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Anuska
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posted September 08, 2012 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuska     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am inexplicably unconditionally in love with my colleague from work who has his Sun, Saturn, Venus and Mercury in my 12th house in Virgo, conjuncting there my moon and mercury in Virgo.

He is the only guy that I enjoy talking to, and enjoy to feel around him. He enjoys feeling with me in private while no one around us notices how we feel. He is also very tender, protective and caring with me, caressing me with his tender voice. Also extremely curious about me, my experiences, what I feel, think, always asking me very private questions.

The only bad thing between us is that he has a very long term relationship with another girl. Even though he likes to dream that we are making love together, sleeping, traveling together etc. (He confesses that he very often dreams about me. I do dream that I make love to him very often too). We have never even touched each other. Only contact is platonic long hour’s private talk and that is it. I think he would never ever leave his girlfriend to be with me in a conservative relationship (I have never even asked nor expect that from him). I told him i never want to be a mistress for no one. He is getting very sad and emotional about my decision, but at the same time respects it and is not trying to do anything physical with me. He even proposed to me that he wants me to find a conventional boyfriend to have a relationship with, and then, we together to start seeing each other as the other woman and man in private and hidden from the outside world). I got very angry about his proposal, but very soon I forgave it to him. Cannot be mad and angry on him for long time. That is how much influence and power he has upon me. (though I never confess that to him).

Despite his selfish decision when it comes to me I still love him unconditionally and can’t get him out of my head.

Have you ever had an experience with so many planets falling in 12th house? How were you feeling? What does it mean if someone’s Saturn falls in your 12th house conjuncting moon? I would be very grateful to hear how the planet person feels about the house person?

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Randall
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posted September 08, 2012 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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violet7887
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posted September 08, 2012 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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violet7887
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posted September 08, 2012 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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GirlinSeattle
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posted September 08, 2012 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My greatest love had his Venus in my 12th, and my Sun and Mercury in his 12th. The 12th house is literally where the ego dissolves and superficiality disappears. It's a very karmic house and relationships with a 12th house influence always have an inexplicable connection. However, something that can manifest with 12th house energy is private affairs, the relationship is usually kept secret for some reason. I know I kept my relationship behind doors; I couldn't talk to anyone about it. The way I've handled 12th house energy is to not try to rationalize it. It's something you have to feel, but in your case, where the guy wants an affair with you is where you will have to draw boundaries. Try not to lose your boundaries because it's easy to do with 12th house energy.

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dadevi
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posted September 09, 2012 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadevi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As if the Sun/moon combination you have with your beau wasn't powerful enough, all the other planets in the mix make this one a real doozy.

All I can advise you to do is to think long term. How serious is he about you, really? and does he have a more powerful connection with the person he's with now?

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LovelyKitty
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posted September 09, 2012 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, i have the same experiences with so. too.
His sun, mercury, saturn ,NN, venus is in my 12th. and what a co-incidence it happens in Virgo too!

His venus , sun, mercury conjunct my ac . So , u see the big impact he has on me.


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Anuska
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posted September 09, 2012 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuska     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys, I am very thankful of your support on this forum

Violet7887, you summarized the situation perfectly, It is a slow killer indeed, and it grows deeper and deeper within you by time…

GirlinSeattle, what happened afterwards with you love? It is true that I can lose my boundaries easily I am already headed in that direction…

Dadevi, it is not just the sun/moon combination, we have lots of great conjunction combinations such as:

His: My:
Sun moon
Sun mercury
Jupiter sun
Mercury mercury
Mercury moon
Saturn mercury
Venus moon
Venus mercury
Juno North node
Neptne Juno

And very few hard aspects such as:
His mars squares my Saturn
His Saturn squares my Juno (an aspect which Maggy astrology is explaining it as Saturn is going to tie the juno person forever in a clandestine affair)
His venus squares my Juno

I am kind of new to astrology so I am not sure what all those aspects mean, though venus in conjunction with the moon I read signifies pure love.

Though, i think more of his personal planets im my 12th house have the bigest influence, i am not sure how powerful influence i have upoon him, I only have my venus in his 12th.

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Anuska
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posted September 09, 2012 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuska     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
Hi, i have the same experiences with so. too.
His sun, mercury, saturn ,NN, venus is in my 12th. and what a co-incidence it happens in Virgo too!
His venus , sun, mercury conjunct my ac . So , u see the big impact he has on me.


LovelyKitty, I am kind of new in this forum, so can you explain are you still with the person now? What is going on between you two? Do you have any of your personal planets in the 12th house?


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Doux Rêve
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posted September 09, 2012 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house synastry, when personal planets are involved, can be the best or the worst experience of your life. And maybe even both.

It's deep and it does indeed, dissolve boundaries (the house person's, that is). "Unconditional love", but more realistically, an illusion. I am sorry to say that it usually ends in a bad way.

The 12th house is karmic and karmic connections are very difficult, there's a lot of hardship and pain along the way, and sometimes what happens is that one person is more aware of the undercurrents going on than the other, and tries to establish a deep connection, but the other person doesn't respond in the same way. They either get scared or are indifferent.

It's hard to handle, quite intense and can get ugly very easily.

I think it's important to be as honest as possible with such connections; unfortunately more often than not, one of the individuals is not.


Good luck to you guys.

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violet7887
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posted September 09, 2012 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The love you seek, you will find within.

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Lotis White
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posted September 09, 2012 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is such a thing as an ‘emotional affair’. Where even if you’re not in a physical relationship, you still share an overly close emotional intimacy, on a romantic level, with someone who is already taken. This can be sharing very personal and private things in conversation, and expressing sentiments to each other like ‘if only’… My thoughts are the best way that you can handle this is to cut ties if you have no real future with this man. Or it could wind up being a long slow heat break. Also, if you were with him would he be trustworthy?… How would you feel if you did get together with him and later found out he was telling some other girl “I dream about sleeping with you, if only we were free”. In some ways emotional affairs are just has hurtful as physical ones.

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Doux Rêve
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posted September 09, 2012 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
violet,

I know, I know.
It's hard to be honest when the 12th house is involved, I've experienced it multiple times. It's hard, even impossible to explain. It just is.

But I really think you should be honest with the other person. It will make the situation more clear. It's hard but very important, maybe even a lesson. To be truly honest, despite the fear and insecurity.


Lotis White,

I agree with you.
Very often the connection is more emotional than physical. It's like the soul is touched by unseen forces, and it makes you go a bit crazy over the other person. You don't see them clearly and build a lot of (probably false) contructions of them (ideals). So Neptunian.

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GirlinSeattle
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posted September 10, 2012 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
12th house synastry, when personal planets are involved, can be the best or the worst experience of your life. And maybe even both.

It's deep and it does indeed, dissolve boundaries (the house person's, that is). "Unconditional love", but more realistically, an illusion. I am sorry to say that it usually ends in a bad way.

The 12th house is karmic and karmic connections are very difficult, there's a lot of hardship and pain along the way, and sometimes what happens is that one person is more aware of the undercurrents going on than the other, and tries to establish a deep connection, but the other person doesn't respond in the same way. They either get scared or are indifferent.

It's hard to handle, quite intense and can get ugly very easily.

I think it's important to be as honest as possible with such connections; unfortunately more often than not, one of the individuals is not.


Good luck to you guys.



^ Exactly right. The guy I had 12th house synastry with, well, we ended things on a really bad note. Now we are just friends, but again, we still have that weird but intense connection. We understand each other very well, but not when it comes to romance.

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