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JLyn ~
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posted October 04, 2012 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who would most likely have the
compulsive cheating syndrome...
Not the one that cheated once because of a lame relationship, I'm talking about the person that has a good relationship but still seeks for multiple "hush puppies" on the side filled with sex, emotional friendships, and over-all living in lala-land fantasy filled with empty promises to the other hush puppy for their future, but never proceeds.

The first thing that cames to mind is the rising sign?

It's hard to tell because this person admitted to me that the reasons behind it is looking for love. But from what it looks like from a distance (my point of view) it seems this person gets off on attention from the many conquest

PLAY'A PLAY'A

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posted October 04, 2012 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have two people that come to mind who are the biggest players as far as I know about.

One is Capricorn/sag moon/gem rise/sag Venus
She has venus conjunct uranus in her seventh.
Her Venus tribe mars.

2 is libra with scorp moon libra rising Virgo Venus.
He has Venus in his 11th sq his mars and semi sq his Pluto. Trine his Chiron This one is married.

They both have Venus sextile mc

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 05, 2012 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn! Ouch lol. I have Venus Sextile MC. Hahaha.

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JLyn ~
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posted October 05, 2012 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I had this persons birth time so we could check the mc for an interesting pattern

>:| oh well....

But the cheater does have virgo venus & scorpio moon, venus squaring moon/jupiter/saturn/neptune AND neptune squaring venus/mercury/sun

Didn't they make a song about people like this?
oh yeah lol http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=YTGiyQRG2EE

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Ami Anne
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posted October 05, 2012 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cheating
Hmmm
I think Saggi, first off lol

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RegardesPlatero
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posted October 05, 2012 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In all honesty, I don't know if there is any way to know that.

I know a few Sags who have never cheated--and who wouldn't, either.

And if a Virgo Venus/Scorp moon person can't be faithful, then that leads me to believe that you just can't know that from a chart.

Earth and water seem to get a better reputation for fidelity, but--and I honestly don't mean to offend the earth/water people out there--I don't know that they've earned it. There are many earth and water people/with those influences who cheat, and some fire/air people who don't.

My opinion is that charts just give you raw materials. What you build with them is up to you. I'd say that maybe the only thing really influenced is why a person cheats/doesn't cheat, as opposed to if they will or not--and I'm iffy/on the fence on that, even.

I think personal level of maturity and whether or not one takes the high or low road in life is what would determine that, more than any sign or placement.

Nobody makes a person cheat--you can't cop out and say "oh, I can't be held personally responsible--my chart made me do it". Cheating is a personal choice (and a bad one at that).

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posted October 05, 2012 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the sag people I know are surprisely loyal; even the moons

oh wait..
only till offical commitment

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posted October 05, 2012 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
regardesplatero i agree about not completely depending on someones astrology chart as why/if they sniff around. The fact is, it's a psychological problem- it is what it is.

But looking at someone's full natal chart could bring out a certain design that could make the person more prone to cheating

Like the compulsive cheater I listed above,
that person has a stable/possessive venus and moon but also has mars is aquarius
-more prone to unconventional sex
-more prone to experiment sexually
-more prone to boredom from lack of excitement

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posted October 05, 2012 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my experience fire rising with venus/mars in virgo

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posted October 05, 2012 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 05, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this from Comic Technologics website:

Statistics of unfaithfulness

MEN
-neptune and venus or almost always involved.
combo, secret-love affairs.
-venus as the ruler ascendant (tarurus & libra) with aspect to juno orb 3*.
-mercury as the ruler to 8th house (gemini & virgo) with aspect to ascandant orb 3*
-the ruler of the 7th house cusp between 22* 23* scorpio
-mars square uranus
-neptune trine MC
-moon square chiron
-juno retrograde
-moon in aries
-moon in pisces
-moon in 11th house

WOMEN
-mars in sag
-mars in capricorn
-venus in aquarius
-the ruler of 7th house is in capricorn
-moon in aries
(they doing more research on the women)

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posted October 05, 2012 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People harp on and on about Sagittarius and Gemini but I honestly don't think they cheat any more than say a Leo or Scorpio, or any sun sign for that matter. Look at Leo sun Cap moon Arnold Schwarzenegger, he OPENLY cheated on his wife, and even publicly said he dgaf. I see Gem and Sag as very flirtatious. But the mutability might be a culprit.
One of my girlfriends was/is in a relationship with two guys long-distance, I doubt they know of each other and she has mutable Moon, Mars, and possibly Venus but it's on the cusp of Aries/Pisces. Then again, she has Sun-Uranus aspect and I read somewhere they might think they need multiple relationships to compensate for feeling antsy in one spot.
I have Moon in Aries, would not call myself a cheater and never have but I don't see anything wrong with dating multiple people at a time, but commitment to a relationship or marriage is a different story. But I could understand how, as Moon in Aries wants what it wants at the spur of a moment.

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posted October 05, 2012 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brightwhites     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a guy. He had two girlfriends, and his reasoning besides that they went to different schools and didn't know each other, is that it is less sad when one breaks up with him. Wow~

He has a Pisces Sun/Libra Asc/Virgo Moon/Cancer Mars/Venus in Aries. I don't know if I would blame any of the planets, I think it has to do with Uranus and Neptune.

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posted October 05, 2012 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JLyn ~:
All the sag people I know are surprisely loyal; even the moons

oh wait..
only till offical commitment


i know 3 sag moon girls whove cheated
a sag sun guy who cheated and a sag sun girl who cheated


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posted October 05, 2012 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the two bfs i have had i know have cheated on me were air suns/cancer moons/cardinal risings

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posted October 05, 2012 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a sag moon and I will say if the relationship is boring or we feel unloved we tend to seek outside satisfaction.

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posted October 05, 2012 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
i know 3 sag moon girls whove cheated
a sag sun guy who cheated and a sag sun girl who cheated



Oh I believe it : D
i actually think most cheaters are sag men and women
but the ones i know that got married all made a complete change hanging-up their player hat to be family oriented and devoted

But that's just the sags 'i know' that
fell madly in love

I quess now the question should be;
How long they ganna stay faithful
haaa

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posted October 05, 2012 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sexyaqua30,


Thank you for being straight up : )
but this forum is about being compulsive with cheating, like someone that needs 3,4,5,6 on the side as backups or play

so...
let me ask

Do you keep your phones passcode a secret from girlfriend and get 2am calls from tiff, rachelle, and kristy? : P

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posted October 05, 2012 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to say, I know people with some of the supposedly problematic positions who have not cheated.

Basically, in my book, there is no excuse for cheating. Even if one is highly tempted, they DO always have a choice not to do it.

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posted October 05, 2012 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, well it pains me to admit it but yes, I have a 'roaming eye'... not proud of it and it's tied to my need for love and affection. So if I feel unfulfilled or really bored - SAG RISING! eek - in a relationship I just can't wait it out sometimes, and I give into the tendency to flirt or check other people out.

But so far I've compressed my urges - Jupiter conjunct my Venus in Scorpio - because I get guilty easily when betraying someone else. But I just don't know. Right now I feel emotionally and romantically unfulfilled by my partner. I feel like I can't let him go but I need someone else at the same time...

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posted October 05, 2012 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I have to say, I know people with some of the supposedly problematic positions who have not cheated.

Basically, in my book, there is no excuse for cheating. Even if one is highly tempted, they DO always have a choice not to do it.



Agree

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posted October 05, 2012 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Infidelity in the Natal Chart

Can you tell he's a cheater, just by looking at his chart? Here are some indicators in that natal chart that may indicate infidelity. Taken alone, however, these aspects do not guarantee infidelity.

Moon square Venus:

This is especially true for men with this aspect. The Moon and Venus are feminine planets, and often play a role in the kind of partner we desire. The Moon represents our emotions and what makes us feel secure, while Venus represents how we give and receive love.

When these planets are in square aspect to one another, our emotional needs are at odds with our needs and capacity to love. This can cause many problems, as it is difficult for the Moon square Venus native to have both needs fulfilled by just one person.

For example, say I have Moon in Aries square Venus in Capricorn: on one hand, I am emotionally fulfilled by aggressive, direct, and passionate people. However, aggression and passion to not "agree" with my Venus in Capricorn nature; it is unattractive to me, as Venus in Capricorn prefers shy, stable, drama-free mates.

Also, we can think of this in terms of synastry: if my partner's Mars is in Capricorn, and therefore is in conjunct aspect to my Venus, I feel a tremendous sexual attraction to my partner. However, it would also mean that my partner's Mars squares my Moon, which leads to heated arguments and hurt feelings.

As a result, the native finds it difficult to find a partner who fulfills both their Moon and Venus needs, and might choose to have two partners: one who makes him emotionally secure, and one that makes him feel loved and attracted. This can also indicate a Madonna-***** complex; the native may have the inability to see his or her partner as both a nurturing type (moon) and a sexual being (Venus). To solve this dilemma, the native may choose to take on two partners in order to have these needs fulfilled. JFK had this aspect, and he was known for his affairs.

Uranus in hard aspect (conjunction, square, opposition) to Venus OR Uranus in the 7th house:

Uranus is the planet of freedom, rebellion, unpredictability. When in hard aspect to Venus or in the 7th house, the native craves freedom, variety, and excitement in relationships. It is difficult for these natives to "settle down" into a "normal" relationship because of many reasons. For instance, relationships might make them feel restricted, bored, or they may constantly crave "newness" in relationships. Its the initial feeling of getting into a relationship which excites them, so as time goes by, their interest may gradually decrease for their partner and their relationship. Bored of the everyday, "hum-drum" aspects of "regular" relationships, the Venus-Uranus/Uranus in the 7th house native may seek excitement outside the relationship.

Neptune in hard aspect to Venus/Venus in Pisces/Neptune in the 7th:

With this placement, idealization of partners in common. The native has an idealistic view of relationships and love in general, and is on a constant search for their soul mate. They daydream about their ideal mate, and the kind of relationships they envision are other-worldly. Real relationships, however, are difficult; they require a tremendous amount of work, compromise, and often include conflict. This is the precise reason why people with these placements have such a hard time with relationships.

Real relationships rarely live up to the ideal relationships they often dream about, and when confronted with these realities, the native may choose to quietly exit the relationship, leaving their partner wondering where it all went wrong.

People with these placements are attracted to the unattainable. When someone isn't yours, it is easy to keep the fantasy of them alive because you'll never be confronted with the realities of a real relationship with them. This ties in to the fact that Venus in Pisces often find themselves in the role of the "other woman" or "other man"; they get all the romance and fantasy of a relationship without having to deal with the hard work that comes with it.

Similarly, Venus in Pisces natives are sometimes described as "cheaters" for the same reason; if in a relationships, the "realities" of the relationship may push them away from their mate into the arms of another. Venus in Pisces will not be forthright about their infidelity, however; they are too concerned about hurting you to ever admit they were unfaithful. If confronted, Venus in Pisces may deny the infidelity with an innocent, "who, me?" look. It's rare for a Venus in Pisces to leave their mate; they'd rather you leave them than the other way around.

Venus in Gemini:

Gemini craves variety and gets bored at the drop of a hat. In Venus, Gemini craves variety in relationships. This sign needs to move around, experiment, and communicate with others in order to keep itself happy. The sign Gemini is represented by the twins, which reflects Gemini's dual nature. Indeed, you will often find Gemini-influenced natives having "two" of everything. For a Gemini Venus, this would mean having two relationships. Gemini is a mutable sign; they can adapt to different situations seamlessly, so they have the ability to flutter between two relationships with relative ease. Venus in Gemini are big flirts; Gemini is ruled by Mercury, so they certainly have the gift of the gab and are talented at seducing people with words.

Moon in Aries:

This placement is often regarded as a "cheater aspect" because of Aries' passionate, impulsive, "act before you think" nature. Indeed, Moon in Aries natives often disregard potential consequences for their actions in favor of instant gratification.
http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!infidelity-in-the-natal-chart/c8ye

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JLyn ~
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posted October 06, 2012 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all that info Starfairy!


I think it's safe to say when you see a
neptune square venus in a potentials natal chart
::::RED ALERT::::
::::RED ALERT::::
might wanna reavaluate it cause that person has a higher chance of looking outside the relationship

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posted October 06, 2012 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
-Moon square Venus
-Venus conjoins Mars in Scorpio
-Scorpio in Jupiter
-Sun square Pluto


Hmm, my chart suggest I should be a player and have several relationships at once, or one night stands etc.

I've never cheated on a partner a single time.

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posted October 07, 2012 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Confession

My negative aspects :
sun square pluto
mercury square pluto
venus square chiron
venus aqaurius
mars square jupiter conjuction uranus
with a triple pisces- ascendant, moon, mars

I'm completely loyal now...
except one time back in my early 20's in a boring/not getting healthy love kinda relationship i was starting to think of a way to leave him but he worked weeks at a time and i wanted to end it face to face, out of respect. Nothing planned me and this cool guy I worked with hit it off and had me laughing again with butterflies, then we got together which was NOTHING I was dreaming about. 7 years later I still regret it. The guilt reminds you, and it takes years to regain your self respect

My ex never found out.

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