posted October 13, 2012 03:25 PM            

Mars is in detriment in Libra. Pluto is in fall in Libra and in accordance with some sources in detriment in Libra.

posted October 13, 2012 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
Since when pluto is weak in libra?

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posted October 13, 2012 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by curious girl:
Isnīt it?

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Pluto is domicile in scorpio and in detirement in taurus

posted October 13, 2012 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by curious girl:
Isnīt it?

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posted October 13, 2012 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by curious girl:
See here for example: http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology_planetary-rulerships.php

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posted October 13, 2012 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I suppose Pluto would be the leader, as Mars is in detriment like you said. But I haven't heard of Pluto being weak in Libra (or strong in Aries) before.

I read that Pluto is exalted in Leo...

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posted October 13, 2012 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
Never heard of it outside that site...and they arent even sure about it...

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They are not, thatīs what makes me wonder.

posted October 13, 2012 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
well see ...
I read this somewhere , new rulers introduced by modern astrology : uranus, neptune and pluto , don't have any form of energy as exaltation, fall and detriment.

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Hmm, could be.

Found it. Sue Tompkins, The Contemporary Astrologerīs Handbook:

Pluto rules Scorpio, is exalted in Aries, in detriment is in Taurus and in fall in Libra.

posted October 13, 2012 04:03 PM            

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Pluto Exalted in Aries - Both Aries and Pluto love change and all that is new.

Pluto in Fall in Libra - the sign of the balance, seeks neither change nor anything new.

Pluto is exalted in Aries. Pluto in the position contributes to a powerful character with remarkable recuperative powers. Sexually sadism and violence is indicated. This person is a violent and dangerous character who has murderous tendencies. This placement is often associated with war and soldiers. This placement would make a fine surgeon also.

Pluto in Libra is in its fall. Pluto Libra portends difficulty through marriage, partnerships and open enemies. Relationships can lead to sweeping change. There could be violence or domestic abuse within a marriage. This placement is often associated with the death of a spouse. It is an excellent placement for legal research or paralegal.

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posted October 15, 2012 06:26 AM            

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Pluto Exalted in Aries - Both Aries and Pluto love change and all that is new.

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Aries is about birth. Pluto is about rebirth through transformation. Not the same.

posted August 09, 2013 05:06 PM            

This isn't even a competition. Mars will win hands down. This isn't just an opinion either. When it comes to strength, this is Mars domain. He is the fighter, he is the soldier, he is the gladiator, he is the competitor, he is the warrior and he cannot be defeated. He is number one.

When it comes to Pluto, he is the investigator, he is the private detective, he is the captivator, he is the Shaman, he is the door to the ultimate truth. What good does fighting have for Pluto? He is master of his own domain and is above the realm of fighting because he is all too familiar with life's mysterious and why fighting occurs in the first place. He can see through it all and transforms you with his touch, that gives you all knew knowledge of what life is really about. In that way, he transforms you.

Like I said, this is not a competition here. Does a Psychologist or a Shaman step into the cage and fight hand to hand with a trained killer? No. Not only is it not his forte-he is not even about it.

Let's take for example a person who has a strong Mars placement(Mars Conjunct Sun) vs someone with a strong Pluto placement (Pluto Conjunct Sun) and see what happens. I've seen this episode before in real life. The Pluto person may (maybe out of foolishness) try to go against, compete, fight with the Mars Conjunct Sun person only to realize that he is no match for the Martian. He is quickly overcome and dominated by the Martian(I've seen it personally).
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The Pluto person may have something in store for the Martian that he or she never realized. That there are forces out there beyond the Martians control-a destiny of events to take place-that the Pluto person has Conjured, not to win, but to realize on a higher level-to be transformed by such an experiance that you see life in a new light that you would have before. Death and Rebirth.

Not to say that Pluto cannot hurt unsuspecting Mars. There are plenty of people who misuse this planets energy to create extremely negative events-and in doing so, they have only hurt themselves in the long run. That's when Saturn steps in for he is the ultimate judge. Even in such a case that a person misuses the power of Pluto over the unsuspecting Martin, that is not even a victory. That's just predatory behavior that anyone could do-with evil intentions. It has proven nothing...

posted January 29, 2014 12:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Consider not only the sign but the house. Is either planet in rulership, exaltation, debility or fall by house position?

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How about this conjunction in the 8th house?

posted January 29, 2014 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Aries is about birth. Pluto is about rebirth through transformation. Not the same.

I seriously doubt Pluto is exalted in Aries and in fall in Libra. I don't believe Pluto has an exaltation or fall sign, only domicile and detriment.

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That's how I learned it as well. Rules Scorpio and in detriment in Taurus.