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peachbeigeblue
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posted September 12, 2012 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Libra Moon is called the courtesan Moon


I know a libra moon who was with someone involved

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posted September 12, 2012 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
i thought that was virgo venus afflicted?

I knew a virgo venus man.. he actually was such a play'a had woman give him money for his affection-sex I'VE SEEN THE TEXT! and heard the phone calls of them asking if he needed more $ cause she wanted more of him lol we would clown around and he would say "I think gigolos my calling"

Hes a virgo sun too believe it not

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posted September 12, 2012 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gray:
Now this, maybe. We are fond of companionship, after all.


I am going to quote from the book "the astrologers handbook" by Frances Sakoian

"Curiously, if venus in virgo is afflicted with mars,uranus,neptune or pluto, there can be an overreaction against shyness and social properiety,producing loose living, promiscuity, and bohemianism. This stems from a deep fear that only thus can the natives find love and sexual fulfillment: they feel the need to make sexual conquests in order to prove their desirability."

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posted September 12, 2012 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with everyone about venus/uranus aspects or just an afflicted venus in general

Also as well as afflicted venus in Virgo, I would add venus in Gemini or Aqua. Both my mom and I have venus in Aqua, (although I hate to have anything in common with her lol) and my mom has cheated in more than one relationship, which obviously isn't the same as being a mistress but is a similar concept of wanting what you can't have (or are not supposed to have) and not caring about the boundaries.. And as for me I just have unconventional views on relationships to begin with, although I have learned from being in a sort of grey area of having feelings for someone who had a girlfriend that that's not something I want to have anything to do with in the future.

And venus in gemini... I know it might seem like way too much of a generalization, but I've known a few males with this placement, and I think if someone has an afflicted venus in gemini, at least in their younger years, cheating or being the one someone is cheating with may not have been taken as seriously as with some other placements..

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posted September 12, 2012 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait the opposite of a mistress isn't a cheaty playa playa.. That's just a regular joe. The opposite wud be a kept man like george peppard in bfast at tiffany's.

What wud their h7 planets b? It is what u attract no? And that wud be married men.

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posted October 05, 2012 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The Astrology of the "Other Woman"

A friend of mine recently inquired about how and why women often get entangled in love triangles.

This article features natal aspects and placements found in the charts of famous mistresses, and discusses how these aspects relate to their role as the much-hated "Other Woman".

1) Hard Pisces and Neptune influences in the love sector makes the person very self-sacrificial, compassionate, impressionable, and delusional when it comes to relationships.​

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A woman I recently did a reading for had a chart full of Neptune, most notably: Venus in Pisces. She was involved with a man who claimed to love her, but was living with his long-term girlfriend, with whom he had a couple of children. This man would complain to my client constantly about how his girlfriend beat him up, treated him badly, etc.. He told my client he couldn't leave girlfriend because he relied on his girlfriend financially. My client, being a Neptunian, bought into this and began a sexual/emotional relationship with him. She said she wanted to "help" him, and did so by staying with him and offering him unconditional love and support while he was "suffering" at the hands of his abusive girlfriend. In doing so, she sacrificed her own needs in order to make him happy. She said, "I know he truly loves ME, but he's just with her for financial reasons, and since I love him so much, I'm going to stay with him."

Piscean/Neptunian people like to "save" people, and this is often done through self-sacrifice. When you're completely blinded by love for someone, it's difficult to let go, especially when that Neptunian cloud is blurring your vision. You make excuses for the person, doing anything to keep the "dream" alive in order to avoid facing the truth. You can't reason with a Venus-Neptune/Piscean person when it comes to this stuff because they're so convinced everything is okay.

Rielle Hunter (mistress of John Edwards) has Venus opposite Neptune. Katharine Hepburn (mistress of Spencer Tracy) has Venus square Neptune. I think this is the most common aspect among mistresses.

2) I've noticed Venus square Pluto in the natal chart often indicates someone who gets entangled in love triangles. I find that this is common among people who have affairs on their partners, as well as people who end up being the "other woman/man". This aspect is known for fatalistic tendencies in love. Venus-Pluto people are known for getting into addictive relationships, even if they're toxic, because unavailable people are so attractive to them. Even in a painful situation, it's still hard for Venus-Pluto people to let go because the feelings are so intense. Also, women with this aspect are irresistible to men, complicating matters even further. Natives with this aspect must be careful to not fall into sexually/financially exploitative relationships.

3) Heavy 12th house influences can also indicate someone who loves secret relationships. This is especially true if Venus is in the 12th house. This is similar to the Neptune/Piscean influence I mentioned before. The 12th house is all about secrets, and having Venus in here would point to a fondness for secret affairs. It turns them on. It's the kind of relationship which makes them feel most comfortable. Like Neptune/Pisces people, they love the unattainable and tend to fantasize about/idealize their lovers, and might not see their relationships clearly.

4) Heavily Saturnian people ​may also be susceptible to entering relationships with "taken" men. Especially with hard aspects, the person might feel unworthy of love, and has a general distrust for the opposite sex. He/she expects people to cheat, lie, deceive, so these relationships become "normal" to them. If you think every guy is a cheater, it's easy to end up being with a cheater!

5) Heavily Uranian people. Too independent, commitment-phobic, and restless to have a "regular" relationship. The people who offer them "real" relationships scare them off. What turns a Uranian person on is often someone he/she cannot have, hence the attraction to an unavailable man. Also, the attraction stems from the fact that they, themselves, are incapable of having a committed relationship, so they pick people who have no time for them (i.e. people who are already in relationships).

Synastry aspects and transits can bring these types of relationships into your life, too (i.e. Pluto or Neptune squaring your Venus, or someone's Neptune/Pluto squaring your Venus). Under these influences, you are easily swayed or compelled to enter a relationship with the person you meet. These influences often denote deception, delusion, and obsession in relationships.
http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!the-other-woman/c6ul

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posted October 05, 2012 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Uranus...Sun-Neptune...and Venus aspecting these particular outer planets too. Uranus needs oodles of space, as a mistress she does not have to put up with the man like the wife does and gets to see him leave. Neptune is the "savior" aspect, and love is blind here.

Since Sun-Saturn and Venus-Saturn often struggle with issues of self-worth, there is a slight possibility of entering such relationships.

Same could be said for Sun and Venus aspecting Pluto, as forbidden, powerful passionate feelings may override the idea of that person being off limits. But I say it's the first ones that are most likely.

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posted October 05, 2012 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for a_may_gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, Capricorn Venus is the hooker/escort Venus. Love is just another commodity to be bought and sold...

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posted October 05, 2012 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know a leo sun leo moon guy who always get tangled up with girls with boyfriends'

ACTUALLY two guys i can think of off the top of my head who went after me when i had a boyfriend were leo moons. (one cap sun, one virgo sun)

but seriously - the closest thing to a mistress i know is that leo sun leo moon guy. this is like the 3rd girl at least he has been involved with who had a bf. ew

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posted October 06, 2012 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ that must be a coincidence...i know a few leo moons and Leo sun men and none of them are that way.

it doesnt make much sense anyway astrologically...Leo men are very aggressive in going after women they are into, and trust me i know they flirt...but they are usually dignified enough to respect boundaries.


If it does happen, I'm sure it is the other person doing the instigating, in which case they might fool around with her/him but would majorly look down upon their character afterwards.
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posted November 30, 2012 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lyecry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL! this convo is funny...*sighs*...my story

I am a Leo with tons of 10th house placements
(27 degree sun, moon, venus, mercury, jupiter all 10th in leo, libra rising at 28 degrees Aries on the 6th and 7th house;Uranus 1st; Pluto 12th house in Libra)

Anyways, my whole life I've a bit shy even with all those 10th house placements. TOTALLY IDEALISTIC about love when I was younger. I was all about the one, being loyal to the end, all that blah, blah idealism women get caught up in. Until I got played. BADLY. I adored this man. I found out he was screwing me and two other women. Mind u even before this happened I always was head strong and never really gave into men, I never wanted to be "owned" and wanted to love but to still be free. I always saw how wives were left as*ed out in many cases and left with nothing when the relationship fell apart. When I found out my guy was cheating BADLY with 3 women (with a co worker, and had a hidden pregnant GF, plus was still messing with his former baby mama) I beat myself up for being stupid, it took me 2 years to forgive myself. I was crushed so badly that I honestly was NOT the same person. And I made a vow to NEVER, EVER be that hurt woman again. I made a vow to be smarter and always benefit for whatever relationship with a man. Hence, beginning my sugar baby, mistress lifestyle. I've always had a knack for having the ability to get men to become vulnerable, open up, and share all voids that their girlfriend, and wives are not fulfilling. I just want to be a woman that fully owns her sexuality.

Soo...there have you...lol

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posted November 30, 2012 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But most people cheat because the void's within themselves, and they do it because they like attention, are very selfish, emotionally immature and lack empathy.
Alot of the time, their gf/wife treats them really well and they just cheat because they lack the morals to stay honest.
^ So essentially you're being used... They always trash talk their partners to fool any prospective hookups.

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posted November 30, 2012 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by violet7887:
really? Ami give me all the dirt on Libra Moon, especially in males. do you have any dirt ??lol...do you think it is cause they are obsessed with physical beauty and might have a detached superficial quality...i dont know ..i am just trying to guess. Becaue Taurean Suns or Moons are usually this way..obsessed with physical beauty over anything else, and so Libra might be the same but even a bit worst cause they also lack staying power and suck at going after what they want/need....?

why is Libra moon called the courtesan moon?


Taurus Moons... take that back before I use my moon horns to stab you

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posted November 30, 2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus-Pluto, Venus-Neptune, Sun-Neptune, Neptune-DSC, Uranus-Mars, Neptune-Mars. :/

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posted November 30, 2012 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuvinU     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^^ *sigh* yes. I have all but the sun-neptune contact.

Venus sextile Pluto
Venus conjunct Neptune
Neptune Trine Asc
Uranus Square Mars
Neptune Trine Mars

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posted November 30, 2012 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LuvinU:
^^^^^ *sigh* yes. I have all but the sun-neptune contact.

Venus sextile Pluto
Venus conjunct Neptune
Neptune Trine Asc
Uranus Square Mars
Neptune Trine Mars



I was thinking more like Venus opposite/square/conjunct Pluto, Neptune conjunct, square, opposite ASC... you get the point. Harsh aspects only :P

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posted November 30, 2012 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Debby4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:

I was thinking more like Venus opposite/square/conjunct Pluto, Neptune conjunct, square, opposite ASC... you get the point. Harsh aspects only :P

Oh ok! I was like I have some of these placements and I ain't no hussie!

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posted November 30, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot why I was asking this.. Hmmm..

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posted November 30, 2012 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know an Aquarius with a Cap moon, Aqua venus who's a mistress, and I hate her. My Scorpio sun, Cap moon friend is always flirting with married men too. I tend to like men who don't want me and I have an honorary Cap moon (Moon trine Saturn) and Saturn in the 7th in Capricorn. So...seeing a trend here!

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posted November 30, 2012 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
btw..

what do u guys think of mars in libra being a mistress placement?


My Scorpio sun, Cap moon friend I just mentioned has Mars in Libra!

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posted December 01, 2012 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus in the 11th house
you can google it for more info but basically the mistress thing comes up in the description

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posted December 01, 2012 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lyecry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
But most people cheat because the void's within themselves, and they do it because they like attention, are very selfish, emotionally immature and lack empathy.
Alot of the time, their gf/wife treats them really well and they just cheat because they lack the morals to stay honest.
^ So essentially you're being used... They always trash talk their partners to fool any prospective hookups.


Not if I'm being compensated accordingly $$$. Invest in getting involved with upper class men. Know your role (don't step on the wife's toes), set goals (will he help you get through school, or start a business?), know how to invest my money. Learn his trade and take on his knowledge (especially if he's in the business/finance industry).

Play the mistress, but don't come out empty handed.

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posted December 01, 2012 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I know an Aquarius with a Cap moon, Aqua venus who's a mistress, and I hate her. My Scorpio sun, Cap moon friend is always flirting with married men too. I tend to like men who don't want me and I have an honorary Cap moon (Moon trine Saturn) and Saturn in the 7th in Capricorn. So...seeing a trend here!

Moon in Virgo, Capricorn and Venus in Aqua dont know what love actually is.. lol

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posted December 01, 2012 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lyecry:
Not if I'm being compensated accordingly $$$. Invest in getting involved with upper class men. Know your role (don't step on the wife's toes), set goals (will he help you get through school, or start a business?), know how to invest my money. Learn his trade and take on his knowledge (especially if he's in the business/finance industry).

Play the mistress, but don't come out empty handed.



...You know that's freelance prostitution, right?

If I've learned anything in the past five years, it's that it's a shame what people will let their pain turn them into. You're just the latest example in a long, long line...

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posted December 01, 2012 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StacyLewis:

...You know that's freelance prostitution, right?

If I've learned anything in the past five years, it's that it's a shame what people will let their pain turn them into. You're just the latest example in a long, long line...


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