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Topic: Astrology or rapists
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 588 From: us Registered: Sep 2018
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posted August 22, 2015 07:07 PM
Do you think besides the square the conjunction would manifest as someone capable of rape or abuse as well?His chart: Mars 18 Leo Saturn 16 Leo Pluto 12 Leo Venus 12 Taurus NN 16 Taurus IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 588 From: us Registered: Sep 2018
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posted August 22, 2015 07:17 PM
Ted Bundy has the same stuff going on in fixed signs!Saturn 8 Leo Pluto 13 Leo Venus 20 Scorpio rx Jupiter 13 Scorpio Mercury 24 Scorpio rx
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 22, 2015 07:23 PM
I knew a guy in high school who made remarks about doing it. He had moon, mercury, mars, and Pluto all conjunct. IP: Logged |
Spica Knowflake Posts: 1509 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 22, 2015 07:31 PM
A lot of men who commit such crimes have an afflicted Venus.Let's say, Venus aspect Pluto or Scorpio or Venus in Aries, or Venus making a harsh aspect by Mars. These men don't respect femininity and see femininity as something manipulative, impure, bad (Pluto). So they exploit it. That's why they are more likely to commit such crimes against women because of that. On the other hand, a man who has Venus aspect moon in a positive way and who has both moon or Venus healthy, they respect value femininity and are very charming to women because of their sympathetic nature. Saturn making an aspect with Mars, especially a bad one can indicate abuse and harshness, most probably because the native with this aspect themselves had an abusive childhood. The same way a person with negative Venus (with Pluto or in Scorpio/Aries) may have had a mother or female figures in general that they grew up watching them abusing their own femininity, they could have had a mother who misused her femininity for selfish purposes like let's say for money or if she was a prostitute/etc. So in the child's brain a belief about femininity is ingrained according to their observations/feelings in childhood regarding femininity (Venus). IP: Logged |
wheresthemoon Knowflake Posts: 844 From: Texas Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 22, 2015 08:48 PM
Interesting topic. Obviously, astrology doesn't solely determine this. Two people can have the exact same chart and one will be abusive and the other won't...at least that's what I think. But I do think there are some things astrologically that would lend to such behavior. I'll be candid. I've been sexually abused two different times. Once as a child, and all throughout my marriage to my ex-husband. In these cases, I think it was a combination of their natal chart and something in synastry. With the man who abused me as a child, there is not very much in his natal chart that stands out to me, although since I don't have his time of birth, I can't be sure. However, his Venus is conjunct his Child asteroid, which I think could lend to pedophilia. The synastry is a bit more telling, I think. His Aquarius moon falls in my eighth house, which I have found to be an unsettling placement, first of all. I feel that this is a placement for crossing boundaries, as every person I've known (which admittedly isn't many) who has put their moon in my eighth house has crossed my boundaries and made me uncomfortable. Perhaps more important than that, his Nessus (abuser asteroid) is conjunct my ascendant and Chiron from my twelfth house. My Pluto is sextile his Mars, and Mars/Pluto aspects lend to sexual abuse as well. My Pluto is conjunct his Venus. Venus/Pluto aspects can be volatile. His Pluto is square my ascendant. His Mars is conjunct my Neptune, which I believe can lend to sexual abuse. My ex had Venus square Mars. I feel that men (and just people) with this kind of hard aspect between Venus and Mars can be obsessed with sex. Mars is also square his ascendant. Mars is quincunx Uranus, which can lead to a headstrong attitude. This can also lead to sexual abuse when it is extreme enough to where the person won't take no for an answer. In synastry, his Nessus opposes my Dejanira (victim asteroid). My Sun is square his Saturn, which can lead to overwhelming control. His Pluto is opposite my Venus. My Mars is sesquiquadrate (I've heard this aspect is like a square in that it causes unrelenting action) his Pluto. Again though, I could meet someone with the exact same chart and they wouldn't do that to me. We all have free will.
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posted August 22, 2015 09:04 PM
This thread is very interesting. Doesn't Oprah Winfrey, Bruce Lee, Mahatma Ghandi, and Brad Pitt have this aspect, too? IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 588 From: us Registered: Sep 2018
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posted August 22, 2015 09:09 PM
Ghandi had a problem with lust. He admitted it himself.IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3182 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 22, 2015 09:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by cchampliss2: This thread is very interesting. Doesn't Oprah Winfrey, Bruce Lee, Mahatma Ghandi, and Brad Pitt have this aspect, too?
Oprah was abused. Bruce Lee has domicile Mars and Venus-moon conjunct. Brad Pitt has exalted Mars and moon-venusconjunct.I find that moon and Venus in the same signs lend an render stand of femininity as nurturing. Moon harsh aspect with Mars give somewhat not good feelings about the mother. But in general astrology is not fatalistic
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CosmiqPhuz Knowflake Posts: 752 From: INFP Registered: Jan 2014
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posted August 23, 2015 09:42 PM
I've got mercury and venus conjunct pluto, and I can't even think about raping someone. My libra mars can't stay sexually engaged if the other person is not into it. Rape is pretty much impossible for me.IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 588 From: us Registered: Sep 2018
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posted August 23, 2015 09:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz: I've got mercury and venus conjunct pluto, and I can't even think about raping someone. My libra mars can't stay sexually engaged if the other person is not into it. Rape is pretty much impossible for me.
What sign is the conjunction in? IP: Logged |
CosmiqPhuz Knowflake Posts: 752 From: INFP Registered: Jan 2014
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posted August 23, 2015 10:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: What sign is the conjunction in?
Scorpio
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 2044 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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