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RunAroundScreaming
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posted September 23, 2012 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to talk for a second about this movie. I saw it for the second time yesterday and I was reminded of how much this movie is true to the interplay of cancer and libra. Robin Williams acts so much like the typical cancer and Matt Damon acts so much like the typical libra in their movie roles in this film!

Matt Damon - smartass commenty guy who can charm absolutely anyone, and is so smart he can think of how to outwit anyone who tries to force him to open up. He doesn't believe in bs practicalities of society and pointless social conformities such as meeting someone over coffee or paying lots of money for an education when you can go to the library and get one for free (so typical libra! i actually love that about them). A fast talker, and well read. Can talk about anything and get himself out of anything. He is smarter than everyone, and apparently wiser than everyone, refusing to conform (a good thing when balanced imo). In the movie he was his own lawyer every time he was about to go to jail and he would always bring up past cases to the judge that caused him to look innocent. He would get off on parole every time.

Robin Williams - in the movie he played matt's psychologist who, after seeing 5 diff psychologists, finally gets him to admit that even though he's got a witty answer for everything, he's really just avoiding talking about his problems. At the end of the movie, Will Hunting finally cries and heals. The cancer finally breaks him down to connect with his emotions. Robin Williams is super emotional and fatherly and nurturing with Will the entire movie. Cancer's role is to fill you up with emotion, whether that be sadness, or happiness, a sob story or a funny joke. But their destiny is to be mushy and as philosophical and deep as possible. Williams also displayed a lot of compassion for Will and tried to protect him the most in the movie. Like the mother hen, cancer tries to protect everyone, almost adopting them as their own children that they *must* protect in their mind. Sometimes that can be overly suffocating and restrictive, but in the case of cancer who I think is great as an the intuitive psychologist who instinctively understand's people's defense mechanisms and feels compassion for them, Robin Williams is great for the role as the nurturing psychologist.

I just really connected with this movie because sometimes I feel like nobody is as deep as me, and nobody wants to be either. But as a psychologist you can be as deep as you want. In fact the more mushy and sentimental you are, the better, bc then you can inspire the patient better to connect with his emotions. I just thought it was really funny how in this movie Robin Williams and Matt Damon seem to almost be resolving their own personal problems and finding their own inner self through acting out their role in the film.

And also, yes this has been my real life experience with libra. In real life, my cancerian mushiness and sentimentality helps them to open up and feel okay to be vulnerable and not feel the need to be a smartass all the time and like they can never be Wrong, you know? And feel like they cant afford to be soft and show weakness or be Wrong in an argument, for example, or else people wont like them. I have shared poems with the libras I've met, and shared diary entries and really, I just appreciate so much the balance that they can bring to me. Because while I'm deep and serious, they are witty and hilarious. So we both bring something to the other. They teach me social skills and to lighten up! While I make them feel okay to be vulnerable, and to just be comfortable with letting their emotions show, which i feel is a tough one for libras.

I love libras, and this movie! How funny how you realize that its true what actors say in their interviews. They act because the role they play helps them get in touch with emotions they find it hard to get in touch with in real life.

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posted September 23, 2012 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i love it coz i feel like a genias wif issues!

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posted September 23, 2012 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slummer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robin Williams IS a Cancer, if I remember correctly...

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posted September 23, 2012 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Robin Williams IS a Cancer, if I remember correctly...

yes....i realize that. and matt damon is a libra. that's the whole point of this thread. lol. just sayin'

if you didn't understand that, you didn't understand most of what I said :/

You should reread now

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posted September 23, 2012 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
i love it coz i feel like a genias wif issues!

you're a mathematical genius, sand? haha

or is it like, you're secretly a genius on the inside..you can feel it there sometimes...almost showing thru, but the issues---man! the issues just won't leave you alone and won't let the genius come out fully. lol.

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posted September 23, 2012 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not a maf whiz but proving theorems is natural to me. /shrug i do have good memory like him. i'm also auto didactic like him. i was always in the library reading. finishing school made me so happy coz i had more free time to learn anything i wanted and let my mind wander.

will was of this type of narcissist IMO.

LEGENDS IN THEIR OWN MINDS with talent like theirs, who needs performance?
LOOK FOR: Self-proclaimed genius, with membership in MENSA listed as greatest life achievement.
DRAW YOU IN WITH: Talent and potential.
DRAIN YOU BY: Blaming everybody else for their inability to realize that potential.
THE ONE YOU SEE EVERY DAY: Your brother-in-law, the genius who can't hold down a job.
DEFENSIVE STRATEGY: Getting them to do the parts they don't like first, and paying attention to performance rather than talk.

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posted September 23, 2012 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow math theorems, sand! thats amazing!

i am not auto didactic at all. its very difficult for me to remember information im not directly interested in

I dont think Will was a narcissist in the genral everyday sense, and as a psychologist, i do not believe in profiling without doing any research that proves that people can be put into such categories. But yeah i can see how he did most of those things on the list

The research that ive learned in class done for profiling narcissists is that they think really highly of themselves. it is not a defense mechanism. they really just think they are hot sh1t. and opposed to popular belief, bullies and douchebags dont have low self esteem and are trying to compensate. They really rate themselves highly on self-assessment scales. in other words they really think they are hot sh1t just about all of the time. That's what i learned in class, anyway.

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posted September 23, 2012 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
will thought he was hot sh!t. he burned the math problem he solved and made aleksander skarsgard cry. lol! remember that scene?

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posted September 23, 2012 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i would say irl he knew what he was doing. he wanted to show off his genius. solving math problems at night? u can't be that smart and not know the reactions but i guess he was smart and not wise.

i wonder who wrote the script. i haven't looked into it. damon or affleck? damon went to harvard for a bit i think. he is also plutonic since i remember he is donna cunningham's example of a strong pluto in the how strong is your planet tests.

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posted September 23, 2012 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
will thought he was hot sh!t. he burned the math problem he solved and made aleksander skarsgard cry. lol! remember that scene?

yeah i remember that lmao! yeah he was pretty arrogant in that scene. but he lacked self confidence bc he ran way when skarsgard ran after him in the hallway when he saw he had been writing on the board. also obv lacked confidence with the girl since he wasnt the first to approach her and around his friends he was also pretty quiet most the time and with the girl he also wasnt arrogant about showing off his math skills and using that to make her feel inferior.

him doing math problems on the chalkboards in harvards hallways doesnt mean he is arrogant. it meant the opposite to me. he obviously loved math. he would spend nights trying to solve theorems. he wrote on the boards bc he liked math, but he stayed in hiding bc he lacked confidence in himself to follow his dreams. thats why he chose to clean the halls of harvard and not, say, the local high school. he wanted to be around math and math geniuses, hoping he might get discovered, but running away when he did. robin williams mentioned this to him in one of the sessions, that thats why he had chosen to clean the floors at harvard
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posted September 23, 2012 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah matt damon acts scorpioish. he reminds me a bit of dicrapio who is scorpio with libra rising. damon has that pointing out the superificialities and inconsistencies in society's norms thing that scorpio influence people do a lot. also, he would get to people's true motivations and read them like a book, making them face their own social hypocrisy. a very scorpio with libra trait. libra already does that on their own, but scorpio goes deeper with it, seriously enlightening people's minds in the process to real depth. Scorpios do that all the time, but usually they lact the tact and social skills to do it as effectively as a libra with plutonic influence. Scorpio influences loves to "unmask" people and make them face their own weakness/hypocrisy/masks/superficiality. etc. that's why they can be jerks and manipulative
but libra with plutonic influences does it in a much more effective way since they have the social skills they dont come off as manipulative or jerkish. they do it in a smooth way which makes ppl pay attention in awe. water signs dont usually have those kinds of social skills. plus libra is cardinal so they want to inspire other ppl and provoke them and get them moving and be seen as LEADERS, while scorpio sun sign seems to want to probe people as well without necessarily inspiring them or having other ppl see them as a leader or revolutionary.


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posted September 23, 2012 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i want a hairy armed teacher too to hug me and tell me it's not my fault.

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posted September 23, 2012 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slummer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
yes....i realize that. and matt damon is a libra. that's the whole point of this thread. lol. just sayin'

if you didn't understand that, you didn't understand most of what I said :/

You should reread now



It's not that I didn't understand it, it's that I didn't bother reading beyond the first couple sentences because it started to bore me.

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posted September 23, 2012 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
i want a hairy armed teacher too to hug me and tell me it's not my fault.

I know a hairy armed teacher.

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posted September 23, 2012 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92D15qtI_Gk

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posted September 23, 2012 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL u guys crack me up

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posted September 23, 2012 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Slummer:

It's not that I didn't understand it, it's that I didn't bother reading beyond the first couple sentences because it started to bore me.


then why are you commenting on the thread lol...?

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posted September 23, 2012 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was an amazing analysis, RAS!

Good Will Hunting is one of my favourite movies and you hit the nail on the head in terms of their interaction and the deeper motives and healing.

Thanks!

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posted September 23, 2012 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!
Yes i really feel that actors live out their dreams in their movie roles and face their deeper problems. It makes sense because matt damon might not make a very good counselor in a movie, but robin williams would. So people play what naturally comes to them.
I remember Joseph Gordon Levitt said in an interview that he feels that actors act because they cannot express those feelings or live out those dreams in real life.
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posted September 23, 2012 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alabaster437     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love watching movies and seeing how astrology manifests in how the actors work. This is a fine example!

Awesome movie and great read, RAS

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posted September 23, 2012 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, alabaster! That's very encouraging.

I love it, too!
As well as analyzing movies and TV shows, period. lol

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