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RedScorp
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posted October 04, 2012 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What aspects or placements would lead to someone who is flighty in relationships, or non-committal? Someone who runs around town or drives in cars with boys, but at the end of the day fears or avoids being in one place? It could be for whatever reason - the thrill, it's instinct, etc.

Do you think you're a heartbreaker? Do you know one? Any input, stories, or theories is excellent! Hell, if you don't know, but you have a tale to tell, feel free to speak UP!

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posted October 04, 2012 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, it has been mutable signs who fit the bill or those who are heavily mutable, heavy air and especially when the Sun is in a fire sign combined with these other aspects. And think of planets, too. Mercury, Neptune, sometimes Uranus(though it's fixed). Air moons which can view things objectively and then just leave it, depending on supporting aspects to the Moon.

Now I'm sure there are Pisces who like commitment and Virgos and Sags and Geminis but this is just *my* experience. Sag sun Pisces moon ex, Gemini sun and moon ex, even know an Aries sun Gem moon with Mars in Pisces kiiiinda like this. They are all kind of light hearted about relationships, don't let them become too heavy and are mostly thrill and fun oriented. Which is not bad anyway.

No, I'm the exact opposite of the flighty heart-breaker who everyone loves and gets left by.

I'm more or less the committed heart-broken who didn't see it coming.

My chart is very very fixed. My rising is mutable, though.

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posted October 04, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
people with lots of 5th house planets.

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RedScorp
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posted October 04, 2012 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lazyscarecrow; I see, I see! It works for my mom who has a lot of Virgo + Pisces Mars. She has a Cancer Venus too, but once she's done, she's DONE. In her youth, she was haughty and lotsa guys chased her.

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people with lots of 5th house planets.

That makes sense! And it seems to hold true for the people I can think of off the top of my head.

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posted October 04, 2012 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
or...it could be Uranus conjunct the Ascendant. They can be noncommittal and they constantly alter their viewpoints.
it's an ongoing process dude

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posted October 04, 2012 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:

I'm more or less the committed heart-broken who didn't see it coming.



^^^I'm this as well...

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Lotis White
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posted October 04, 2012 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This type of thing (heartbreakers)can also relate to the 5th house/11th house Axis being active in someone’s chart.

The 11th house rules popularity, social lovability and love received…. People with an active 11th house, and well placed 11th house rulers, are likely to attract many admires, and to be seen in general as a worthy catch. Many people may seek this person, but they can only pick one, or they may pass altogether if they're not interested in any particular person.

The same could be said for an active Uranus, Uranus in the 1st or 10th house, or tons of Aquarius in the chart (Although this tends to be more diluted then the Uranus/11th house stuff). These types of people are often seen as fascinatingly different, in sparking, unique way, which attracts plenty of attention in general. Venus/Uranus squares and oppositions in particular, tend to indicate unpredictable love lives, with drastic changes (in other words a heartbreaker)... Or just an unusual choice for a partner.

The 5th house rules impressive talent, an ability to captivate others with the shear force of your charisma, and love given… This house is all about the glory that comes from being brilliant in your own way, and utilizing your self-expression effectively. It’s also about the initial stages of love and romance, where we become infatuated with how ’special’ a particular person seem to be…. People with an active 5th house, and well placed 5th house rulers, tend to be able to ’cast a spell’ on others with their charisma, and as such attract many admires. Again, this type could be a heartbreaker simply in the sense that many may fall under their spell, and yet they will only pick the one they like the most. Or nobody, if there isn't anybody in particular that makes their heartstrings sing (This type of thing is especially important for 5th house/Solar/Leo types).

The same could be said for an active Sun, Sun in the 1st or 10th house, or tons of Leo in the chart (Again, the sign alone is a more diluted indicator then the 5th house/Sun stuff). These folks tend to ’shine out’ amongst their peers in general.

This is NOT to say that all strongly influenced Uranus/Aqua/11th house and Sun/ Leo/5th house folks are universally attractive to all. It’s just that these types of people tend to attract a lot of attention, and the more you get noticed, and more likely it is that someone will fall for you… Even if unintentionally. The very fact that these people stand out works in their favor in terms of attracting attention. However this attention they attract can be either extremely good or extremely bad, depending on the rest of their chart, and how the aspects play out... With an afflicted 11th house for instance, instead of being well loved by your ‘crowd’, you could find yourself the subject of ridicule, or wind up being notorious, or infamous in some way. Another manifestation of this could be that you do attract plenty of admires but that you also find them to be pesky or irritating in how they pursue your attention. There may even be a stalker -like situation at some point in your life. It can play out in at number of ways.

In my case I’ve got Pluto in the 11th house, and at one point in my life I had a serious stalker situation that was difficult to get through.

I also agree that strong mutable signs having a bit of a ’heartbreaker’ quality . They tend to be very curious and take an interest in people (asking them a lot of questions) which can be misinterpreted as romantic interest, when really they are just mentally intrigued by others in general. They also flit from one thing to another really fast. The may seem fascinated by you one day, and the next it’s like they’re barely aware you exist.

Also there may be those that are heartbreakers in the sense that they know they have charm and use it to their advantage, having multiple sweethearts at one time... This is probably related to an affliction involving the 5th or 11th houses... Or Uranus (erratic, and changeable), Pluto (can be intensely loyal or sexually promiscuous), Neptune (deceptive and always looking for perfection) in harsh aspects to the Sun, Moon, Venus (especially Venus) or Mars. In some cases Venus/Mars aspects, especially the hard ones, can indicate this type of heartbreaker as well. These people usually have a lot of appeal, and if they are so inclined could use this to their advantage in a negative way. Aspects like all the above mentioned can manifest in many ways though, so I wouldn’t be jumping to conclusions to fast. Everyone is different in how they manifest their charts.

And lets not overlook a strong Venus in the chart (Also possible with a strong 7th house, and tons of Libra in the chart)… This type might have quite a talent for flirting (they are people pleasers at heart), when they are not serious at all, and are infact just being friendly… Another recipe for a heartbreaker, even if it’s not necessarily done on purpose.

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posted October 04, 2012 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Random data:

1) Gary Goldschneider calls September 28th "The day of the Heartbreakers."

2) August 2nd is another "sudden death for relationships" birthday

3) Unevolved Gemini moons

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posted October 04, 2012 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://youtu.be/IGwVLJrhw5Q

LOL sorry i just had to!

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posted October 04, 2012 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planets in Aquarius:

Aquarius is the natural ruler of the 11th house, and is ruled by the planet Uranus. The characteristics of Aquarius are: unpredictability, instability, and freedom-loving. As such, people with planets in Aquarius tend to display these characteristics towards their mates, especially if the Sun, Moon, and/or Venus is in Aquarius. Aquarian men need tons of space and freedom, and feel “trapped” if they feel tied down. This is why this sign is known for commitment-phobia. Aquarius is also the rebel, so anything “traditional” when it comes to relationships just won’t do. Indeed, non-traditional relationships, such as long-distance relationships, work best for these guys.

Aquarius, Uranus & The Detached Lover

Aquarius men are often stuck in their own worlds. They are constantly thinking and processing information, so it’s easy for them to forget to call or write. Also, Aquarius men shun neediness and clingy-ness, so if their partner shows major signs of co-dependency, they will distance themselves from the relationship. Aquas are also very independent, and need space to do their own thing. In addition, Aquarius people tend to see everyone as equals; they’re just as likely to help a stranger as they are likely to help a long-time friend. Because of this, they are less likely to give anyone “special treatment.” Finally, Aquas are known for their emotional detachment. They are often oblivious to the feelings of others, so he might find it difficult to understand that you have needs.

Aquarius men work best with partners who also have their own lives. If you’re in a relationship with an Aquarius person, don’t give up your life for him. Waiting by the phone for him to call, or nagging him constantly will get you nowhere in this relationship.

Prominent Uranus Aspects and Placements:


Prominent Uranus aspects include hard aspects to one’s Sun, Moon, Venus, Ascendant/Descendant axis, or Uranus in the fifth or seventh house.

People with prominent Uranus placements tend to have Aquarian traits, as Uranus is the ruler of Aquarius. People with prominent Uranus in their charts are independent, freedom-loving folk who hate to be tied down.

Like Aquarius folk, they have a tremendous need for space and independence, so relationships can be tricky for them. Relationships usually start and end quickly for Uranian people. They are attracted to the “newness” of relationships, which is hard to maintain in the long run. Their relationships are marked by an on-off energy; when their partners get too close, the Uranian person distances himself, but when the partner is nowhere to be found, the Uranian person gains interest again. Instability and unpredictability are the hallmarks of Uranian relationships. These people tend to also be attracted to non-traditional relationships (i.e. long-distance), and are attracted to non-traditional partners (i.e. people from different localities, backgrounds, cultures, etc.).

So, how do you deal with a Uranian man, when it comes to relationships? Again, having your own life and giving him plenty of space is key to making this work. People with prominent Uranus in their charts tend to do well with other Uranian people; they each give each other plenty of space and understand each other’s need for freedom.
http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!aquarius-the-detached-lover/cb81

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posted October 05, 2012 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus makes sense...Uranus is a cool, white light and people like to look at lights. But hey! You can't keep a hold on big ol' Ouranos.

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or...it could be Uranus conjunct the Ascendant. They can be noncommittal and they constantly alter their viewpoints.
it's an ongoing process dude

Or maybe Uranus in the Fifth or Seventh too? People need to be kept fresh, man!

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posted October 05, 2012 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as an aqua I do need space, but I'm no cheater, atleast I haven't felt the inclination to cheat yet.

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posted October 05, 2012 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have ALL my personal planets in H11 and H5 and I can honestly say that I have gone thru more men that I care to admit :-/ And my simple explanation for this is: it's a game and I can really take it or leave it in terms of the guy. He puts pressure on me? He can leave. He doesn't put pressure on me? He can leave. He bores me? He can leave. I find someone "shinier"? I jump on that train etc I have never "needed" a man. Wanted? Oh yes! And I've wanted him until boredom came along.

I LIVE for my friends however and have done and will do anything in my power to keep them happy!

Not sure if Mars conjunct Asc (virgo)in H1 will add to the "prey/hunter" dynamic?

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posted October 06, 2012 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have ALL my personal planets in H11 and H5 and I can honestly say that I have gone thru more men that I care to admit
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Not sure if Mars conjunct Asc (virgo)in H1 will add to the "prey/hunter" dynamic?

I have a stellium in H5 and my Mars is half in H11. I have a Virgo rising too, but nothing in H1 (unless you count Chiron). I can relate to what you say. I personally don't NEED commitment or a relationship, so if I'm unhappy, I'll do away with them. I give them chances, of course! But I'm not very patient if I feel like it's not going to last.

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posted October 06, 2012 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive a lot of male friends. I love to be friends with men but its not always so easy.. After a while some men wants more....many men easily became in love like many women.

Ive moon, venus, mars in house 11.

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posted October 06, 2012 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
as an aqua I do need space, but I'm no cheater, atleast I haven't felt the inclination to cheat yet.

a heartbreaker isn't necessarily a cheater


uranus in the 5th and many uranus aspects here, i'm sure some consider/have considered me a heartbreaker

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posted October 07, 2012 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blanky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree with Meucuranian regarding 5th house Uranus. I too have 5th House Uranus and had plenty of partners and I broke it off with all of them. I think Uranus in the 5th is like that.

Whenever things got boring I moved on in relationships. I needed romance and not boring romance! This is tough at times though I can be faithful.

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posted October 08, 2012 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Long - standing     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 3 planets in the 5 th (uranus,upiter,pluto) and Venus in the 11 th..I have a long-term marrige and a bit detached but still there are some situations. I am not a shark to destroy families or hearts, but woman is a worman, she must feel adoration.(But all these planets are retrograde, may be that's why - "think twice" is a motto!)

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posted October 09, 2012 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuranian:
uranus in the 5th and many uranus aspects here, i'm sure some consider/have considered me a heartbreaker

Nods. Same here! I don't know if I'd place mine completely on the shoulders of that placement but it carries its fair share

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posted October 09, 2012 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
What aspects or placements would lead to someone who is flighty in relationships, or non-committal? Someone who runs around town or drives in cars with boys, but at the end of the day fears or avoids being in one place? It could be for whatever reason - the thrill, it's instinct, etc.

Do you think you're a heartbreaker? Do you know one? Any input, stories, or theories is excellent! Hell, if you don't know, but you have a tale to tell, feel free to speak UP!


lmfao redscorp teh heartbreaker!

well i am not one of those types.. irl i never lead anyone on and i am too standoffish to confuse my affections for someone just being nice.

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posted October 09, 2012 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, out of the people that I know who've been like that, it's been mostly Sags and Geminis, and one Pisces with a LOT of Aqua influence.

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posted October 09, 2012 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regardes; I'd say a heartbreaker is really a broad term. It could be someone who's desirable and has people chasing them, but the person doesn't settle. It could be someone who flies through relationships. Overall, in the end, they come out fine, but their now-ex is all sad and stuff.

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lmfao redscorp teh heartbreaker!

Ahahahaha! My friend and I were talking and I was telling her about how I became really close with, ****** off, and got told to "Leave. Just leave and don't even talk to me again." by this one person.

My friend was like, "omg how long have you two even known each other,"
and I was like..."a month, maybe"
so she was like, "wow you like do this each month, meet someone and then break up with them"

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sand
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posted October 09, 2012 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
u know i think i am privy to some redscorp forum heartbreak info!! damn i know a lot of things in this forum..

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posted October 09, 2012 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about a classic "love stellium" but in somebody's natal chart?

My friend CSH has his Venus, Merc, Sun, and Jupiter conjunct (in that order) and the stellium is in his 11th house in Leo.
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This stellium is also sextile Pluto and trine Neptune.
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Leo ASC, Pis Sun, Tau moon

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posted October 09, 2012 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I have a few ideas as to what you're talking about, Mr. Ands...

Lindaland is such a drama lmao! We should have our own little tv show.

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