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Topic: Bad behavior, violence and disrespect
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Robin Goodfellow Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted September 15, 2012 01:02 PM
What sorts of aspects could give rise to these tendencies in people?I have some aspects that always pique my curiosity although I dont outwardly behave inappropriately or what not and I dont even know if they are indicators meaning that my aspects dont vicariously express themselves with myself or its just churning in my mind thats all. Mars square saturn Uranus opposition mars Saturn square uranus IP: Logged |
C1ND3R Knowflake Posts: 644 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 15, 2012 01:05 PM
Pluto & mars as well along with sun and BML.IP: Logged |
Gray Knowflake Posts: 149 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 15, 2012 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by C1ND3R: Pluto & mars as well along with sun and BML.
You totally embody my nickname for you - 'cinderblockhead', because nothing you say EVER makes sense astrologically. You have to take an entire chart into account and how all the parts work together. One or two aspects in isolation doesn't necessarily mean the person WILL have those traits, especially if there's other chart elements that mitigate it. At least you stay over here and don't bring this BS to the Astrodienst forum though, because they'd set you straight in two seconds flat. Then again, you probably know your limits and avoid that place like the plague because you wouldn't last there very long making a lot of the ignorant statements you do. IP: Logged |
Robin Goodfellow Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted September 15, 2012 01:15 PM
I was thinking that the negative manifestation of aquarius and aries might indicate the above tendencies, I dont know for sure.IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 1023 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 15, 2012 01:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gray: You totally embody my nickname for you - 'cinderblockhead', because nothing you say EVER makes sense astrologically.You have to take an entire chart into account and how all the parts work together. One or two aspects in isolation doesn't necessarily mean the person WILL have those traits, especially if there's other chart elements that mitigate it. At least you stay over here and don't bring this BS to the Astrodienst forum though, because they'd set you straight in two seconds flat. Then again, you probably know your limits and avoid that place like the plague because you wouldn't last there very long making a lot of the ignorant statements you do.
then lets look at your chart and see what in there causes you to behave that way aspects DO effect our personality and looking at what aspects cause it might be insightfull looking at the chart at a whole will require you to look at aspects...and these aspects might be the one who will make you say "he is that and that" and nobody said you need only 2 aspects to define a person but usually there are patterns IP: Logged |
Robin Goodfellow Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted September 15, 2012 01:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by doommlord: then lets look at your chart and see what in there causes you to behave that wayaspects DO effect our personality and looking at what aspects cause it might be insightfull looking at the chart at a whole will require you to look at aspects...and these aspects might be the one who will make you say "he is that and that" and nobody said you need only 2 aspects to define a person but usually there are patterns
Would you happen to have an opinion on the aspects I mentioned? I would really appreciate it, I'm always intrigued. IP: Logged |
Lazyscarecrow Knowflake Posts: 649 From: En Cee Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 15, 2012 01:27 PM
Mars square or opposed all the Outer planets. Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. Well, more like Saturn, Uranus and Pluto, with Neptune the violence isn't expressed well, or anger is misdirected.IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 1023 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 15, 2012 01:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow: Mars square or opposed all the Outer planets. Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. Well, more like Saturn, Uranus and Pluto, with Neptune the violence isn't expressed well, or anger is misdirected.
couldnt have said it better IP: Logged |
Gray Knowflake Posts: 149 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 15, 2012 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow: Mars square or opposed all the Outer planets. Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. Well, more like Saturn, Uranus and Pluto, with Neptune the violence isn't expressed well, or anger is misdirected.
Garbage. I know a guy who basically has Mars forming hard aspects to almost all the outers in his chart, except Pluto, which it conjuncts. He's not inclined toward bad behavior or violence at all - unless he's provoked into it, then God help you. I'm the same way, with Mars basically afflicted by all the outers. I'm as mellow as they come, until you do something that warrants me going off on you, then it's all over. So no, just because someone has an afflicted Mars, doesn't mean that they're just a raging arsehole. But when we are, it's because you deserve it, and we're very good and taking you to task for what you did wrong. Period. IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 1023 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 15, 2012 01:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gray: Garbage.I know a guy who basically has Mars forming hard aspects to almost all the outers in his chart, except Pluto, which it conjuncts. He's not inclined toward bad behavior or violence at all - unless he's provoked into it, then God help you. I'm the same way, with Mars basically afflicted by all the outers. I'm as mellow as they come, until you do something that warrants me going off on you, then it's all over. So no, just because someone has an afflicted Mars, doesn't mean that they're just a raging arsehole. But when we are, it's because you deserve it, and we're very good and taking you to task for what you did wrong. Period.
you probably have no actual knowledge of astrology do you.... aspects are POTENTIALS and not living facts! IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 6263 From: Hot Smoldering Inner Circle Registered: May 2011
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posted September 15, 2012 02:16 PM
Sun mars for violence. Pluto conj asc. for bad behavior. My aries mercury can be defiant and disrespectful if i feel ur not up to par.IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 769 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted September 15, 2012 02:22 PM
I have Mars in Cancer in the 8H opposite 2H Uranus-Neptune, trine 12H Pluto in Scorpio, biquintile Libra Sun. 11H Mercury in Scorpio squares Mars. I find myself to be verbally abusive and offensive at times, Aquarius influences also make my thinking sort of eccentric. Neptune on my Mars can make me a victim of overly emotional, misdirected rage. I've always verbally disrespected people I've been very close to, especially my mom and the women in my family [Mars in Cancer remember?] since they make me feel disgusted and so up and down. They're actually not very good people though. They've mistreated me quite a lot.
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11nahyt Knowflake Posts: 51 From: manhattan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 16, 2012 12:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gray: Garbage.I know a guy who basically has Mars forming hard aspects to almost all the outers in his chart, except Pluto, which it conjuncts. He's not inclined toward bad behavior or violence at all - unless he's provoked into it, then God help you. I'm the same way, with Mars basically afflicted by all the outers. I'm as mellow as they come, until you do something that warrants me going off on you, then it's all over. So no, just because someone has an afflicted Mars, doesn't mean that they're just a raging arsehole. But when we are, it's because you deserve it, and we're very good and taking you to task for what you did wrong. Period.
i am EXACTLY like this.i dont look for trouble, i am naturally an easy going fun person. but when someone tries to mess with me, OMG. i always treat people accordingly. natally my mars is conjunct my sun and merc,and together they are squared by uranus,saturn, neptune. a year or so ago, pluto transiting my 10th (now 11th) started to square my natal sun/mars/merc conj. and uranus transiting my first house opposing my natal sun/mars. growing up, i was more of the passive aggressive type (thanks to controlling parents). but there were times where i got physical with ppl. only with those who tried to mess with me. i've just never been able to tolerate ANY kind of disrespect. once it got soo bad i nearly beat this girl to death. once i'm physically fighting someone, its almost impossible for me to stop on my own. its always someone who was around me, that ends up grabbing me (has to be from behind though) to remove me from the fight.and now? for the past 2 yrs my temper has gotten soo bad that i am actually afraid of myself lol. i've actually isolated myself from nearly anyone i know.and it seems now more than ever,(has to be those transits i mentioned) its like people are purposely trying to **** me off.so i stick to myself. i read alot which has helped tremendously, its the perfect distraction lol.
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11nahyt Knowflake Posts: 51 From: manhattan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 16, 2012 12:58 AM
i think my anger issues also have something to do with my ego. i think another reason i get so quick to want to fight someone, is because i feel like i can take on anyone, or anything. i have yet to meet someone who instills fear in me.but like i said, this is only when someone messes with me, all this anger, and ego comes out lol.IP: Logged |
Lazyscarecrow Knowflake Posts: 649 From: En Cee Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 16, 2012 01:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gray: Garbage.I know a guy who basically has Mars forming hard aspects to almost all the outers in his chart, except Pluto, which it conjuncts. He's not inclined toward bad behavior or violence at all - unless he's provoked into it, then God help you. I'm the same way, with Mars basically afflicted by all the outers. I'm as mellow as they come, until you do something that warrants me going off on you, then it's all over. So no, just because someone has an afflicted Mars, doesn't mean that they're just a raging arsehole. But when we are, it's because you deserve it, and we're very good and taking you to task for what you did wrong. Period.
It's just an example. I didn't or wasn't trying to imply someone is a raging arsehole with these placements. If you took it that way, okay. Obviously the aspects show if someone provokes you into violence. The energy is there, of course it manifests differently in people depending on chart and upbringing. But, since you're apparently experienced enough to deem my opinion "garbage", I figure maybe you would've known that already about Astrology. Or maybe it should've been more clear to you. IP: Logged |
C1ND3R Knowflake Posts: 644 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 16, 2012 01:08 AM
My mars has the inconjunction with pluto and it's in my twelfth and i'm telling you, i hear you LOUD AND CLEAR when you say that you're even a bit scared of yourself, 11. I have 0 patience and when i encounter delays, my temper is awful! And if it ever involved another person; i blacked out once in a fit of rage and only came to with everyone looking at me with mouths open.That was the only time that the blacking out ever happened and it freaked me out! IP: Logged |
11nahyt Knowflake Posts: 51 From: manhattan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 16, 2012 02:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by C1ND3R: My mars has the inconjunction with pluto and it's in my twelfth and i'm telling you, i hear you LOUD AND CLEAR when you say that you're even a bit scared of yourself, 11. I have 0 patience and when i encounter delays, my temper is awful! And if it ever involved another person; i blacked out once in a fit of rage and only came to with everyone looking at me with mouths open.That was the only time that the blacking out ever happened and it freaked me out!
which is EXACTLY why cutting people off, and becoming a "loner" has been the best decision ever so far for me LOL.i too have blacked out before (twice).and THAT is when i officially became afraid of myself lol. its the reason i almost beat that girl to death. it isnt until after i "snap" out of it, that i see what i've done. and then feeling THANKFUL to those who intervened. that feeling of loosing total control, is the scariest thing in life for me.and so since i cant force people to change, i simply remove myself, and i've cut off nearly everyone i know.i only keep in touch with 3 people(besides my mom and brother), and i LOVE it that way. no drama, no conflicts, and less chances having someone ******* me off IP: Logged | |