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Topic: Semi square-Do you have any? Do you find it constantly bring up stress situations?
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8440 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 04:54 PM
Do you have any examples of this aspect and how youve seen its affect in your life?Semi-square I call this the "in your face" aspect because it forces you to deal with the energy of the planet by always creating situations that won't let it rest until you actively do something to change it. EDIT--this aspect is different than i thought, it doesnt create the tension, it makes you think you need certain thing that isnt actually what you need. Then behave in ways that creates the tension/stress in life. The semi-square (abrv. SSq) is an angle of 45° (1/2 of a square [90°]). A separation of 45±2° is considered a semisquare. This aspect is considered a weaker version of the square and indicates somewhat difficult circumstance. It is sometimes known as the octile or semiquartile. Semi-square is recognized in astrological community as the aspect of frustrations and irritations. Semi-square tests your endurance, persistence and patience. It brings obstacles and rigid mindset in your way, making it more difficult for you to adapt to new or different situations. Sometimes you just need to stay flexible and find other solutions. An orb of less than 3 degrees is recommended.Semi-square aspect meaning
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8440 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 05:04 PM
I have my leo saturn, semi sq my virgo moonI just realized this and im looking for more in my chart because i do seem to always have friction between my responsibilities always taking up so much time that i sacrifice taking care of myself emotionally. My moon is semi square my scorpio uranus and my asteroid lilith(1181) My lack of ability to take care of myself emotionally has made me reactive at times, to do things abruptly, kind of out of desperation to try to get my needs met. Libra pluto-Saggy merc/sun Pluto's destruction and rebirth has been the theme of my life, and my self esteem, and who and how i communicated has always been a death and rebirth. I was only allowed to associate with a certain group of ppl growing up, when i left that religion i was ex communicated, and everyone i knew up til 25 will no longer speak to me...so ive had to rebuild my life completely. Edit- So today, i need to accept that i don't have to be constantly tearing myself down and starting over for myself esteem and to communicate what ive learned and who i am. IP: Logged |
Pure Knowflake Posts: 236 From: UK Registered: Apr 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 05:21 PM
I have Mercury semi-square Pluto, it makes me obsessively think about a certain event or topic for a few months and then I'll get over it and move on to the next one. It also makes me mentally drawn to and simulated by 8th house matters.I also have Mercury and Chiron semi-square my Ascendant, I have no idea how that manifests. Any ideas? IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8440 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 05:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Pure: I have Mercury semi-square Pluto, it makes me obsessively think about a certain event or topic for a few months and then I'll get over it and move on to the next one. It also makes me mentally drawn to and simulated by 8th house matters.I also have Chiron semi-square my Ascendant, I have no idea how that manifests. Any ideas?
Chiron/Ac? Do you find the way others see you is always being affected by the pain you've been through? Maybe you say or do things out of pain that affect others opinion of you and regret it later? --EDIT--- OR, is it this? You think your pain affects the way you look, and it causes you to act out in ways that arent healthy for you....maybe you avoid people, relationships or being assertive feeling you won't be accepted and you let good opportunities pass you by out of fear your not what they are looking for?
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8440 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 05:48 PM
Hmm, My AC semi sq my N.Node? The way i think i should be see affects my destiny, i need to realize i don't have to be seen a certain way in order to be growing into my N.Node? I can accept myself, even if im not seen exactly as i'd like. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8440 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 06:05 PM
Oh, this is a good semi square, the namesake asteroid for my abusive step father taurus@0, to my gemini psyche@15...i think that one is self explanatory!I wonder if anything, asteroids to, semi square our n.node will show us what stands in our way from accomplishing it? IP: Logged |
Pure Knowflake Posts: 236 From: UK Registered: Apr 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 10:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: You think your pain affects the way you look, and it causes you to act out in ways that arent healthy for you....maybe you avoid people, relationships or being assertive feeling you won't be accepted and you let good opportunities pass you by out of fear your not what they are looking for?
Completely spot on! I unconsciously do things that will self sabotage me, I avoid getting close to people, I don't like being assertive/domineering because I'm afraid people will dislike me and I turn down numerous opportunities because I fear being not good enough/a disappointment. I've just realized that I'm constantly put in situations to overcome these fears but I've had no luck because I end up running away from my problems. IP: Logged |
DrewMann Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 10:07 PM
Ok, I don't have any semi squares, but I do have two sesquiquadrates, both mars, one with uranus and one with venus, maybe thats why I am so volatlie.IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8440 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 10:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by DrewMann: Ok, I don't have any semi squares, but I do have two sesquiquadrates, both mars, one with uranus and one with venus, maybe thats why I am so volatlie.
“A sesquisquare is where you may be making a "mountain out of a mole-hill. The sesquisquare is a 135° angle (8° "orb" or less). It will reveal an area of frustration or disappointment. This is most likely due to the fact that you may be blowing the facts or situation clean out of proportion. This aspect is asking you to chill out. It means that you need to develop some endurance, persistence and patience to avoid the overwhelming feelings of impatience and resentment.”
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8440 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 10:42 PM
“A semisquare reveals an area of inflexibility. The semisquare is a 45° angle (4° "orb" or less), which is exactly half of the square aspect at 90°. There may be obstacles that are standing in your way, thereby keeping you from changing and adapting to new or different situations. And you want to do it "this" way, not "that" way. Talk about irritating! Just when it seems you have it all figured out and then this "thing" blocks your path and tries to keep you from moving forward. Well maybe, just maybe, you are supposed to be doing it "that" way. More openness and flexibility is needed here.Ah, do not be bothered by the irritation. The semisquare is just teaching you persistence and patience. There is "always" another approach to bypass the roadblock. In other words, there is always more than one way to go to the grocery store.” www.drstandley.com/astrology...are.shtml IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted September 23, 2012 11:17 PM
Uranus semi square Pluto yikes!edit: i see it's generational. but of course they're outers. i do have pluto conj my asc exact so uranus semi square my asc by 3 degrees. pluto at 0 scorpio. uranus 12 sag. IP: Logged |
Alabaster437 Knowflake Posts: 720 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 11:25 PM
I haven't given much thought to this aspect, but I do have it between Venus and Saturn (ugh).I'm extremely shy and uncomfortable in social situations, so this aspect probably plays a part. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2068 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 18, 2015 09:10 PM
I didn't want to create a new thread and as it turns out Gabby had a thread! I'm just blown away. Apparently much like a square but I have always ignored it. I read sun square Pluto on Darkstar and it explained so much!! This aspect is much more active than I thought! "Sun square Pluto’s persona is serious about secrecy and control. The subjects personal life may remain a mystery, as they are experts at armour plating their true emotions. They don’ t let much slip and can be extreme control freaks. The word anal was invented for these guys, for they rule over their domain with an iron will and a steel fist. They need to know where everything is at all times and woe betide anyone who changes the order of their alphabetically arranged CD collection. They can be intimidating and in extreme cases tyrannical. Sometimes the father can be experienced in this way. These people can be stalkers and obsessive callers, they panic if their lover doesn’t return a text or goes off radar. To Sun square dark Pluto it’s like they have died or something. They have a real fear of death, but in their panic they are often self sabotaging and create the very scenario they fear the most. They are are most afraid of their demonic, unacceptable, beastly thoughts, which can translate as feeling that something about them is ugly, and that they are deformed in someway. They might hide behind a mask, this could be simply very plain or dark clothes they can disappear behind or conversely elaborate, over-the-top freakish make-up. Anything that distracts from the real self that they find unacceptable. However as you can see from the list of celebrities below, once this square is mastered, the power and magic of the aspect is phenomenal. At some point they may indeed have to face some sort of “death”. Having survived this they become indestructible and exude the awesome aura of a Phoenix that has been through the flames and come out 10 times stronger." IP: Logged |
Sandra018 Knowflake Posts: 550 From: Brooklyn,NY Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 18, 2015 09:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: I didn't want to create a new thread and as it turns out Gabby had a thread! I'm just blown away. Apparently much like a square but I have always ignored it. I read sun square Pluto on Darkstar and it explained so much!! This aspect is much more active than I thought! "Sun square Pluto’s persona is serious about secrecy and control. The subjects personal life may remain a mystery, as they are experts at armour plating their true emotions. They don’ t let much slip and can be extreme control freaks. The word anal was invented for these guys, for they rule over their domain with an iron will and a steel fist. They need to know where everything is at all times and woe betide anyone who changes the order of their alphabetically arranged CD collection. They can be intimidating and in extreme cases tyrannical. Sometimes the father can be experienced in this way. These people can be stalkers and obsessive callers, they panic if their lover doesn’t return a text or goes off radar. To Sun square dark Pluto it’s like they have died or something. They have a real fear of death, but in their panic they are often self sabotaging and create the very scenario they fear the most. They are are most afraid of their demonic, unacceptable, beastly thoughts, which can translate as feeling that something about them is ugly, and that they are deformed in someway. They might hide behind a mask, this could be simply very plain or dark clothes they can disappear behind or conversely elaborate, over-the-top freakish make-up. Anything that distracts from the real self that they find unacceptable. However as you can see from the list of celebrities below, once this square is mastered, the power and magic of the aspect is phenomenal. At some point they may indeed have to face some sort of “death”. Having survived this they become indestructible and exude the awesome aura of a Phoenix that has been through the flames and come out 10 times stronger."
THIS!!!! Sun opp Pluto, and all applies! IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 652 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted October 18, 2015 10:16 PM
I have my Sun semisquare my Venus.IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 984 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted October 18, 2015 10:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: I didn't want to create a new thread and as it turns out Gabby had a thread! I'm just blown away. Apparently much like a square but I have always ignored it. I read sun square Pluto on Darkstar and it explained so much!! This aspect is much more active than I thought!
Yeah.. I always ignored Semi-Squares until I looked into my Moon-Neptune semi-square. I only realized how prominent it was in my chart, when I looked up a description for Neptune square Moon. Of course, it may not be QUITE as strong as a full-on square.. But, it definitely seems like a Noticeable energy to me. (I may add on to this later.. )
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 16300 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2015 10:29 AM
I have Mars semisquare Saturn and moon semisquare Mercury.Yes I feel both of them. These may be worse than my squares? I can't think of a square I have that is AS annoying as these, especially since Saturn rules my sun, and my moon is already nebulous and afflicted. So I'm looking at the square as a starting point. From cafeastrology: quote: Mars square Saturn or Mars opposition Saturn: You work hard and patiently to achieve your objectives, persevering and continuing on in spite of difficulties and discouragement. Concentrating on a single, clearly defined goal, you are able to accomplish much, but you often feel that the way is long and arduous, and that you must struggle on alone, that it's all on your shoulders. You are capable of great self-control and self-denial and can be a hard task master, expecting far too much of yourself. You also tend to hold yourself back, to doubt your own power and ability. You feel that you meet with great resistance whenever you try to assert yourself or take initiative. Anger and frustration can be big problems for you, especially when you try to work with other people or depend too much on others for support. You work best in solitude.
^^ GOD YES. quote: Moon square or opposition Mercury...How to blend the head and the heart is a constant struggle for these individuals, usually because there is a tendency to resist blending them! These people love to chat, enjoy story-telling and writing/poetry, and usually possess a sparkling wit! They are animated when they speak, and have a sense of humor that others appreciate simply because it's very imaginative. Some are especially adept at satire. You can usually tell their moods by how much they're talking. When nervous or excitable, they talk up a storm. Moodiness is a characteristic, definitely, and an especially subjective nature makes them prone to hypersensitivity. It usually has to do with the fact that they take in so very much from their environment. This is also one of the reasons why they tend to be indecisive. While Mercury conjunct Moon people tend to be quite consistently rational, the hard aspects of Moon-Mercury generate a swing between irrational and rational thoughts and feelings. This rarely transfers into action, however. It's pretty much something that takes place "upstairs" in the mind, although others are sure to see the struggle from time to time. These people are always interesting, and usually funny. They have a tendency to misrepresent themselves with what they say from time to time, but they're charming, if a little kooky, friends.
^^ Mostly applies to me, especially the part about being kooky, though I go to great lengths to avoid feeling nervous, and don't talk much when I am.
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2068 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 19, 2015 11:45 AM
I'll have to read some others for me. I was reading about aspects and it was called a, "so called minor aspect", the author implying that it's not at all minor in their view. So I gave it a look and wow, it sure doesn't seem to be minor. IP: Logged |
aah08 Knowflake Posts: 387 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted October 19, 2015 12:30 PM
I have Sun semi square Venus, Mars semi square Mercury and Uranus semi square Saturn. Well...idk how to explain them. I think I am not aware of them so I cant exactly say how I have felt them in my life.IP: Logged |
yogistarlight Newflake Posts: 1 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted March 11, 2016 05:51 PM
I have moon semi-square saturn (within 1.5 deg). I do not know what it is doing, except maybe creating a sense of restriction for me. But I also have a Virgo moon and sun square saturn (within 5 degrees). So, I have a of restrictive/rigid energies and frustration. I also have a very expansive 5th house sun in Scorp conjunct Uranus (3 degrees) triune a Cancer asc with Mars conjunct the asc (exact). So I have a very weird mix of super assertiveness, enthusiasm (5th house sun triune ASC) (also Jupiter in 10th in Aires), positivity compromised by a great sense of inadequacy, insecurity, confusion about what I want to do, energy diffusion, etc. But it's hard to isolate that semi-square from the other two "stiffer" energies I've got going on (the Virgo moon--tight on the IC and ruler of my chart) and sun square saturn. Sigh. It's been a bit of a mixed bag of a life! I've accomplished a lot in some ways, but I still feel I have so much more I could do and be. But I just cannot quite put myself out there or don't quite know how. And I end up feeling frustrated as a result...Dealing with my own frustration/thwarted self-actualization is definitely a theme I attribute to the saturn square and semi-square I've got going on. Saturn is in Leo in the second house in my chart, btw. Any thoughts? Cheers! IP: Logged |
Libracorn Knowflake Posts: 257 From: Born in Saturn, grew up in Venus Registered: Sep 2013
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posted March 12, 2016 06:47 PM
Does anyone know what Mercury semi square Mars mean? I have that one at a rather tight orb.IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1028 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted March 13, 2016 05:48 AM
Hey Gabby! Thanks for creating this. I've been wondering a lot about these 'minor' aspects myself. We even had a minor discussion about them on this other thread. Quoting a part of what I was saying -- *~~I think the noviles, semisquares and such that get neglected are actually pretty potent. If something is 40° or 45° away, isn't that physically closer? So, in a literal sense, the effect their respective magnetic fields (or energies) have on each other must also be significant.~~* I have Sun semi-square Venus, exact. Which, at first, I didn't pay much attention to. Then I discovered this description - and it was so bloody accurate. There are a couple other places where it's described in depth. If I find those, I'll link them too. But yes, it's a persistent, grating version of the square. The square hits you over the head with a sledge hammer. This one gets under your skin and stays, constantly gnawing away at you. Edit: Oops, just realised this is an old thread that got bumped up. IP: Logged | |