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Lioness
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posted October 12, 2012 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or what does??
Im talking about in relationships either in synastry or composite.

As an example if you want to leave, but cant because you get this overwhelming feeling of guilt...

What is that?

Whats the purpose of feeling guilty?

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sweet-scorpion
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posted October 12, 2012 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the guilt comes with the sense of failure in giving up.

You feel unnaturally bound to and responsible for where your Saturn falls/what major contacts it makes in the chart especially with difficult placements and hard aspects.

Saturn is karmic. When we don't complete the duties, the very difficult and mature ones that cause us to grow ourselves, we feel incomplete and sometimes ashamed. We also feel we've failed ourselves and get sick over the messy loose ends.

EXAMPLE: My Saturn falls in my SO's 7th and opposes his natal Venus. I have a very strong desire to restructure him and mature him in terms of commitments and serious relationships. Yet at times I get sick of the flakiness, the immaturity, the bad attitudes... but at the same time, I feel almost ill at the idea of backing out before I have seen the fruits of my labor with him. I've worked so hard already to make him grounded in Venusian/7th house areas, and quitting would seem like I've thrown it all away.

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posted October 13, 2012 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CRCRINCON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have too much Virgo (sun, mercury, mars) and too much Saturn in my chart...Saturn in Cancer in 7th and Rising Cap. My personality feels far from a Virgo or Cap in my mind (strong moon in Aquarius)...except for all of this Virgo and Saturn energy...it leaves me feeling guilty and self conscious way too much. Not a fan.

As far as how it plays out with relationships...no guilt to stay with anyone ever. So no Saturn has never guilted me to stay. But I do feel bad if I do anything that has hurt a loved one. It hurts me to the bone...interesting!...Saturn/cap rules bones. Ha!

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Lioness
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posted October 13, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes i think u have it....im stuck between logic and guilt..
I keep trying to end this.. Im not answering his phone calls, and im over ridden with guilt....
I know deep down walking away is for the best...

But i keep thinking what if...... I feel bad for ignoring his calls....
He's not letting me leave easily...

He keeps pulling me back in... I keep saying ok next week...then next.. And it never works....

How do i know what's best...

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lalalinda
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posted October 13, 2012 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a comparison chart Saturn contacts would feel "secure" but also restricted.

The aspects I look out for are
Saturn conjunct Mars (timing is off)
Saturn in hard aspect to Venus (you don't mesh)
Saturn conjunct Moon (feels more like a sibling)

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Linda Jones
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posted October 13, 2012 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lioness.

I think a strong Neptune can also make one feel guilty. The thought of hurting another cannot be easily tolerated by empathic Neptune.

Also if someone is being manipulative in making you feel guilty, then Pluto could be at the core. One of the ways Pluto manipulates is through guilt.

So I would look to see what Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto are doing. I think Jupiter and Uranus are probably guilt free

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Lioness
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posted October 13, 2012 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No he's not doing anything... I haven't answered his phone calls... I just feel bad abt It...

Considering the male prespective... He prob can't fiqure out what he's done..lol

I'm holding my ground... I haven't spoken to him...
I haven't returned his calls....

So Neptune can give u guilty feelings?

Euhhhh

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JLyn ~
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posted October 14, 2012 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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