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Gabby
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posted October 22, 2012 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've started comparing my past relationships with synastry using the love/soul mate/possible hurtful men asteroids...in draco vs. tropical.....im finding draco synastry gives a much more accurate understanding of the relationship...
Has anyone else seen this?

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posted October 22, 2012 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you compare only draco to draco or do you also compare draco to tropical as well? Personally, I find tropical to tropical the most telling but it's always interesting to take note of other people's experiences.

Do you feel that perhaps draco synastry functions in a different way then tropical synastry. Like maybe it's on a different level of experience? I'm interested as to what your insights are.

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posted October 22, 2012 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Do you feel that perhaps draco synastry functions in a different way then tropical synastry. Like maybe it's on a different level of experience?

Yes. it`s the nodal chart and therefore all Draco aspects have to be interpretet against the backdrop of what the nodes mean.
It often seems to give a "Why" to the "What" of the tropical.

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posted October 23, 2012 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Do you compare only draco to draco or do you also compare draco to tropical as well? Personally, I find tropical to tropical the most telling but it's always interesting to take note of other people's experiences.

Do you feel that perhaps draco synastry functions in a different way then tropical synastry. Like maybe it's on a different level of experience? I'm interested as to what your insights are.


Im actually still trying to understand it, so far im only comparing draco/draco...tropical/tropical...but there is just some energy i get off draco that is picking up so much more of the intensity of the relationships! Where tropical gave me more of a happy, compatible energy that left me shocked when it would end in lies and so much pain! I still don't see the issues in tropical, but draco is nailing some of the major issues that produced in my relationships! If i would have looked at draco, i might have been more cautious!! But, being libra venus, and always optimistic in love....probably not!! LOL

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posted October 23, 2012 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes. it`s the nodal chart and therefore all Draco aspects have to be interpretet against the backdrop of what the nodes mean.
It often seems to give a "Why" to the "What" of the tropical.


Well, that makes absolutely perfect sense then, because im picking up all the intensity and pain...the deception...where tropical shows how me and the guy got along, and yes i always got along and had fun with these guys, im totally attracted to someone i can just laugh with....and thats what tropical showed me, but draco is showing me where they took me down, how i was getting hurt and deceived by their energy...its kind of shocking and i will never "not" look at draco again!!


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posted October 23, 2012 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both. Natal to Natal, draco to draco and then Draco to natal. Draco to natal looking at angles from both the Draco chart and Natal

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posted October 23, 2012 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just one example, in tropical my ex's pisces juno is conjunct his pisces lie...but it doesnt aspect me at all.
In draco this same juno/lie is sitting on my sun/mercury conjunction in my 2nd house, my emotional security! We had a long distance relationship, and everything he told me from the moment we met was the lies he had to tell me in order to be with me....he made up a story about the work he did just to be able to explain why he couldnt talk much on weekends, reality was he lived with a girl and only was home on weekends!
Once this all came out it was brutal, that makes perfect sense because in draco sun/merc/his juno/lie was all in Aries!

This conjunction opposes his 8th house pluto, and it nearly destroyed his life when it all came out! His best friend came to me and told me the truth, these guys where producing a well known show together on discovery channel. When his friend started hitting on me and i didnt want to get in the middle of anymore drama, he got mad at me! The guy i was seeing was so sorry, but I still didnt forgive him, but i didnt hate him either! That made his friend really angry!. They started fighting, the "friend" started treating me like crap, my ex told him he would kill if he kept it up, they turned on each other so hard and couldnt even be near each other, the show only lasted another season before it ended because they couldnt work together anymore!
He has since went on to other shows, but he also ended his relationship with his long time girlfriend and it was her father that helped build his production co.....he had to start over completely!

None of this is seen in tropical! But, these Aries/ Libra pluto and planets/asteroids are squaring his tropical Capricorn Ac, by 1 degree and squaring my tropical Cappy Ic and my cappy eros/valentine on my cappy Ic!!!
In Tropical these planets/asteroids would fall in between my tropical aries chiron/aries jupiter in 7th house and his tropical aries chiron which in tropical is his 3rd house...dealing with writing/production, thats what he does, writes commercials/shows and produces them!

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posted October 23, 2012 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never done this but will try....thanks for the info!

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posted October 23, 2012 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesKat:
I've never done this but will try....thanks for the info!

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posted October 23, 2012 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Im actually still trying to understand it, so far im only comparing draco/draco...tropical/tropical...but there is just some energy i get off draco that is picking up so much more of the intensity of the relationships! Where tropical gave me more of a happy, compatible energy that left me shocked when it would end in lies and so much pain! I still don't see the issues in tropical, but draco is nailing some of the major issues that produced in my relationships! If i would have looked at draco, i might have been more cautious!! But, being libra venus, and always optimistic in love....probably not!! LOL


Yes. And you should definitely look at tight conjunctions from Draco to tropical. Eyeopener.

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posted October 23, 2012 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Yes. And you should definitely look at tight conjunctions from Draco to tropical. Eyeopener.


I will from now on!!

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posted October 23, 2012 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a few questions...on astro.com can you get a list of placements with the trop and drac charts? like how will i know which aspects are being made? Also if the drac chart is has a lot of good placements what does that mean? does it outweigh the other charts or is it just different not necessarily better?

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posted October 23, 2012 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also what asteroids should i be looking at?

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posted October 24, 2012 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesKat:
I have a few questions...on astro.com can you get a list of placements with the trop and drac charts? like how will i know which aspects are being made? Also if the drac chart is has a lot of good placements what does that mean? does it outweigh the other charts or is it just different not necessarily better?

Astro.com "Free charts"-
under "Options" in the "Extended Chart" Section

1st part-Birth data(your name/birthday/etc)
2nd part-Methods-chart type(natal chart/synastry/etc)
3rd part-Options(dates/house system/zodiac)
under Zodiac, you see"western geocentric (tropical)"
pull down arrow gives more options, very last option says, "WARNING: draconic"
click on that one and it will show your Draco chart!
As far as asteroids, whatever your intersted in, if its synastry then run the asteroids for partnerships...i copied these from another thread Tigerlily had!
Compare draco to draco, then compare draco to tropical and do the same with your partner's draco to your draco and your tropical...

Juno - Marriage, commited and bonded relationships, legal ties and protection of rights within the relationship. Marriage and
commitment in relationships. Check synastry for connections. Transits and progressions can signify timing of marriage. Working through relationship betrayals, infidelity. Sharing power within relationships in a balanced manner.

Vesta - Devotion and dedication to beliefs, tantric sex and passion for ritual; sex as a spiritual transformation. Becoming whole within ones self. Not needing outside validation to be who you really are. Finding sacredness within and without.

Ceres - Mother, nurturing, feeding emotional and physical needs. Taking care of each other. Enhances the ability to nurture the self and others - also for those suffering from the loss of a loved one. Children who have lost a parent or other primary care giver.

103 Hera - Marriage, commited and bonded relationships, legal ties and protection of rights within the relationship. Marriage and
commitment in relationships. Check synastry for connections. Transits and progressions can signify timing of marriage.

447 Valentine - True love

1221 Amor - Love as felt idealistically and romantically. Unconditional love, how you express it.

763 Cupido - the look of love; Indicator of sexual attraction in synastry. Matchmaker, vain, romantic.

201 Penelope - represents devotion and fidelity

16 Psyche - Perseverance of love, connection of a psychic nature, awakening of intuition, soul seeking completion

433 Eros - erotic love. Represents what turns you on, sexual attraction.

1388 Aphrodite - impulsive love and attraction, love inspired by fated events, animosity turning to magnetism, charisma. Indicates attraction in synastry.

1943 Anteros - the brother of Eros, love returned or love avenged. The answer to love's longing, a place to finally meet.

2101 Adonis - spell bound love, sexual magnetism, the desire to arouse, please and fulfill the beloved. Potent tie. An attractive male. Your ideal
male. What is your Adonis by sign and house?

4450 Pan - Seductive and earthy sensuality, creative, wily, and likely to instill "panic" to produce change or contact

4386 Lust - potent sexual attraction and connection. Sexually motivated, lustful. Lascivious personality or behavior. Non-committed sex

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posted October 25, 2012 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I first looked at the Dr synastry with me and fishy.. Its not very telling.. Its really mostly sexual attraction aspects...
If we did have a past life together must of been mostly all about sex.. Both our stelliums are nearly un-aspected.
I just checked the DR asteriods, and am surprised to find so many different conjunctions.. Humm interesting... Sex is a huge issue between us... (we also have Pluto in H5 in tropical..) We have been arguing about it... Its where the power struggle is..

In just DR synastry
me/him

amor conjunct asc/union
aphro conjunct eros
mars conjunct amor
dsc conjunct chiron
cupid conjunct karma
union,eros conjunct cupid

From his DR to my natal
him/me
vertex,eros,venus on my SN
ceres/ dsc
merc/vertex
amor/karma
just writing the conjunctions.

My Dr to his natal
me/him
anter/valent opps sun
amor/merc
jupiter/sun
mc/mars

Thats all I checked right now.. Its late.

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posted October 25, 2012 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
When I first looked at the Dr synastry with me and fishy.. Its not very telling.. Its really mostly sexual attraction aspects...
If we did have a past life together must of been mostly all about sex.. Both our stelliums are nearly un-aspected.
I just checked the DR asteriods, and am surprised to find so many different conjunctions.. Humm interesting... Sex is a huge issue between us... (we also have Pluto in H5 in tropical..) We have been arguing about it... Its where the power struggle is..

In just DR synastry
me/him

amor conjunct asc/union
aphro conjunct eros
mars conjunct amor
dsc conjunct chiron
cupid conjunct karma
union,eros conjunct cupid

From his DR to my natal
him/me
vertex,eros,venus on my SN
ceres/ dsc
merc/vertex
amor/karma
just writing the conjunctions.

My Dr to his natal
me/him
anter/valent opps sun
amor/merc
jupiter/sun
mc/mars

Thats all I checked right now.. Its late.


Thats a lot of good stuff going on there!! Happy for you!!
For me, timing is always off! Oh, well!

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posted October 25, 2012 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or its Daphne's fault!!
Shes on my venus!!
Daphne libra@17.49
Venus libra@19.03 in 1st house...ugh!


Daphne -
In Greek mythology, Daphne was a nymph who was turned into a laurel tree while attempting to escape the advances of the god Apollo. Daphne was the beautiful daughter of a river god. She refused all lovers. According to some legends, it was the love god Eros (Cupid) who caused Apollo to fall in love with Daphne but mischievously caused her to be filled with loathing for Apollo. Apollo pursued Daphne and she fled. Just as he was about to grasp her, she called to her father (or to the Earth, Gaea) for help. Daphne was transformed into a laurel tree as Apollo looked on. Thereafter, he proclaimed, the tree would be sacred to him. Wreaths and garlands associated with the god were woven of laurel.


Eros is mean!! lol

Eros who, irritated by a cutting remark made by Apollo, struck him with the golden arrow that stirred the fires of passion at the very moment that he transfixed Daphne with the blunt dart that inspired revulsion. Thus, Apollo fell desperately in love with the nymph, but she would have nothing to do with him: she consecrated herself to Artemis and sought refuge in the depths of the woods, where she found happiness only while hunting wild animals. Apollo, more and more ardent, began to follow her, trying to make her yield with flattery and promises until, his patience exhausted, he chased her without respite, like a dog hunting its prey. The pursuer was on the point of seizing her when Daphne called upon Gaea, the goddess of the Earth, to save her. At once the members of her body grew heavy, her hair grew into leafy fronds, and her feet turned into roots: nothing was left of her beauty but its sheen and Apollo found himself embracing a plant scented with laurel.

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posted October 25, 2012 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrofan123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found draco more accurate
and for comparison I compare draco with draco
although if I compare my draco with my own natal chart, it's kind of scary like my atropos (draco) is right where my Pluto (natal) is but I know that it's 2 different zodiacs maybe there is no connection to each other

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posted October 25, 2012 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesKat:
is it just different not necessarily better?

this.

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posted October 25, 2012 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrofan123:
it's 2 different zodiacs maybe there is no connection to each other

Yes there is. the point in both zodiacs acts as a portal/ a meeting point. At this degree the nodal point (Atropos in your case) meets the physical plane (tropical) and gets manifested through Pluto.


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posted October 27, 2012 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrofan123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by astrofan123:
[b] it's 2 different zodiacs maybe there is no connection to each other


Yes there is. the point in both zodiacs acts as a portal/ a meeting point. At this degree the nodal point (Atropos in your case) meets the physical plane (tropical) and gets manifested through Pluto.

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thanks for this. it makes sense now. been pondering about this asteroid for some time and how draco and tropical connect

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