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Topic: Neptune:Idealization Or Higher Love?
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 22, 2012 04:24 PM
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 4640 From: Surfing Kite. Seriously. Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 22, 2012 04:37 PM
The former,since higher love is idealisation in itself.No,I wouldn't compare Venus/Neptune aspect and other Neptune aspects,especially not those to Mars,Sun or Jupiter because these aren't passive,receptive planets like Venus. I don't think that Sun/Neptune would primarily show in one's love nature - but it often will,since that Neptune will shape woman's choice of men beacuse it aspects Sun (secondary marker for the father,and therefore perfect man) But,Venus/Neptune,that's when sh!t gets (sur)real
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 22, 2012 05:18 PM
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 4640 From: Surfing Kite. Seriously. Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 22, 2012 06:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gemmy: So a DW of Venus/Neptune would be really good?
Stars in their eyes... I'd say it feels divine,if you need / want divine. It could work, too,if the rest of chart presents itself as the balancing act. IP: Logged |
Lava Flower Knowflake Posts: 396 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted October 22, 2012 06:37 PM
Not the hard aspects ime. Look to the aspect the DW makes in the composite tho. The easy aspects (trine, sexile, and the quintiles) will promote creativity and acceptance while the hard aspects are difficult to work with over time and can lead to disillusionment. IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?? Knowflake Posts: 489 From: The Planet Mercury Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 22, 2012 06:52 PM
I read somewhere that Neptune is the higher octave of venus and when contacted by Venus through conjunction, sextile, and trine, acts like a benefic. Venus Neptune harmonious contacts feel like an other worldly love, a love that is surreal and touches deep on the soul. Its a kind of love that just holding the other quietly is like a transcending act. Its almost as if the act of physical sex cheapens it but by no means makes it platonic. Im in no way trying to romanticize this aspect, its just my personal experience. Ive read in many similar threads this is other people's experience as well. On the flip side, some say Venus idealizes Neptune and when Venus takes off the rose colored glasses and sees Neptune for who they really are, they are disappointed. This hasn't been my experience but it has been some others. ------------------ Gemini Sun Libra Moon Gemini Mercury Cancer Venus Virgo Mars Virgo Asc And yes, I'm a guy! IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 22, 2012 08:22 PM
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 4640 From: Surfing Kite. Seriously. Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 22, 2012 09:16 PM
Check how's Neptune involved in the natals,whether the energy is like an alien or familiar.IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 22, 2012 09:36 PM
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Odette Knowflake Posts: 1147 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted October 22, 2012 09:54 PM
Mostly idealisation! IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 22, 2012 10:09 PM
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 4640 From: Surfing Kite. Seriously. Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 22, 2012 10:30 PM
And since it takes two to idealidance where the initiative will come from?
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 22, 2012 10:45 PM
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 23, 2012 12:00 AM
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 23, 2012 12:01 AM
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posted October 23, 2012 12:01 AM
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TreeFrog Newflake Posts: 9 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 23, 2012 03:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gemmy: I would like everyones opinion,please.Also,if there aren't hard venus aspects can neptune aspects make up for it?
It could be either of those, or both. And as far as the last question...my answer is YES, since Neptune is the higher octave of Venus in the first place. If you REALLY wanna be "deep" about it...Venus is love but in a more shallow sense than Neptune, especially if you think about the Venusian association with beauty, Aphrodite, pastimes and other pleasing but relatively superficial things. Neptune is associated with love in the most profound sense, to the point of selflessness and true empathy, and all the traits associated with the sign Pisces, which is the last zodiac sign and said to be the most evolved for those very reasons. Hell, think about the Age of Pisces and the story of Jesus Christ sacrificing Himself for the whole of humanity, which fits that Pisces axis theme of love in the highest, purest sense. Similar to how Mars is just the lower manifestation of Pluto - brute, physical to get what it wants in its purest manifestation. Mars is combat and true aggression. It reminds me of this comment I read in a Natalie Wood bio, where Nicholas Ray told an actor that challenged him to a fist fight, "At some point you're going to have to start using your brains", then walked away from him. Pluto is what you get when it (or you) evolves past the level of using brute force (whether verbal, physical, psychological,whatever), to get what you want. Am I even making any sense here? IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 23, 2012 04:34 AM
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