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Topic: Why dont fraternal twins look the same if identical twins are also born w/ diff ASC's
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted September 25, 2012 12:51 AM
  
Identical and Fraternal twins are both born with very close birth time, but a lot of times they will have different ascendants. Astrologically speaking, how does it make sense that identical twins look the same while fraternal twins don't even though they don't have closer birth times than fraternal, and identical twins can still have different ascendants just like fraternal, yet look exactly the same.------------------
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sand
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posted September 25, 2012 12:53 AM
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amowls**
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posted September 25, 2012 12:58 AM
Because astrology doesn't change genetics.Anyway, even identical twins can look very different. I'm dating an identical twin and his brother and him don't look identical at all, aside for dressing similarly and having lots of tattoos. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted September 25, 2012 01:00 AM
There's always a slight difference between identical twins though you can see it.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted September 25, 2012 01:04 AM
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Because astrology doesn't change genetics.Anyway, even identical twins can look very different. I'm dating an identical twin and his brother and him don't look identical at all, aside for dressing similarly and having lots of tattoos.
oh wow that's interesting didnt know that.
do you think the identical twins that are super similar may have the same asc? We could even go as far as to say that maybe twins that have the same not just looks, but personality, which is probably rare but still happens, have good compatibility which makes them similar in personality and looks, such as a love or jupiter stellium.
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aquaguy91
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posted September 25, 2012 01:06 AM
fraternal twins come from 2 seperate eggs, identical twins are the result of one egg splitting in half.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted September 25, 2012 01:08 AM
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fraternal twins come from 2 seperate eggs, identical twins are the result of one egg splitting in half.
i know that. i was asking astrology-wise
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11nahyt
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posted September 25, 2012 01:11 AM
maybe those minutes in between those births, were enough to have a planet aspecting the ascendant or a personal planet? i dont know what im talking about lol.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted September 25, 2012 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
i know that. i was asking astrology-wise
I figured ya did. just saying its more a matter of genetics. since identical twins are fertilized by the same sperm they have the exact same dna, whereas the fraternal twins were fertalized by two different sperm,thus they have different dna, so they are bound to look atleast a little different. IP: Logged |
Lava Flower
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posted September 25, 2012 01:12 AM
I watched a movie on twins that are conjoint at the head (but they did a test and they have separate brains functions). One was messy, the other a clean freak. One wanted a boyfriend, the other didn't. Both strong, yet drastically different personalities. I know you asked about appearances, but I thought this was interesting. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted September 25, 2012 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I figured ya did. just saying its more a matter of genetics. since identical twins are fertilized by the same sperm they have the exact same dna, whereas the fraternal twins were fertalized by two different sperm,thus they have different dna, so they are bound to look atleast a little different.
hmm that makes sense  i just figured...how can two people look exactly the same if they have diff house placements and a different ASC? That applies to identical twins born let's say 20 mins apart who end up having diff asc ------------------
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted September 25, 2012 01:15 AM
Interesting, Lava Flower. Thanks for sharing------------------
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aquaguy91
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posted September 25, 2012 01:20 AM
I think twins are something that can't be explained by astrology, kind of like homosexuality. I know a gay guy born within hours of my brother, but my brother isn't gay, so I guess its just one of those things.IP: Logged |
sand
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posted September 25, 2012 01:26 AM
hey i know a set of twins where one is gay and the other a bada$$. sometimes people mistake the bada$$ for the gay one and throw paper at him or slap the back of his head.  IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted September 25, 2012 01:30 AM
haha I saw something like that on 60 minutes once. they were like 5 yrs old, but one was obviously a flamer and wore pink and played with barbies. the other was a typical boy who played with army men and such.IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted September 25, 2012 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
oh wow that's interesting didnt know that.
do you think the identical twins that are super similar may have the same asc?We could even go as far as to say that maybe twins that have the same not just looks, but personality, which is probably rare but still happens, have good compatibility which makes them similar in personality and looks, such as a love or jupiter stellium.
I mean, the guy I'm dating and his brother were born 2 minutes apart, one has their ASC at 18'46 Cancer, the other is 18'21 Cancer. The ASC moves fast but it doesn't move THAT fast and most twins are born within minutes of each other (the ASC moves a degree every 4 minutes). I just calculated their dwads, the guy I'm dating has his ASC dwad at Aquarius 15, which would explain why we always got along better because my Sun is at 19 Aqua... the other's is at 10 Aqua, farther than my Sun and a very weak conjunction compared to his brother. They get along very well, they hang out all the time and live together. IP: Logged |
enchantress
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posted September 25, 2012 02:57 AM
i have a non-identical twin! we are just a couple of minutes apart  like..just 2 minutes hehehe but somehow we are so not the same, I always wondered why (astrologically speaking) because I thought 2 minutes wouldn't make that much of a difference in one's chart..or does it?IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted September 25, 2012 04:34 AM
wow...must be Duads. thanks guys. very interesting stuff------------------
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RegardesPlatero
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posted September 25, 2012 05:31 AM
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amowls**
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posted September 25, 2012 10:00 AM
Also twins would only have a love stellium if they had it natally. Plus any tension in their charts, they'd have with each other. Whether they get along or not depends on the aspects in their natal charts.IP: Logged |
redshift
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posted September 25, 2012 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Identical and Fraternal twins are both born with very close birth time, but a lot of times they will have different ascendants. Astrologically speaking, how does it make sense that identical twins look the same while fraternal twins don't even though they don't have closer birth times than fraternal, and identical twins can still have different ascendants just like fraternal, yet look exactly the same.
Re: fraternal twins not looking alike: It makes sense in the same way that two children born from different mothers at the exact same time and place look different. Fraternal twins have different DNA from each other, even though obviously, they are related. So, unless you expect all people born at the same time and place to look exactly alike, it makes perfect sense that fraternal twins don't. Even though they don't look like each other, you probably can still see the influence of their personal chart on how they look as individuals. Re: Identical twins. They look alike no matter how different their charts are(which can't be drastically different) because they have the exact same genetics. They are from one egg and are carbon copies of each other. eta: identical twins can look different, even though physically, they are identical, if they have different style and mannerisms from each other, which would likely be influenced by having a different asc if they managed to be born that far apart in time from each other. IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted September 25, 2012 10:25 AM
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Re: Identical twins. They look alike no matter how different their charts are(which can't be drastically different) because they have the exact same genetics. They are from one egg and are carbon copies of each other.
Well actually, as identical twins get older you can start to notice the differences because of environmental factors.
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redshift
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posted September 25, 2012 10:45 AM
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Well actually, as identical twins get older you can start to notice the differences because of environmental factors.
Yes, they are identical genetically, but don't grow up in vacuums so yeah stuff can happen to change them externally. One could get in an accident and have a scar, one could break their nose, one could dye their hair and gain weight etc etc.
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