 September and 14 -> 18 January ... wile 14 - 18 May is in top of the list as executioner - but this goes both ways...

- my father is still alive - and i don't wish him death or anything like that ... i still believe that - "he's not really a bad man (didn't abuse any member of my family in a physical way)" - not a good father either, but i've seen worst to fit this spot - except for his Algolian influence which made/makes him behave like - a Nazi sometimes... where me and my mom were the Jews... but mostly from a psychological point of view...

posted September 06, 2012 01:47 PM            

I know that he has had issues with his dad. His Sun squares his Scorpio Moon as well. His dad is a Scorpio which seems to intensify the effect that maybe because of his dad, he has had to push away his true emotions? I also feel this placement shows that his dad has been very moody and unstable in his life... his dad has been a consistent provider but emotionally he is just so up and down.

posted September 06, 2012 02:31 PM            

Shhh! ^^

posted September 06, 2012 03:19 PM            

I have never met my biological father, as the circumstances are very negative. He was my mother's brother in law and more than two decades older. The drama surrounding his incestful seduction of her while being married to her sibling was/is a deep familial wound.

My mother refuses to this date to speak very little of him, and he has never sought me out. I have not sought him out as he was never in my life, and to me my father who raised me is my true father.

I am curious as to his birthdate for astrological purposes, and wish to ask around for it form my halfsiblings, but am afraid as he returned to his spouse and is still in a sense part of the extended family.

He and the extended family live abroad, therefore keeping him out of my life has been an easy task. I didn't know the story until my early teens, and was very traumatized and sad over it for years after, as it felt my world collapsed to know my father was not my father.

I felt robbed of my identity fell apart, my beloved family decieved me. I withdrew from my family for a few years, and it took a lot to come to terms with the deception. It hurt not that I was different from my siblings, but that my mother lied to me for years and that I learned the truth through a third party instead of her.

Now my father who raised me, is my beloved father and my hero. He was very strict and disciplined very hard, almost on border of physical abuse. He was very domineering, and controlling to the point that I left our home at a young age rather than to continue living under that repression.

In spite of this, I do feel he is a good dad and did what he was taught to do. He has changed a lot since those days, and I hold him no resent. He did much to provide for us and teach us wrong from right, and I've always been closer to him than my mother. In the hardest times of my life, my father has been the one to be there for me, when others including my mother were not.

posted September 06, 2012 10:03 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
...another sister - yay!^^ - that's ok to... Ami Anne is another Gemini sister with 12H Sun.

- well, my father was born in 15 May - and just wanted to know if he falls under the influence of Algol... maybe a victim like those born in 14 -> 18 August, 14 -> 18 February, 14 -> 18 November... or an ally like those born in 14 -> 18 September and 14 -> 18 January ... wile 14 - 18 May is in top of the list as executioner - but this goes both ways...

- my father is still alive - and i don't wish him death or anything like that ... i still believe that - "he's not really a bad man (didn't abuse any member of my family in a physical way)" - not a good father either, but i've seen worst to fit this spot - except for his Algolian influence which made/makes him behave like - a Nazi sometimes... where me and my mom were the Jews... but mostly from a psychological point of view...

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No, I have a 9th House Gemini Sun lol

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posted September 06, 2012 10:53 PM            

My Sun also squares Saturn, so my dad definitely is a significant force in my life. He never completely abandoned my siblings and me, though there was one time where he briefly left us because of my mom. That experience was probably one of the most traumatic. It's a tough memory, one that I can't fully recall, because I've repressed it.

posted September 07, 2012 04:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

No, I have a 9th House Gemini Sun lol

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Oh... my bad... that would make a "spiritual" sister... ^^

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Originally posted by Beautiful Disaster:
Forgot to mention my North node is in cancer also in the 12th house.

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...mine is in Gemini, if you're not so sure of your NN meaning - here - check this ebook (best around in terms of NN/SN and House placements): www.godthearchitect.com/ebook/Nodes-Sign-House-Aspect.pdf - and i recommend "Martin Schulman" interpretations... you don't have to read it all - only what interests, easier to find by subject:

Natal North Node in Cancer / South in Capricorn

Natal North Node in 12th / South in 6th

posted September 07, 2012 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
I've noticed that in *most* of the charts I've read, people with a 12th house Sun usually lose (through death or abandonment for some reason) one or both parents at an early age or are raised by other family members (grandparent, aunt, etc) or are adopted.

I think if the Sun is in H12 and makes a hard aspect to Mars, Saturn, Uranus or Pluto then that hard aspect can clarify the situation based on both planet and the house in which it resides.

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Well said! xx

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