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Topic: Love Stellium + Saturn
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JLyn ~ Knowflake Posts: 702 From: my state of mind Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 30, 2012 06:30 PM
In composite. Lets say there's a beautiful conjuction in chart with sun/mercury/venus all in scorpio. but then you look closer and saturn squares all 3 of the love stellium!!!
Wouldn't that reverse the effect of the energy, or what? IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 7084 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 30, 2012 07:53 PM
It wouldn't, no. they would still love each other the same, they would just be unfairly and hurtfully critical of each other at times, but they'd still love strongly.I think what really squashes a love stellium is all three outer planets squaring it. Even then both people would still feel the love and the harmony....but it usually means unrequited love. Sometimes pluto squares or trines such a heavily afflicted stellium, or jupiter conjuncts it, that could def help the situation...but i'd still be weary about it being unrequited love. ------------------ $3.50 ebay compatibility readings | testimonials | Past readings | Ideal compatibility (3rd post) | Q&A | What's a Love stellium? IP: Logged |
FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 821 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012
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posted September 30, 2012 08:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: It wouldn't, no. they would still love each other the same, they would just be unfairly and hurtfully critical of each other at times, but they'd still love strongly.I think what really squashes a love stellium is all three outer planets squaring it. Even then both people would still feel the love and the harmony....but it usually means unrequited love. Sometimes pluto squares or trines such a heavily afflicted stellium, or jupiter conjuncts it, that could def help the situation...but i'd still be weary about it being unrequited love.
Hi RAS, just out of curiosity, how wide of an orb do you consider when looking at composite charts? I have the love stellium with someone: Venus in Aries opp Mercury in Libra 0.43 degrees, and Sun 4.50 degrees... BUT we have Saturn, Neptune, and Uranus all in Cap, so it is square by sign, but most of the aspects are very wide. The closest squares we have are: Saturn square Sun 2.77 degrees Neptune square Venus and Mercury about 3 degrees The rest are really wide, like by 8 degrees or more, so just wondering if that makes a difference in your opinion or if you would still consider it as being very afflicted? IP: Logged |
JLyn ~ Knowflake Posts: 702 From: my state of mind Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 30, 2012 09:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: It wouldn't, no. they would still love each other the same, they would just be unfairly and hurtfully critical of each other at times, but they'd still love strongly.I think what really squashes a love stellium is all three outer planets squaring it. Even then both people would still feel the love and the harmony....but it usually means unrequited love. Sometimes pluto squares or trines such a heavily afflicted stellium, or jupiter conjuncts it, that could def help the situation...but i'd still be weary about it being unrequited love.
Wait, huh? you said no it wouldn't change anything, but then you said if the three outer planets squares it then yes. I'm sorry i may be alittle confused.. and the love stellium has wide conjunction to uranus with the pluto trine saturn! but pluto squaring moon? Still looks one-sided?
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JLyn ~ Knowflake Posts: 702 From: my state of mind Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 30, 2012 10:02 PM
And to find out who's energy is put in the relationship more, just a thought... person A has natal moon conjunction the love stellium in composite and feels the relationship (loves more?) than person B? It looks logical but does anyone know if it's a real factor IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 7084 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 10, 2012 01:25 AM
If uranus is widely conjunct the stellium that looks like slightly more cause for worry that things will end badly between you. How is it going so far, if u dont mind me asking?To answer your other question, when three outer planets afflict the love stellium I've found the people will both feel the harmony as friends, but even though they both do, one will feel it more strongly than the other so that one of you will feel you should be acquaintances while the other will feel you should be good friends or maybe even more. When just one outer planet afflicts the stellium it's not really unrequited love..you are both equally critical of each other but you still feel that u love each other. ------------------ $3.50 ebay compatibility readings | testimonials | Past readings | Ideal compatibility (3rd post) | Q&A | What's a Love stellium? | Most important aspects descriptions | Aspects to avoid IP: Logged |
JLyn ~ Knowflake Posts: 702 From: my state of mind Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 10, 2012 02:00 AM
RAS,first I just wanna say your right. and thank you so much for responding back : ) The friendship is cared for with hope for something more, but it swings up and down with us wanting it at two different times IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7899 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 10, 2012 04:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by JLyn ~:
person A has natal moon conjunction the love stellium in composite and feels the relationship (loves more?) than person B? It looks logical but does anyone know if it's a real factor
Yes. (though you have to carefully analyse what in each natal is triggered by the composite. Those who have their personal planets, esp. Venus, Moon or even DESC, triggered are usually the most invested in the relationship. If nothing is triggered in the natal, this might be a recipe for unrequited or extremely lopsided love.) IP: Logged |
JLyn ~ Knowflake Posts: 702 From: my state of mind Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 10, 2012 02:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes.(though you have to carefully analyse what in each natal is triggered by the composite. Those who have their personal planets, esp. Venus, Moon or even DESC, triggered are usually the most invested in the relationship. If nothing is triggered in the natal, this might be a recipe for unrequited or extremely lopsided love.)
That funny cause HIM in this relationship pushes back more than me, and his natal moon/venus even his mars is conjuction the composites? my natal is only conjuction to the composites mercury, so the balance doesn't seem right. ha, maybe he does feel more but hides it. cause honestly I'm not in love with him, I just go through times were I think about having a committed relationship with him because of the intense attraction IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7899 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 10, 2012 04:04 PM
To be honest, I`d need to see it before being able to say anything about it. But if his Moon AND Venus are strongly triggered, he might be just too affected. And our feelings do not always translate into actions.And then of course it depens how his Moon and Venus are aspected in his natal. If they are having squares to Saturn (just as one possible example) he might be still triggered emotionally, but he might not necessarily like it. IP: Logged |
JLyn ~ Knowflake Posts: 702 From: my state of mind Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 10, 2012 05:10 PM
Yep that's what I'm starting to realize. It all goes back to the root of the natal IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 7899 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 10, 2012 05:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by JLyn ~:
It all goes back to the root of the natal
That`s what I always say. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 7084 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 10, 2012 07:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by JLyn ~: RAS,first I just wanna say your right. and thank you so much for responding back : ) The friendship is cared for with hope for something more, but it swings up and down with us wanting it at two different times
Yes, the more different planets that afflict the stellium, the higher the chance of unrequited love. So with two outer planets squaring it, it makes sense feelings would fluctuate. ------------------ $3.50 ebay compatibility readings | testimonials | Past readings | Ideal compatibility (3rd post) | Q&A | What's a Love stellium? | Most important aspects descriptions | Aspects to avoid IP: Logged |
Helena8 Newflake Posts: 5 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted June 13, 2013 01:21 PM
May I ask for your help please? I have this composite chart with a guy -Moon in 1st house Moon square to Neptune orb 2° 23' Mercury in 2nd house Mercury conjunct Venus orb 7° 28' Mercury sextile Mars orb 4° 57' Mercury conjunct Jupiter orb 1° 13' Mercury sextile Neptune orb 0° 7' Mercury conjunct Pluto orb 1° 25' Venus in 2nd house Venus sextile Mars orb 2° 31' Venus conjunct Pluto orb 6° 2' Mars in 12th house Mars square Uranus orb 1° 0' Mars trine Neptune orb 4° 49' Mars sextile with Pluto orb 3° 31' Jupiter in 2nd house Jupiter conjunct Saturn orb 7° 53' Jupiter sextile Neptune orb 1° 21' Jupiter conjunct Pluto orb 2° 39' Saturn in 2nd house Uranus in 3rd house Neptune in 4th house Neptune sextile Pluto orb 1° 17' Pluto in 2nd house Since the composite sun, venus, mercury and pluto are all in the 2nd house, is it a love stellium? Also, having saturn in the same house, is it a bad thing? Would appreciate your help! thank you! IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 245 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted June 13, 2013 01:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes.(though you have to carefully analyse what in each natal is triggered by the composite. Those who have their personal planets, esp. Venus, Moon or even DESC, triggered are usually the most invested in the relationship. If nothing is triggered in the natal, this might be a recipe for unrequited or extremely lopsided love.)
What would you say of the composite where ASC conjuncts A's Moon <1d IC conjuncts A's Sun <1d Sun conjuncts A's Neptune (7th ruler)1d Sun (composite chart ruler) conjuncts B's DSC <1d Sun conjuncts B's Jupiter EXACT North Node conjuncts B's Sun EXACT I can't come to a conclusion as to who is affected more. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 963 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 13, 2013 01:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes.(though you have to carefully analyse what in each natal is triggered by the composite. Those who have their personal planets, esp. Venus, Moon or even DESC, triggered are usually the most invested in the relationship. If nothing is triggered in the natal, this might be a recipe for unrequited or extremely lopsided love.)
All that, And natal's Sun/Moon midpoint, too In our composite, the ASC is at 18'22 Aries and his natal Sun/Moon midpoint is at 18'36 Aries. Composite ASC ( the heart of the relationship) activating one's Sun/Moon midpoint is auspicious. IP: Logged |
anno_lucis Knowflake Posts: 898 From: the atman Registered: Mar 2012
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posted August 15, 2013 12:59 PM
what if comp sun (chart ruler) falls on his natal mars...?either way the comp is screwed since saturn aspects sun moon and venus..ughhh IP: Logged |
anno_lucis Knowflake Posts: 898 From: the atman Registered: Mar 2012
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posted August 15, 2013 01:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes.(though you have to carefully analyse what in each natal is triggered by the composite. Those who have their personal planets, esp. Venus, Moon or even DESC, triggered are usually the most invested in the relationship. If nothing is triggered in the natal, this might be a recipe for unrequited or extremely lopsided love.)
he has his dsc triggered yessssi sort of have my nodes triggered by the ic/mc axis tho and comp vertex is on my dr sun/moon *eyeroll*
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Bardophile Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 16, 2013 01:20 AM
I'm sorry, but I just needed to ask. What if the composite chart has these aspects: Sun conjunct Mercury (exact), Saturn & Uranus. Both Sun & Mercury semisextile Venus. Would this even qualify as a love stellium? IP: Logged |