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Moonfish
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posted September 08, 2012 01:39 PM
  
It was brought to my attention that many people don't use Semisquares and SesquiQuadrate in charts, especially Synastry.
However, looking at my parent's chart, I couldn't understand how there relationship related to there synastry. They had a difficult marriage, very aggressive and hostile. Yet they had tons trines and conjunctions specifically between the Sun, Moon, Jupiter, Venus, and Neptune. There only major square (within 3degs) was between Mars-Neptune. It wasn't until I looked at the minor aspects, that it seemed to make sense.
They shared - Mars quincunx Pluto, Mars semi-square Pluto, and Sun semi-square Mars double whammy. So anyone who believes in the minor orbs, just how powerful is the Semisquare?
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vickymadness
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posted September 08, 2012 02:36 PM
whenever I find semi-square I check the " square" reading and it always turns out to be exactly the same.
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RedScorp
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posted September 08, 2012 03:15 PM
^I have Saturn semi-square the Capricorn Stellium...I was never sure what the meaning might be but perhaps I should just check the square reading, see what's what!IP: Logged |
quinnlycanastro
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posted September 08, 2012 03:26 PM
The semi-square is said to act like a weaker version of the square. I don't pay much attention to them but I always look at the quincunx and the sesquiquadrate. With the sesquiquadrate I'm generally on the look out to see if it forms a Thor's hammer which are notoriously challenging. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted September 08, 2012 03:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by vickymadness:
whenever I find semi-square I check the " square" reading and it always turns out to be exactly the same.
Uranus Square Pluto: You live in a time of such drastic upheaval that you never feel secure, even if you're affluent. Your life is often interrupted by war, natural disaster, economic collapse and revolution. You have a strong tendency to reform the established order and your motives and ideals are worthy, but you can be willful, eccentric, revolutionary or have radical political tendencies. This aspect indicates how mass destiny affects you and in what areas it manifests. You can be a fighter of injustice or let others do it. Your intense self-preservation instinct can make you thoughtless, impatient, combative and unable to compromise. Sudden emotional outbursts are a result of inner tension. Women tend to resent the inferior role they feel they have. You have serious lessons to learn regarding sexual function. IP: Logged |
Gray
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posted September 08, 2012 03:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moonfish:
It was brought to my attention that many people don't use Semisquares and SesquiQuadrate in charts, especially Synastry.
However, looking at my parent's chart, I couldn't understand how there relationship related to there synastry. They had a difficult marriage, very aggressive and hostile. Yet they had tons trines and conjunctions specifically between the Sun, Moon, Jupiter, Venus, and Neptune. There only major square (within 3degs) was between Mars-Neptune. It wasn't until I looked at the minor aspects, that it seemed to make sense.
They shared - Mars quincunx Pluto, Mars semi-square Pluto, and Sun semi-square Mars double whammy. So anyone who believes in the minor orbs, just how powerful is the Semisquare?
Nope, you're on your own with that one. I've never seen anyone at the moderate level of astrology ever reference semi-squares in synastry. I've especially never seen a pro do it either. The most I've seen is discussion of them in relation to natal charts, only. And even then they're referred to sparingly - and usually ignored altogether, which makes sense considering they're one of the weakest, minor aspects. IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
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posted September 08, 2012 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by quinnlycanastro:
The semi-square is said to act like a weaker version of the square. I don't pay much attention to them but I always look at the quincunx and the sesquiquadrate. With the sesquiquadrate I'm generally on the look out to see if it forms a Thor's hammer which are notoriously challenging.
...at tight orbs - can be the equivalent of major aspects. IP: Logged |
slowpoke
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posted September 08, 2012 04:40 PM
Try here too.Slowpoke's: Synastry Aspects - Void of Planet Linkages
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/214576.html slowpoke IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted September 10, 2012 03:07 AM
This came up in another thread and I thought maybe you could use it? Posted by Xiiro, in response to my bringing up of my natal Saturn semi-square Moon stellium: quote:
My understanding of the difference between Octiles (Semisquares and Sesquiquadrates), Squares, and Oppositions (they are all related) is that Octiles manifest as challenges determined to transform us. A call for us to face our problems so we can be a useful participant in our future. It is a challenge which prepares us for taking on a greater form.So, Saturn would not just have difficulty with your Moon stellium, but your world would reinforce that challenge. People could often comment on your emotional distance as if dropping a hint about something you should work on. People could call you out or treat you like you are being emotionally irresponsible when Saturn and your Moon clash. It is an aspect which doesn't afford much forgiveness when the challenge arises. It pokes and prods you to go out and have experiences which help you face the reality of the problem. Octile is a Scorpio/Pluto harmonic aspect. pokey pokey stab stab.
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Ceridwen
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posted September 10, 2012 04:45 AM
I do tend to pay attention - sometimes - to semisquares as minor challenges.
They are especially interesting if they connect with a square, cause they are sitting on the square`s midpoint.Example:
Jupiter: 10 pisces
Neptune: 10 Sagittarius Venus: 25 Capricorn. Venus would be semisquare both planets AND being on the Jupiter/Neptune-mp. I`d definitely mark that one.
Also it is not true that noone ever mentions semisquares/ sesisquares and that no professional astrologer uses them ever.
However I still think that the square and opposition will yield much stronger results. I donīt think the semisquare /sesisquare is "equal" in strength, but in many cases it is pretty noticeable. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted September 10, 2012 05:34 AM
In synastry, from my experience, the minor aspects are only important when dealing with DOUBLE WHAMMIES.In the composite, the minor aspect are very important and oftentimes just as important as the major ones. I use 2'45 degree orb for minor aspects in composite and I use them extensively. As you can see, in your parents' examples, the minor aspects are relevant, but only because they are double whammies. DW's always define a relationship single-handedly. You can see double whammy aspect descriptions in websites such as grupovenus.com's compatibility report and sometimes astrograph.com's compatibility report which shows minor aspect DW's as well, whereas grupovenus doesn't ------------------
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