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11nahyt
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posted September 30, 2012 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next to the aspects orb number there is usually a "+" which means "applying".or a "-" which means "separating". Exactly What is the difference, and how do either affect the aspect?

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posted September 30, 2012 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Applying or Separating aspects are determined by the faster moving planet.

Applying means the aspects are moving to exactness - pre-fight. Separating means the aspect is past exactness, the energy is spent and the planets are moving away from each other.

The difference is more observable in dynamic charts (progressions) than in static charts (natal)


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posted September 30, 2012 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they say applying aspects in natal charts play out more in the natives life more and more as they get older. and separating aspects tend to play out less and less (fading)

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posted September 30, 2012 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Positive and negative numbers, this is a natural occurrence in the math world, especially when plotting graphs. Astrology uses math calculations.

Draw a vertical line. Place a zero on the center of that line. Now, place five equally spaced hash marks above the zero to the end of the line. Starting with zero, move up each hash mark and place the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and, 5

Now, place five equally spaced hash marks below the zero to the end of the line. Starting with zero, move down each hash mark and place the numbers -1, -2, -3, -4 and, -5.

This is the concept for the positive and negatives numbers. Astrology calls these numbers aspects.

In Astrology, the faster planet's movement starts from the top and works itself down the vertical line. When the planet reaches the positive 5 position, it is thought of as "applying" or "approaching" the exact conjunction degree of zero, to the second slower planet. The faster planet is at an orb of 5 degrees, from conjunction to the second planet.

When the planet reaches zero, it is thought of as, making an exact conjunction of zero degrees to the second planet.

When the planet reaches negative one, it is thought of as, "separating" from the exact conjunction aspect position.

The aspect influences are getting stronger as the faster planet "applies" or "approaches" the exact position of the aspect to the second planet.

The aspect influences are becoming weaker, as the faster planet continues to move downward away from the second planet and the exact zero position.

In this case, the faster planet is out of aspect orb at a positive six degrees or negative six degrees from the exact aspect conjunction position of zero.

Using the same vertical conjunction line, the faster planet can go retrograde. The planet can reach the negative four position and then pause at that position. And then, begin to slowly climb the line to the positive five position. Where it will then begin to move down the vertical line again.


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posted September 30, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always interpreted applying and separating aspects in all my astro studies, personally. I find it relevant even in synastry and natal, not just transits. But that's just me.

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posted September 30, 2012 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathIsanIllusion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sometimes experienced separating aspects to be more powerful than the applying ones.

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posted September 30, 2012 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeathIsanIllusion:
I have sometimes experienced separating aspects to be more powerful than the applying ones.


Really? Do you mean by transit or in synastry?

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11nahyt
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posted September 30, 2012 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the explanation folks. And @death I too want to know if that was with transits or synasty?. What planets where involved in that case?

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posted April 05, 2014 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MyFavouriteName:
they say applying aspects in natal charts play out more in the natives life more and more as they get older. and separating aspects tend to play out less and less (fading)



Thanks for sharing this, this explains a lot as I am looking at my natal chart.

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