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sis
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posted October 13, 2012 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As mentioned on the subject, transiting Pluto in my 1st house making conjunction to my asc, sun, mercury, venus and also trs. Pluto is opposing my natal Saturn.

This plutonic energy has started to take its toll on me. I am doing my best to cope but some days dark thoughts invade my soul and I just want to leave the planet...

Plus, trs. Saturn conjunct Uranus-10th.. My Uranus transits are another story..

Is there anyone who is facing smilar aspects and would be grateful if you can share your experiences.. by this way, I might convince myself that all shall pass and I am not loosing my mind.

( My natal moon is in Gemini )


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posted October 13, 2012 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto squares my sun,mercury,mars,saturn in natal chart,does not conjunct my ascendant but is in first house.Conjunction to so many planets is definitely hard to cope with.It must be overwhelming especially if pluto is not strong in your natal chart.Pluto strips you of your identity,makes you feel vulnerable,shows you your inner core and transforms it completely.Transit Pluto conjuct ascendant is a difficult transit,it happens once in 248 years so half of us dont get the chance to face it in a lifetime.It will completely transform your presence,how you appear to others(not necessarily appearance),what vibe you give.It will make you deeper than before,makes you value your inner core.Transit pluto conjunct sun transforms your identity.What you may think you are on the inside may not really be what you are on the inside.It shows you the real you.T. Pluto conjunct mercury transforms how you communicate,no more superficiality and fakeness in communication.It also provides you with insights.T. pluto opposite saturn is quite karmic.In my own experience,pluto-saturn is all about consequences.I have always paid for my mistakes in my life.Try to keep things simple.T.pluto may make you want to transform different structures in your life but your saturn opposes it.Be careful about transit pluto conjuct venus,it may push you into unhealthy,obsessive relationship but you may also get involved in a healthy,passionate relationship.You will evolve with your partner.It will make your love life lot deeper.All these pluto transits takes a massive toll but remember you will be lot stronger after it completes.Dont try to oppose it,just go along with pluto.

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posted October 14, 2012 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez! I was wondering when someone was going to bring this topic up. I just had an idea that I'd start a thread with people who have personal planets in cardinal signs(as they are most affected by transiting Pluto in Cap)

Well my stats are;
Transiting Pluto trine Ascendant
Conjunction with my Sun(wide)
Opposition with my moon (wide)
conjunction with my Mercury(close)
Square with my Mars(wide)


I think the conjunction with mercury is the most hardest felt. Dark thoughts? Deep introspection? Wanting to have meaningful conversations? Wanting to shed light on some pending mental issues? Yeah, that's what it is.

The moon opposition to Pluto has gotten me seeking self-imposed exile. I don't want unexpected visitors crowding my space and I am very selective as to whom I share my personal space with right now(I've always been this way actually, but this transit is really making things worse)

This Moon-Pluto opposition is also contributing to the touchy Moon-Mars square nataly. I feel more defensive about my personal life right now and just the other day, some guy said something very homophobic that wasn't directed at me specifically; I bit his head off!

The square with Mars has increased my sex drive(oh yes) and made me more daring and open when pursuing someone.

I feel like I am the predator right now and am letting all my intention be more "out there"(not sure if that is a Pluto thing; seeing that Pluto is very private)

I am coping well with the Pluto transit, I must just be wise in using the energy at my disposal productively for the next 5 years.

But I'm sure we'll be having this conversation again sometime soon.

What about Uranus transits? They affect my Moon, Mercury and Mars too. Do you feel them too?

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posted October 14, 2012 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you so much for your replies.

anonymidarkness; all of what you said is relevant to what I am going through. Except the pluto-venus conjunction but it is because the orb is wide for the time being… My problem is the changes I feel inside are not positive. Before people used to say I am someone who can tolerate the world. Now, my friends say I am too tough, have very sharp edges and they are frightened of making a move that might put me off. It’s not like I shout or fight.. The intensity of my presence, the way I look, the way I sound, the way I use words… Another thing is paranoia. I constantly feel like people are trying to manipulate me. I keep reading in between the lines. I keep sensing insincerity. My privacy need is extreme. When people expose themselves too much, I judge them. Me ? who used be non-judgemental, who could be friends with just anyone…
Jeaolusy is the other monster. I have never been a jeaolus type. Not at all… But it has been a while since I started to experience unpleasant feelings against the people who are a success, who is living the life I wanted for myself. And I hate this. ( Progressed Moon is in Scorpio ) There is just too much agony. I beat myself too much. Bruising my ego, my identity… It’s like my whole evolution is going backwards.

( Pluto is quite strong in my natal chart.. squares my sun, squares my mercury, trines my moon and sextiles my mars )

Asctaurus; conjunction with mercury “Dark thoughts? Deep introspection? Wanting to have meaningful conversations? Wanting to shed light on some pending mental issues?” Yeap, that’s how it is. I am glad to hear that you can cope with Pluto transit. And then the inner voice says “ what the hell is wrong with me, why can’t I ?” I see a crack in everything…

Transit Uranus is in the 4th house and aspects are;
Trs. Uranus square my sun ( exact ), Trs.Uranus square nat. ascendant ( exact ), Trs. Uranus oppose nat. Pluto, Trs.Uranus square nat.mercury both within 3 deg. orbs seperating, Trs. saturn conjuncts nat. Uranus ( exact )

I am not sure what Uranus effects are on my life. Last year, I had to move back to my parents house due to leaving my corporate job ( quite suddenly ) to be free and to launch an on-line business. There is a very slow progress for the time being. So, in a way I am homeless but stuck in my parents house. Nothing major happened within the house, with the family. Same old frustrations exist. No matter what they do, I still feel responsible against them. No sudden seperations from my friends either.

My natal Uranus is in 10th house conjunct my MC ( plasidus ). Also, sextiles my sun.

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posted October 14, 2012 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 14, 2012 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 15, 2012 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transit Uranus is in the 4th house and aspects are;
Trs. Uranus square my sun ( exact ), Trs.Uranus square nat. ascendant ( exact ), Trs. Uranus oppose nat. Pluto, Trs.Uranus square nat.mercury both within 3 deg. orbs seperating, Trs. saturn conjuncts nat. Uranus ( exact )

I am not sure what Uranus effects are on my life. Last year, I had to move back to my parents house due to leaving my corporate job ( quite suddenly ) to be free and to launch an on-line business. There is a very slow progress for the time being. So, in a way I am homeless but stuck in my parents house. Nothing major happened within the house, with the family. Same old frustrations exist. No matter what they do, I still feel responsible against them. No sudden seperations from my friends either.

My natal Uranus is in 10th house conjunct my MC ( plasidus ). Also, sextiles my sun.

Uranus transits aren't always about erratic changes or uncomfortable disruptions. Look around, see how important female figures are now behaving. Are there habitual patterns(moon) that you are trying to change? Is your home not very stable? Are people in your personal space/environment a little more rebellious and refusing to make life easy for you?

In my case, I feel this transit as well as the Saturn one too. But let me start with Uranus; as this is what our discussion is all about.

Uranus transits are usualy the type that do away with the mundane and boring in order to be more with the exciting and innovative.

If you are already doing something that is invigorating and exciting within the area of life that Uranus affects, then the transits are likley to bring sudden flashes of brilliance or inspiration.

If you are not, which btw is most of the population of the world. Uranus will throw a spanner in the works of th area of life that is affected.

For instance, if your life is unsatisfying and is a far cry from the more fast-paced existence you have alwys pictured yourself living, then Uranus transit can have you initiate changes within your life that will disrupt habitual pattrens established and may even cause you to lose support(or be labeled as being "rebellious")

My life is, career wise, is far from satisfying and so I know that this is the area of life that is most likely to be affected. Uranus is the ruler of my 10th house.

But , together with the 10th house, the other areas of life conncted to Uranus are those being aspected by the transit planet nataly(by square, opposition, conjunction, trine or sextile)

Mine are

Uranus Sun square
Uranus-Moon square
Uranus-Mercury square
Uranus Mars opposition
Uranus transiting 12th

I just feel tired of the "same old" "same old". Lately, nothing much excites me and I feel bored with people who are interested in keeping things as is.

I am draggig a conversation that I am going to be having with my mother, as I fear that she won't be supportive. Its with regards to a total career change. Yikes!

At the moment, I feel that I don't have a definite support structure in my life. Or that I simply don't belong exactly where I thought I would . And this feeling may sound very vague but its in conncetion with the intimate groups that I thought I belonged in.

All these are manisfesattions that I can see. I am certain there are others that are more subtlle and I could be confusing Pluto transits with Uranus transits(because the effects are so similar).

However, upon reading Cafeastrology, I stumbled upon some readings that just "clicked" so much I laughed -because they were so apt:


Pluto transits conjunct Sun
~During this time, you will have to face up to the real, inner you - the person you were meant to be and not the person you were taught to be. For years you may have avoided "gut" personal issues, ignored what you wanted and concentrated on what you thought others expected of you. But no more!

Your strongest desire at this time might be to make a totally new start - change homes or even towns, divorce your marriage partner and in extreme cases refuse custody of your children.

Conditions you have tolerated in the past, even though they may have caused you pain or unhappiness, are now swept aside. Realizing your potential will become your primary goal. Depending on how frustrating your life has been, the changes coming your way can undermine the very foundations of your security.

Pluto brings about drastic, revolutionary changes, but ones which are necessary to halt the process of stagnation and instigate continued growth.


These changes cannot be resisted entirely, although your tendency might be to desperately cling to the status quo. One of the lessons you will learn is that change is necessary - all things which have lapsed into a cult routine or become meaningless will be cleared away to make room for more progressive attitudes and creative activities.

This transit of the Sun brings about the need to understand yourself on a deep, inner level, much deeper than the image you normally show to the world.

There is also a need to get to root causes. Exactly why do I act in this way? Why am I afraid ? Who am I really? These questions, and more, must now be answered. During this time, you can put together the pieces of the puzzle of your life. Psycho-analysis, consciousness-raising groups, meditation and introspection can help you to achieve deeper self-understanding, which will lead to greater self control and greater utilization of your potentials. --


Uranus transits trine Sun

A time during which you may be able to break through and move ahead with your ambitions and general life's purpose. You could receive unexpected help from someone older or from authority figures.

A spirit of openness, curiosity, and "divine discontent" moves through you in this time, and the forces around and within you are less resistant to change. If you have been trying to free yourself of some old, limiting, debilitating habit or to garner the courage to create, experiment, or plunge into new territory, now is the time.

You may branch out in an entirely new direction. If you are involved in work that is creative, innovative, unusual, or unconventional, you experience an influx of inspiration as well as support for what you are doing.

Uranus transits square Moon

~The urge to "express yourself" takes hold; and since expressing yourself generally means doing something you aren't supposed to do, this is likely to be a period of strange behaviour.

You tend to kick over the traces and run wild with whatever ideas you have been suppressing up until now. You can see your complexes and your subconscious in the cold light of day if you are sufficiently in possession of yourself to look for them.

Use self control here to direct your energies into some useful channel: remember that "being yourself' is important only when the "self you are being is worth the effort. To be, or become, your best self as a result of this transit is to harness your magnetism, your originality and your creative talents for all time. To run wild is to accumulate a fine crop of wild oats to be mowed down and carted away later.

*Impatience, sudden outbursts of emotions, and the need to break free from stifling, uncomfortable situations are key issues now. During this time period you periodically become overwhelmed with the feeling that you need to make changes and make them NOW.

+An urge to change and try new things may challenge and upset your domestic scene or support system. In this case, your tendency to rebel acts at cross-purposes to those who care for you. A no-win situation that requires treading a fine line on your part.

Uranus transits square Mercury

*Be extremely careful in all practical affairs at this time. You tend to overlook details, forget to consider some aspect of a problem, and make silly mistakes. Forgetfulness can be a serious problem.

+A tendency to act suddenly, without thought or consideration. A lot of mental tension or worry stemming from a rebellion against ideas, the way you think and communicate. An urge to break out of old mental patterns that could be destructive.

Uranus transits opposite Mars

*Courageous and undaunted, you step boldly forth, assert yourself, and charge ahead. If you are normally shy and receding, you will burst out of your shell now. If you are a strong and aggressive person, then you will try to take full command of every aspect of your life, and force weaker personalities to submit to you and support you.

+Unexpected behavior and an urge to be independent could find you ignoring your feelings and much of what has motivated you up to now, taking you off in a different direction. Your unusual behavior could provoke others, cause emotional confrontation.


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posted October 15, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AscTaurus, thank you so much giving your time.

My family life is very unstable. But it has been always like that. It's a wound that can not be healed. On the last Uranus-Pluto aspect, I got really violent against my ******* brother. the power I felt was so strong that it scared me. I thought in the blink of an eye I could kill him. He is such a massive problem in my family and he is not taking responsibility for his actions. Well, to be honest everyone in my house is erratic,pretty much since I was born. So, I would love Uranus to get me out of here. Tomorrow ? Hell yeah !

My natal Uranus is in the 10th, transiting Uranus is in the 4th. Wonder what will happen when they oppose each other. I have started this on-line business which is Uranian type. And I know that there is still plenty of time to reach my target but I am running out of patience. Lack of money, lack of success, lack of movement,lack of almost everything. It's the first time I am truly chasing a dream of mine and it is causing starvation in every sense. But the worse is there is no going back. I know that I have to make it. Otherwise, as being a double capricorn, I will make myself pay a huge price for being a failure. I can't cope with it. I say to myself if this happens, then I will exit. Suicide. Then I say no you can't do that. I can't leave my nieces who adore me with a memory of an aunt who killed herself. See, I don't even feel free to kill myself ! I just feel responsible against everything, I feel guilty about everything I did, did not do. O,I am such a mess.

" There is also a need to get to root causes. Exactly why do I act in this way? Why am I afraid ? Who am I really? "

Trns. Neptune in the 3rd house does not help either as I feel like it's confusing my mind. I can't give straight answers to any question about myself. Every thought is opposing each other, every belief is up in the air. I have hyper mind and I have many thoughts.. goes on and on.

Let's see where this identity transformation will take me. Death or glory.

Thank God I have life long friends and now Saturn has just stepped in the related house.
I can only hope that since Saturn is in Scorpio, Pluto will act more considerately against Capricorn fellows..

Once again thank you so much


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posted October 16, 2012 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've just finished going through Pluto conjunct Mars, and am currently going though Pluto conjunct Uranus, and Uranus Square Uranus, Neptune&Saturn trine Jupiter. During this transit it seems like everything is falling apart and changing, but in the end the change is usually a lot better. Soon i'll also be going through Pluto conjunct ASC, Pluto Trine Moon, Pluto Opposite Chiron, Pluto Opposite Jupiter, Pluto conjunct Neptune within the next year. then it'll continue to roll through a stellium and conjunct mercury, saturn, and venus and sextile pluto. I better make good friends with pluto... :P

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posted October 16, 2012 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transit pluto just hit an exact sq to my Asc....saturday, and i almost burned my house down!!
It was pouring rain as me and my daughter went to get supplies to make lasagna, the rain was pouring so hard and heavy you couldnt have seen someone right in front of you! All the sudden an emergency vehicle is nearly on top of me, i tried to pull over to let them by but the road was floaded and the water pulled me into a curb...i got out, checked the tire, it looked ok but like i said raining so hard i couldnt see anything very well. Got back in, dripping wet and drove, everything seemed ok until i got to store and made a turn and the wheel started jerking and pulling....UGH! We go into store and my daughter says we need to relax, lets get some wood and start a fire...we do! I get home, start making lasagna and notice the front room filling with smoke....long story short, birds had nested on flu and even tho it seemed open, the weight of the nest was closing it! Nearly burned down my house! Thanks pluto!!

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posted October 16, 2012 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Transit pluto just hit an exact sq to my Asc....saturday, and i almost burned my house down!!
It was pouring ran as me and my daughter went to get supplies to make lasagna, the rain was pouring down so hard and heavy you couldnt have seen someone right in front of you! All the sudden an emergency vehicle is nearly on top of me, i tried to pull over to let them by but the road was floaded and the water pulled me into a curb...i got out, checked the tire, it looked ok but like i said raining so hard i couldnt see anything very well. Got back in, dripping wet and drove, everything seemed ok until i got to store and made a turn and the wheel started jerking and pulling....UGH! We go into store and my daughter says we need to relax, lets get some wood and start a fire...we do! I get home, start making lasagna and notice the front room filling with smoke....long story short, birds had nested on flu and even tho it seemed open, the weight of the nest was closing it! Nearly burned down my house! Thanks pluto!!

Which house is pluto transiting?4th?

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posted October 16, 2012 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Which house is pluto transiting?4th?

Yes, fourth, its aspecting every angle right now!! My Libra AC/Aries DC@7.04...Cap IC/Cancer MC@7.56

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