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Ami Anne
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posted September 06, 2012 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please share, if you have this placement. Again, I count a planet which is within 10 degrees of the ASC, as first house. Please, add this, if you could. Thank you

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 06, 2012 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My wife's moon is in her 12th House. She had a great relationship with her late mother.

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posted September 06, 2012 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My wife's moon is in her 12th House. She had a great relationship with her late mother.

Is it within 10 degrees of the ASC, Ian?

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posted September 06, 2012 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon Gemini 19°31'51 in house 12 direct

No idea what that means lol

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posted September 06, 2012 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Moon Gemini 19°31'51 in house 12 direct

No idea what that means lol


What is her ASC--sign and degree?

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posted September 06, 2012 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I consider my Moon being in 12th house (by equal house system!) , because i relate to it more.

So - my relationshio with my mother.. she's being overly protective, when i was a teenager, she'd never allow me to go out with friends, actually she even didn't want me to have any, i think. I can't talk to her openly about things that bother me - about my friends, about guys, for the obvious reasons. She doesn't know anything about my love life and i think i'm going to introduce her to somebody only when i'm getting married, no earlier.

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posted September 06, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a really rocky patch with my mom during my teen years from about 14 to like 17. I have a really rebellious streak and just wanted to do what i wanted. My first semester in hs I wanted to know what it was like to cut school, so I took it really far and cut every day first semester and failed every class, when I got my report card I had all f's, for some reason I was dumb founded. I cleaned my act up real quick because i had no intention of spending an extra min in hs. I did some other messed up things that's my mom could have put me out for during that time but she never did it, just punished the hell out of me. But i learned my lesson and stopped doing dumb stuff, simple as that. One thing i can say is she always gave me plenty freedom, so really I didn't have to rebel. She has Always has been there for me, very nurturing especally in my later years when life has gotten a bit more complicated for me. We are really tight now and talk often, she has been so helpful since I moved out the house. I know we're only going to continue to get tighter. She never pressures me. She just accepts me.

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posted September 06, 2012 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why do you count something 10 degrees away from a house in the next house?

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posted September 06, 2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Cancer moon is in the 12th opposite Saturn 0* and Uranus 2* but sexile Sun/Mercury closely. My relationship with my mom has been difficult to say the least. Growing up, she was attentive to the physical needs like clothing and food, but I always felt like I shouldn't have other needs beyond those. I never felt accepted or appreciated. I felt like unless I was the absolute best at all times, I was unlovable, and she reinforced that mentality a lot. I was a somewhat chubby kid, not by American standards, but by Russian standards. I wasn't that big, but there wasn't a day that went by that she didn't comment on how fat I was, she would give my little sister bigger portions than me, and I obtained a very secret obsession with food, and used it as my "forbidden comfort". I hated going shopping because every little thing that didn't fit, was commented on. Beyond that, she was incredibly exacting. I was naturally a responsible kid, I watched over my little sister, home alone since I was a little under 4 and she was a little under 2. She had no choice but to work, but she worked really near by and checked up on us at least once per shift. I was also really helpful and did dishes, cleaned, gave her massages, brushed her hair, and I loved taking care of those I loved, but I was really young, and really unappreciated. I don't even remember doing some of the things I did, she just tells me about it all now. Instead of acknowledging my contribution, she demanded more, I remember that, and I eventually started seeing her as a demanding and whiny individual. My teenage years, were pretty much the same, except by the time I was 14, I stopped cleaning as much, and started reading and keeping to myself more, and she just wouldn't have it. It ****** my parents off that I wasn't doing something and just reading (and not their precious Bible). I think that was perceived as rebellion, but I just really wanted a chance to get to know myself. I just wanted to be like other kids who were care free and knew what made them happy, knew what they wanted, even if to me they seemed bratty. I wish I could have had a social life outside my family, I think both my sister and I would have benefited from that in a positive way. To escape the oppression, I got married to my first real boyfriend at the age of just turning 17, and went from my parents being demanding and abusive (they unrealistically strict) to him, who abused me as well.

I am now a parent myself, I have spent the last couple of years getting to know myself, and even though it feels selfish, I really think this will ultimately save me so I can build a strong foundation for my own, and my daughters future. Being a parent myself, I know she made many sacrifices for us. My parents left the comfort of their country to give my sister and I a better chance at having a better life than they did. I don't blame my mom for my pain, she grew up in far worse conditions, i'm just sad I didn't find a way to communicate with her, and make her aware of how sensitive I really am.

I learned to be forgiving. My sisters resentment towards my dad is eating her up, while I am building a relationship with both my parents on my terms now. Interestingly, my dad has a cancer Sun that falls into my 12th, and my moms Taurus sun falls in my 10th conjunct my Jupiter. Her natal Sun is exactly on my Draco sun, and my natal sun s exactly conjunct her SN.

In general, a 12th house moon represents either a cruel, demanding, emotionally or physically absent or unsupportive mother or a very sacrificing one.

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posted September 06, 2012 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuranian:
why do you count something 10 degrees away from a house in the next house?


Something 10 degrees away from the ASC is conjunct the ASC( believed to be the case with many Astrologers)
These 2 placements are VERY, VERY different, so one must ascertain which it is.

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posted September 06, 2012 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should also add that I probably wouldn't like myself much if I hadn't grown up in the environment that I did. I have Leo rising, and a strong Sun, and I can definitely see how I could have been a selfish, careless, egotistical, shallow, what have you person. Instead, I have compassion, and understanding, and a strong need to care for others.

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posted September 06, 2012 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 5Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a horrible relationship with my mother and my Moon resides in 12th house.

I also have a heavily afflicted Moon.

Although my mother loves me dearly and I hate saying this but she always acted cruel and malicious towards me. Then again she lost her first daughter to cancer...thats my input

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posted September 06, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lava Flower:
I should also add that I probably wouldn't like myself much if I hadn't grown up in the environment that I did. I have Leo rising, and a strong Sun, and I can definitely see how I could have been a selfish, careless, egotistical, shallow, what have you person. Instead, I have compassion, and understanding, and a strong need to care for others.

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posted September 06, 2012 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is her ASC--sign and degree?


ASC is Cancer. Ascendant Cancer 8°01'11

Whatever that means

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posted September 06, 2012 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
ASC is Cancer. Ascendant Cancer 8°01'11

Whatever that means


OK She is a true 12th House Moon( as I look at it)
Ian, do you think her relationship with her mother was hard, though, even if it was close?

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posted September 06, 2012 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK She is a true 12th House Moon( as I look at it)
Ian, do you think her relationship with her mother was hard, though, even if it was close?


Yes generally. She had a hard time with her parents. Don't forget she got molested and assaulted by her mother's youngest brother. And her parents blamed her as well, instead of reporting the pervert to authorities. That pervert went on to rape two of her cousins. After that, he went to divinity school and then became an ordained pastor ministering to children here and Latin America, and suddenly he decided that he wanted to become a truck driver. Life is really fair, isn't it?

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posted September 06, 2012 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Technically, I have a Leo moon at the end of my 11th house, but I relate to it more in the 12th house. I don't know if it's because I already have a somewhat loaded 12th house, or because my moon conjuncts chiron, or what.

My parents divorced when I was 10 (now 21) and we've had a nonexistant or terrible relationship since then. My parents divorced because she had an affair with a man on the internet. She met with him and was speaking to him constantly for about 3 months before my dad found out. I feel like she's somewhat held a grudge against me because I was the one who told my dad about it. She'd always talk to me about the guys she'd meet or get me to take pictures of her to post online, so I knew about it for a little while. She moved about 4 hours away, so we mostly talked through the phone. Except that was pretty rare. She never really tried to talk to me, though she did with my sister. So, the only time I really spent with her was the weekend we'd go down to her house every other month. And that didn't even always happen. Even when she still lived with us, I never really felt comfortable around her. I don't remember ever spending any time with her and actually enjoying it. I don't even remember doing anything with her because she was always emotionally unavailable and on the computer. She once told me that she never felt a bond with me, even when I was a baby, so maybe she felt that same way? I don't know, but I was down at her house over Christmas about 6 years ago and we got into a huge fight and our relationship was off and on for a while. I started working and claimed myself on my taxes and she called me up and yelled at me because she wanted to claim me to get more money. Then a whole bunch of other nonsense occured & after that we've essentially had no relationship. We both sent nasty emails to each other for a while, but once that stopped we didn't speak for almost 3 years. We are somewhat cordial at this point and talk when absolutely necessary, but I know it'll never amount to anything. As sad as that is.

Sorry for the book lol. Guess I needed to get that out.

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