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asclibrasagsun
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posted September 07, 2012 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do no planets in the 5th or 7th house of a couple's composite chart indicate that there is no prospect of a romantic relationship forming? (obviously I know it depends a lot on the other placements and synastry) but generally speaking would you say so?

For example, I have my Venus in his 10th house (do not understand the implication here) but his is in my 4th! (YES, he makes me feel at home). So would I for example, be a woman he would love speaking just based on this aspect?


I have heard something about Venus in 10th house of a partner as being some type of trophy wife, but I never thought of a Venus in the 10th house as a romantic placement.

Can someone figure it out?

Are the 5th and 7th houses really necessary for a romantic relationship?

Thank you

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posted September 07, 2012 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 07, 2012 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would look to see what the rulers are doing for the H5/7..
What would be more telling.

Planets dont always hit in those houses.. But its a plus.. But checking rulers can show something different.

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posted September 07, 2012 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I would look to see what the rulers are doing for the H5/7..
What would be more telling.

Planets dont always hit in those houses.. But its a plus.. But checking rulers can show something different.


That makes sense, thank you for pointing it out.

I just checked and the ruler for the 5th house is Taurus and for the 7th house it is Gemini.

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posted September 07, 2012 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See what Venus and Mercury are doing in the chart.
Are they aspecting each other?
Also I believe you look at the H8 ruler

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posted September 07, 2012 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
See what Venus and Mercury are doing in the chart.
Are they aspecting each other?
Also I believe you look at the H8 ruler

Funny you asked that. Venus and mercury are conjunct at a 2 degree orb. The 8th house ruler is leo and my pluto is in his 8th house.

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posted September 07, 2012 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Funny you asked that. Venus and mercury are conjunct at a 2 degree orb. The 8th house ruler is leo and my pluto is in his 8th house.

The pluto in his 8th would be generational. Unless you two have a big age difference.

But yeah I assume the composite H5/H7 rulers being conjunct could show a relationship..

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posted September 07, 2012 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
The pluto in his 8th would be generational. Unless you two have a big age difference.

But yeah I assume the composite H5/H7 rulers being conjunct could show a relationship..


we have a huge age difference. it would not be generational then right?

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posted September 07, 2012 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
we have a huge age difference. it would not be generational then right?

Its still generational, but in my opinion it would have more of an effect if he never dated anyone in your generation.. Especially if your pluto is hitting his personal planets..
He wouldnt be "use to" that energy.

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posted September 08, 2012 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Its still generational, but in my opinion it would have more of an effect if he never dated anyone in your generation.. Especially if your pluto is hitting his personal planets..
He wouldnt be "use to" that energy.

I see what you mean. Thank you for your help too

One last thing, we got Sun in Sagittarius in the 12th house and Pluto in the 10th house. THIS CANNOT BE GOOD RIGHT?

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posted September 08, 2012 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
I see what you mean. Thank you for your help too

One last thing, we got Sun in Sagittarius in the 12th house and Pluto in the 10th house. THIS CANNOT BE GOOD RIGHT?


Is it a secret?

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posted September 08, 2012 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Is it a secret?

How did you know

Lol yes

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posted September 08, 2012 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
How did you know

Lol yes


Sun in H12...

H12 is the house of things hidden..

Im not sure about Pluto in H10 but Im thinking if people find out, it could be some sort of power struggle... Or some heavy drama...

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posted September 08, 2012 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To add to that: it is a secret but we are not in a romantic relationship perse, it is just a secret friendship - which of course I desire for it to turn into a romantic relationship. But it is a friendship that we are "not supposed to have".

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posted September 08, 2012 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Sun in H12...

H12 is the house of things hidden..

Im not sure about Pluto in H10 but Im thinking if people find out, it could be some sort of power struggle... Or some heavy drama...


Yep, the sun is a give away. With pluto in the 10th - I read that it will bring heavy drama to the community indeed. Interesting.

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posted September 08, 2012 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
To add to that: it is a secret but we are not in a romantic relationship perse, it is just a secret friendship - which of course I desire for it to turn into a romantic relationship. But it is a friendship that we are "not supposed to have".

I understand.. I have a secret relationship going on also... Sun/Merc in H12
Started off as friends..
We are co-workers which is why its a secret..
Im a mgr and he an employee.

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posted September 08, 2012 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I understand.. I have a secret relationship going on also... Sun/Merc in H12
Started off as friends..
We are co-workers which is why its a secret..
Im a mgr and he an employee.

We are almost in the same position, not co-workers though (little bit more strict).

But do you know what in the composite propels the 10th and 12th houses acting out? Like our crazyness has been going on for over a year now. I think we experience such deep emotions for one another but still nothing. I wonder what is blocking it.

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posted September 08, 2012 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
We are almost in the same position, not co-workers though (little bit more strict).

But do you know what in the composite propels the 10th and 12th houses acting out? Like our crazyness has been going on for over a year now. I think we experience such deep emotions for one another but still nothing. I wonder what is blocking it.


Saturn delays..
Check to see what Transit Saturn is delaying in the composite.
Also see if T. Saturn is doing to your synastry (natals)

With mine.. We had a short fling, ended it became friends, ended the friendship... Became friends again.. Then became even closer, begin an intense romance...
Ive backed away from it for now... But we still talk everyday..


Ill be back a bit later.. I gotta eat something..

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posted September 08, 2012 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post the composite

with vertex,destinn, karma.

Im interested in looking

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posted September 08, 2012 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Post the composite

with vertex,destinn, karma.

Im interested in looking


Here it is, unfortunately from what I see on astro.com - (where I got the visual chart) destinn and karma aren't available. I did put the vertex in though

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posted September 08, 2012 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looked like what I put in on astro.com changed, because I had the original report from grupovenus and that's what I was going off of earlier

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posted September 08, 2012 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
It looked like what I put in on astro.com changed, because I had the original report from grupovenus and that's what I was going off of earlier

nevermind - it is correct, long day - I am confusing myself lol

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posted September 08, 2012 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Saturn delays..
Check to see what Transit Saturn is delaying in the composite.
Also see if T. Saturn is doing to your synastry (natals)

With mine.. We had a short fling, ended it became friends, ended the friendship... Became friends again.. Then became even closer, begin an intense romance...
Ive backed away from it for now... But we still talk everyday..


Ill be back a bit later.. I gotta eat something..


That's interesting! I wonder what will happen with you two next

So I looked at the transits and we will have saturn conjunct moon starting September 28th of this year, looks to be significant

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posted September 08, 2012 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think anything will happen as long as T.Saturn is near the moon...

If anything happens it will be once Saturn moves away from the moon...

With mine, we also have a Libra moon. Nothing happen for 2 years.. Not until T.Saturn moved away from the moon..
Maybe around the time when T. Saturn gets around 7 Scop when it sextiles Composite Venus.

As for Karma and Destinn you have to put in the asteroid numbers in the little box

3811,6583
Copy this into the white long box

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posted September 08, 2012 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I dont think anything will happen as long as T.Saturn is near the moon...

If anything happens it will be once Saturn moves away from the moon...

With mine, we also have a Libra moon. Nothing happen for 2 years.. Not until T.Saturn moved away from the moon..
Maybe around the time when T. Saturn gets around 7 Scop when it sextiles Composite Venus.

As for Karma and Destinn you have to put in the asteroid numbers in the little box

3811,6583
Copy this into the white long box


Here it is, updated with the asteroids

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