posted September 24, 2012 05:22 AM            

Here's her chart.

Of course her Asc is in early Virgo so if her birthtime is a bit off she could have a late Leo Asc. Her image is not very Capricornian at all. She comes across as more a flirty, playful cowgirl.

posted September 24, 2012 06:30 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Does 11th house serve any other purpose besides groups?

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posted September 24, 2012 08:10 AM            

Uh.. I'm not sure how it manifests for me except that I am anxious when I have to work, get stressed out easily and I'm a hypocondriac. I don't take good care of myself which I think is related to the fact that some of these planets are afflicted (tensions, lessons to learn).

I don't know what job I'd like to do yet and I can't even picture myself having a stable job... I don't like working and am pretty lazy (Venus conj Jupiter in 6th). However, I do think that I need to find something that really suits me and fulfills me on an emotional level. Otherwise I won't be happy in my life at all, cause I can't stand doing stuff that feels "empty", "boring" or "useless" to me.

Sun / Mercury
Venus / Jupiter
Mars / Pluto
and NN technically in the 6th.. phew.

posted September 24, 2012 08:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I've never been a major Dolly Parton fan but for some reason I've always thought of her as a 'Leo' type of personality. One day I looked up her chart out of curiosity and was surprised to find out that she is a super Cap with a Capricorn stellium and Moon/Asc in Virgo. However her Capricorn stellium falls into her 5th house.

Here's her chart.

Of course her Asc is in early Virgo so if her birthtime is a bit off she could have a late Leo Asc. Her image is not very Capricornian at all. She comes across as more a flirty, playful cowgirl.

Also, note her Moon/Asc conjunction and her 'enhanced femininity'... This part of her chart may explain why she felt the need to expand on the femininity of her image. Ha ha.

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posted September 24, 2012 11:41 AM            

mars conjunct from the first
neptune/jupiter from the twelth

posted September 24, 2012 11:55 AM            

If I go by that rule then I don't really have any stelliums because there's an orb of 9° separating one planet from another.. But it's the Sun so I do still count it as a stellium.

posted September 24, 2012 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Technically, a stellium is when at least 3 planets conjunct each other.

If I go by that rule then I don't really have any stelliums because there's an orb of 9° separating one planet from another.. But it's the Sun so I do still count it as a stellium.

I personally still count planets in the same sign as a stellium even if they're out of orb, but I guess it's not correct.

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Actually no, it differs depending on who you ask. Some say it only has to be three planets in one sign, that they don't even have to be conjunct. Then you have the really rigid astrologers who say the planets all have to be in a tight conjunction with one another. Not sure, but I think there may even be some disagreement among some along the lines of, "They have to all be in the same sign, not the same house" or vice versa...there's a lot of different answers you'll get to this question.

It's not that different from something like the 'orb' debate, where some astrologers only count super-tight orbs, and some give a little more leeway.

As far as what I think the ultimate point/goal of this thread is, and to answer that question...I think that a planetary energy is a planetary energy, period, and that there's more than one way for an energy to manifest.

Which is why you can have someone that has nothing in Pisces, but if their Neptune is highly aspected or angular (or even a singleton), they come across incredibly Piscean (like Stevie Nicks who a lot of people think has a Pisces ascendant, when Neptune is angular in her chart). Which is also why I don't really buy that people lack an element because a lot of times that element's energy can be found elsewhere in the chart if you know WHERE to look - which is why people get confused like, "So and so is so practical, but they have nothing in earth signs".

The same thing happens when people refer to me all the time...Libra Moons get pegged as super-unemotional...then they get confused and don't understand why I'm so volatile, even though the answer is right there in front of them because my moon is conjunct pluto and in the eighth house.

posted September 27, 2012 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Slummer:
Actually no, it differs depending on who you ask. Some say it only has to be three planets in one sign, that they don't even have to be conjunct. Then you have the really rigid astrologers who say the planets all have to be in a tight conjunction with one another. Not sure, but I think there may even be some disagreement among some along the lines of, "They have to all be in the same sign, not the same house" or vice versa...there's a lot of different answers you'll get to this question.

It's not that different from something like the 'orb' debate, where some astrologers only count super-tight orbs, and some give a little more leeway.

As far as what I think the ultimate point/goal of this thread is, and to answer that question...I think that a planetary energy is a planetary energy, period, and that there's more than one way for an energy to manifest.

Which is why you can have someone that has nothing in Pisces, but if their Neptune is highly aspected or angular (or even a singleton), they come across incredibly Piscean (like Stevie Nicks who a lot of people think has a Pisces ascendant, when Neptune is angular in her chart). Which is also why I don't really buy that people lack an element because a lot of times that element's energy can be found elsewhere in the chart if you know WHERE to look - which is why people get confused like, "So and so is so practical, but they have nothing in earth signs".

The same thing happens when people refer to me all the time...Libra Moons get pegged as super-unemotional...then they get confused and don't understand why I'm so volatile, even though the answer is right there in front of them because my moon is conjunct pluto and in the eighth house.

Basically what I'm saying is that people have to look outside the box and not think so myopic and simplistically, because clearly, God, the universe, whoever, doesn't operate like that - hell, if you look around in nature and at some of the weird animals and stuff out there, that much should be obvious. Elements and planetary energies have multiple ways they can manifest, it's not as cut and dried as I think a lot of astrologers think it is - or want it to be.

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