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starfairy
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posted October 07, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We recently found out that Rihanna and Chris Brown are back together. Again. Their reunion has sparked a lot of debate over whether she should have taken him back, considering the fact that he physically abused her. Let's take a look at what the stars have to say about this controversial couple!

​ Rihanna's Birth Chart​

Rihanna has her Sun in Pisces. People with their Suns in this sign are known for their extreme compassion, sympathy, and forgiveness. Pisces is ruled by Neptune, the planet of delusion, self-sacrifice, and martyrdom. Pisceans tend to look for the best in people, and gloss over their faults. Pisceans tend to live in a dream world, and are often out of touch with reality. Pisces people are probably the most likely to stay in abusive relationships; they make excuses for their partners due to their habit of focusing on the positives. In fact,
they often see people for who they are not, which puts them at risk of ending up in relationships involving abuse, infidelity, and exploitation.

If this wasn't enough, Rihanna's chart features a Venus square Neptune aspect. This emphasizes Rihanna's Piscean traits, especially in terms of her relationships. When you have Venus square Neptune in your
chart, the risk of idealization, delusion, and illusions in regards to your relationships increases. This aspect indicates Rihanna tends to be blinded by love. She tends to see the best in Chris and ignores his faults. She makes excuses for Chris' shortcomings, and is easily seduced by his advances. It is difficult to reason with individuals with this placement, especially when it comes to their love lives.


Pamela Anderson has this aspect in her chart. Her ex-husband, Tommy Lee, was very physically abusive towards her during their three-year marriage. Pamela eventually had him arrested, but was waiting outside
the jail for him the day he got out, and the two reconciled. Whitney Houston's Sun and Venus are squared by her Natal Neptune, and we all remember her abusive relationship with Bobby Brown. We all wondered
why in the world she withstood Bobby's abuse, but it becomes clear when you consider her natal chart.

Where Mars lands in our chart tells us the area in which we will experience aggression and conflict. In Rihanna's chart, her Mars lands in her 7th house, the house of one-on-one partnerships, which indicates she experiences violence, abuse, and aggression in her relationships. Not surprisingly, Whitney Houston has Mars in her 7th house, as well. Rihanna's Mars is conjunct her natal Uranus, which indicates her relationships contain sudden conflicts, as well as many sudden separations. Indeed, her and Chris have been on and off for years. Rihanna's Mars is also conjunct her natal Saturn in her 7th house, which indicates she takes her relationships very seriously, and has tremendous staying power. She has tremendous determination in making her relationships work.

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C1ND3R
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posted October 07, 2012 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rihanna's mother and father have had a similar relationship. It's also had her grow up seeing her mother being abused. Just an fyi.

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Dreaming111
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posted October 07, 2012 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
Rihanna's mother and father have had a similar relationship. It's also had her grow up seeing her mother being abused. Just an fyi.

And I'm sure that their charts would indicate something along those lines.

Also, in vedic astrology the kids tend to inherit certain parental aspects. Maybe that was the case here?

Thirdly, not everyone in an abusive family goes back to those roots and not everyone in a sane happy family will inherit that.

Also I'm not in anyway defending Brown. But with your assumption that Rihanna saw abuse and replicated that in her life....Brown saw the same things happen to his mother and father...

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Dreaming111
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posted October 07, 2012 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starfairy, I have a question.

Would mars in the 8th house imply rape?

I have neptune in opposition to sun, mars, true node, sesquiquadrate venus, inconjunct chiron. (All those planets in genini.) It's semisquare my Asc and trines my MC. It also sextile saturn, pluto.

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PhoenixFire
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posted October 07, 2012 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is any information available for Brown's birth chart? It'd be interesting to look into their synastry and composite. They are both so talented and young, it's such a shame for him to be of violent tendency and for her to be victimized.

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starfairy
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posted October 07, 2012 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems like Chris' parents had an abusive relationship, too, according to the article (Pluto in the 4th opposite his stellium in the 10th)

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VenusDiSirius
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posted October 07, 2012 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris tob was found on his Twitter but Rihanna is not confirmed. She has Nep over Sun...

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AscTaurus
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posted October 08, 2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually analyze the big three and so, according to Astrotheme, Chris Brown has his Ascendant in Leo, Sun and Moon in Taurus.

Rihanna, on the other hand, has her Ascendant in Gemini and her Sun/Moon in Pisces/Aries respectively.

Chris’ moon in Taurus describes someone who is extremely introverted and private. The moon here is deliberate and often listens to their inner hunch and “what they know for sure” than the advice/comments of others. This is how they keep that “inner peace” thing that they are legendary known for.

The moon in this position, however, must be careful in being "too" self-sufficient: Often, when relating to others, the Taurus moon has to learn to balance their inner awareness with the awareness of the other parties needs.

Often, it can be that the Taurus moon can be so inwardly focused, that they tend to forget about the other party in the relationship. This may cause the other party to feel alienated or only called for “service” to satisfy the lunar Taurian’s needs: Awareness of self but also of others needs to be cultivated by this position.

The moon is not in a comfortable position in the Midheaven; making Chris’ need to relate personally with others (moon) very much clash with a rigid , consistent, public image (Midheaven): He may be forced to focus on public life and areas very much outside the private relationship. He definitely wouldn’t want it that way, but then again, celebrity culture may have made it inevitable.

In public, he may project a stoic public image (Taurus 10th house). But in private or in one-on-one he may be very personal.

Now Rihanna seems to be very different but similar in temperament(oddly enough).

Rihanna has her moon in feisty Aries; a likely position (notwithstanding Aquarius) to court controversy without batting an eyelid.

Aries moon is all about action, instinct and living from what you feel. It is a fiery temperament that has little regard for boundaries and rules.

The moon in this position is not at its best; people with this position come across as macho, aggressive, pushy and conceited: Whereas the moon here should be passive, “other concerned” nurturing and gentle.

Aries moon should try to harness their needs in a way that won’t be detrimental to the people they relate to. There is so much self-centeredness in this position that the person concerned may seem very selfish in relation with others. Spontaneous decision, for instance, that involve two people, will often be made by one person (usually the Aries moon) without consulting/forgetting all about the other.

In a patriarchal society that we live in, however, this position of the moon is seen as “strong” and “bold”; especially in a field where such traits are needed to cultivate success(in this instance, the Entertainment industry)

Now the moon is also not very comfortable in the 11th house either; it makes the need to for personal contact and majority interests (moon) clash very much with the principles of the 11th house; the minorities, their ideals and reform of standing structures:It is often a position of someone who condescends the majority ideals in favour of the minority principles. A steady, docile consistent life can be swapped easily for a more, exciting, “different”, even “momentary” existence.

The moon in Aries in 11th will only add to this detachment from relating to the majority group, by making her, champion, fight for and even initiate the minority group’s ideals for reform and change.
One on one, however, she is very relatable and honest; it can even seem like you understand or know her.

It’s unlikely that she’ll be shy or cryptic when answering question. The Aries impulsive nature always wants to just “put it out there” in a no holds barred type of fashion-rarely concerned with what others think.

Now the two of them together is interesting because you have two very self-focused individuals who are trying to relate to each other as well as define their relationship within the public.

Both can be so self-focused and not budge to the other’s influence. Aries moon, especially, can get pushy and forceful when what they want is not forthcoming whilst Taurus moon can be indolent and defensive in the face of aggression.

The two may not rub each other right all the time, but because both are very much in the public eye and both are young, they may have more in common than the average Aries/Taurus moons which are not in the same position.

I think it is more a contextual relationship. I don’t think that they are “match made in heaven” duo. And so this could be a relationship that just “makes sense”.

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starfairy
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posted October 08, 2012 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Sun conjunct his 7th house North Node is really powerful..

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