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Aeline
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posted September 23, 2012 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do they mean? In synastry particularly. They say that if someone's planets conjunct other one's South Node, it would pull him back, right? So what does the square imply? That the person keeps the other person stuck between his past and future or whatsoever?

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posted September 23, 2012 05:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's a good question.
maybe the professional astro' could answer this better

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posted September 23, 2012 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aeline:
What do they mean? In synastry particularly. They say that if someone's planets conjunct other one's South Node, it would pull him back, right? So what does the square imply? That the person keeps the other person stuck between his past and future or whatsoever?


IQ got me to understand the importance of the Nodes in synastry. The NN is where the person is going, so if a persons planet squares it, the person can thwart where the other person is going.

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posted September 23, 2012 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, a conjunction to south node *can* pull you back but it can also signify a past life connection, or if you don't believe in past lives then an instant feeling of knowing a person and/or comfort depending on the nature of the conjunction. I know of plenty of marriages which have a south node planet conjunction.

As for the square, it's a challenging aspect and so I think that the nature of the challenge, planet and house all need to be taken in to consideration. Also, the way that each person presents and/or deals with challenges would have an effect on how it manifested and played out.

I tend to focus more on the conjunctions/oppositions myself, but that's what I've personally noticed about squares. (ie If the challenge helps you move forward then even if it's difficult, it's still you moving forward)

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posted September 23, 2012 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a really good question.
Actually, because I have been experiencing a square to my nodes from someone and I have a natal square of pluto to mines, I had taken the time to research it a bit and the only article addressing this particular aspect was this one:
http://sasstrology.com/2012/02/what-happens-when-you-meet-your-skipped-step-repaying-karmic-debts-in-romantic-relationships.html

It really rang true for me. I have a natal square to my nodes from pluto so the issue of actually finding balance between my north and south node is crucial to me. I have read in some books that square to the nodes in a natal chart, indicates that you have already addressed both the issue of your south node and the issue of your north node in previous lives (that is, if you do believe in past lives) and that you're now supposed to find the right balance between both because you have a tendency to go to extreme. So whenever people come and actually trigger your nodes through a square (and I am not sure of this but I do believe that it is certainly even more significant for someone who has a natal square to his/her nodes) they're actually forcing you to find the right balance between your past habits and where you need to go.

I can honestly tell that, as a personal experience, it was extremely stressing to have someone's personal planets squaring my nodes. Somehow, as with any square aspect I would guess, those relationships or encounters really have the potential to make you acknowledge your inner dilemma and create a lot of tension, which results in a big crisis that you are forced to solve.

It is also easily assumed that in such aspects, the nodes person is the only one that feels the connection (unlike the conjunction to the south or north node that can be felt by both people)

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posted September 24, 2012 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
This is a really good question.
Actually, because I have been experiencing a square to my nodes from someone and I have a natal square of pluto to mines, I had taken the time to research it a bit and the only article addressing this particular aspect was this one:
http://sasstrology.com/2012/02/what-happens-wh en-you-meet-your-skipped-step-repaying-karmic-debts-in-romantic-relationships.html

It really rang true for me. I have a natal square to my nodes from pluto so the issue of actually finding balance between my north and south node is crucial to me. I have read in some books that square to the nodes in a natal chart, indicates that you have already addressed both the issue of your south node and the issue of your north node in previous lives (that is, if you do believe in past lives) and that you're now supposed to find the right balance between both because you have a tendency to go to extreme. So whenever people come and actually trigger your nodes through a square (and I am not sure of this but I do believe that it is certainly even more significant for someone who has a natal square to his/her nodes) they're actually forcing you to find the right balance between your past habits and where you need to go.

I can honestly tell that, as a personal experience, it was extremely stressing to have someone's personal planets squaring my nodes. Somehow, as with any square aspect I would guess, those relationships or encounters really have the potential to make you acknowledge your inner dilemma and create a lot of tension, which results in a big crisis that you are forced to solve.

It is also easily assumed that in such aspects, the nodes person is the only one that feels the connection (unlike the conjunction to the south or north node that can be felt by both people)



I do believe in past lives. I thought they should be relevant too, especially if exact. Thanks for the link!

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posted September 24, 2012 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I think that maybe squares to the nodal axis are much more positive than they are given credit for.
They are on the midpoint between SN and NN, therefore indicating the spot where both energies can be integrated.

On the other hand Jeff Greene calls this the "skipped step", which is an interesting theory.
http://sasstrology.com/2012/02/what-happens-when-you-meet-your-skipped-step-repaying-karmic-debts-in-romantic-relationships.html

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posted September 24, 2012 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I did not see the link was already posted.

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posted September 24, 2012 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A square can be a nice rest stop on the nodal path & can open up new ways of looking at the road traveled thus far & how far one has to go. It'll shake up the way one assesses situations related to their nodes introducing a new perspective. Look at the sign squaring more than the planet, but I suppose the strongest would be the Sun. For example someone's Pisces placement squaring another's Gem/Sadge nodes introduces a spiritual/creative awareness that brings a new dimension to the other's mental outlook, changing their vision & influencing how they communicate..since with the gem/sadge nodes the emphasis is strong on communication and moving information around and the different ways information can be gained and different perspectives in which to place the new experience. A square from Virgo on the other hand would encourage concrete expression challenging the gem/sadge node person to separate the wheat from the chaff and make a final decision of the product to show the world, giving them something to work with materially, something constructive, aiding or inspiring them in a practical sense. Pisces can inspire too but they don't normally stick around like Virgo would.

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posted September 24, 2012 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
A square can be a nice rest stop on the nodal path & can open up new ways of looking at the road traveled thus far & how far one has to go. It'll shake up the way one assesses situations related to their nodes introducing a new perspective. Look at the sign squaring more than the planet, but I suppose the strongest would be the Sun. For example someone's Pisces placement squaring another's Gem/Sadge nodes introduces a spiritual/creative awareness that brings a new dimension to the other's mental outlook, changing their vision & influencing how they communicate..since with the gem/sadge nodes the emphasis is strong on communication and moving information around and the different ways information can be gained and different perspectives in which to place the new experience. A square from Virgo on the other hand would encourage concrete expression challenging the gem/sadge node person to separate the wheat from the chaff and make a final decision of the product to show the world, giving them something to work with materially, something constructive, aiding or inspiring them in a practical sense. Pisces can inspire too but they don't normally stick around like Virgo would.

Actually this Mercury guy... Huge node action. His moon on my SN. Our Saturns conjunct each others NN exact. And my Sun squares his Nodes exact. His own Sun conjunct his SN exact. And with his childhood friens which happens to be also my Love (i didn't know they knew each other - a complete accident.. Or should i say destiny?) my Moon conjuncts his SN exact.. And his Sun squares my Nodes exact. A mimixture of everything..

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posted January 30, 2013 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping this thread.

I realize that there are very few info on this one. Conjunction to the south and north are rather well explained but the square is definitely overlooked!

Anyone has any experience with squares to their nodes or some of your planets squaring someone's nodes in synastry?

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posted January 31, 2013 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leocassandra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I notice that node square Venus in love realtionships is very popular

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posted January 31, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's really interesting, especially as this aspect is commonly known as the star-crossed lover one.
this site especially caught my attention when it listed squares to nodes as one the "marriage indicators" http://starscopestoday.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/marriage-indicators-in-synastry/

I believe there is more to squares to nodes interaspect in synastry than what they are given credit for. However I am trying to understand how the square aspect is likely to manifest itself and how it is different from a conjunction to either node.
Also I was wondering if with the square, the node person is the one who feels everything, or if it's mutual (conjunction of one's planet / angle to another's node in synastry tend to be mutual but the square is described as one of those one sided thing)

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posted January 31, 2013 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of curiosity... What would it be like in synastry if the nodes in each person's chart were squared to each other?

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posted December 15, 2015 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to bump this-

any answers on node square node in synastry?

Thanks!

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posted December 17, 2015 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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