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athenegoddess
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posted August 22, 2015 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think besides the square the conjunction would manifest as someone capable of rape or abuse as well?

His chart:

Mars 18 Leo
Saturn 16 Leo
Pluto 12 Leo

Venus 12 Taurus
NN 16 Taurus

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athenegoddess
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posted August 22, 2015 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ted Bundy has the same stuff going on in fixed signs!

Saturn 8 Leo
Pluto 13 Leo


Venus 20 Scorpio rx
Jupiter 13 Scorpio
Mercury 24 Scorpio rx

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posted August 22, 2015 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew a guy in high school who made remarks about doing it. He had moon, mercury, mars, and Pluto all conjunct.

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posted August 22, 2015 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of men who commit such crimes have an afflicted Venus.

Let's say, Venus aspect Pluto or Scorpio or Venus in Aries, or Venus making a harsh aspect by Mars. These men don't respect femininity and see femininity as something manipulative, impure, bad (Pluto). So they exploit it. That's why they are more likely to commit such crimes against women because of that.

On the other hand, a man who has Venus aspect moon in a positive way and who has both moon or Venus healthy, they respect value femininity and are very charming to women because of their sympathetic nature.

Saturn making an aspect with Mars, especially a bad one can indicate abuse and harshness, most probably because the native with this aspect themselves had an abusive childhood. The same way a person with negative Venus (with Pluto or in Scorpio/Aries) may have had a mother or female figures in general that they grew up watching them abusing their own femininity, they could have had a mother who misused her femininity for selfish purposes like let's say for money or if she was a prostitute/etc. So in the child's brain a belief about femininity is ingrained according to their observations/feelings in childhood regarding femininity (Venus).

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posted August 22, 2015 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting topic. Obviously, astrology doesn't solely determine this. Two people can have the exact same chart and one will be abusive and the other won't...at least that's what I think. But I do think there are some things astrologically that would lend to such behavior.

I'll be candid. I've been sexually abused two different times. Once as a child, and all throughout my marriage to my ex-husband. In these cases, I think it was a combination of their natal chart and something in synastry.

With the man who abused me as a child, there is not very much in his natal chart that stands out to me, although since I don't have his time of birth, I can't be sure. However, his Venus is conjunct his Child asteroid, which I think could lend to pedophilia.

The synastry is a bit more telling, I think. His Aquarius moon falls in my eighth house, which I have found to be an unsettling placement, first of all. I feel that this is a placement for crossing boundaries, as every person I've known (which admittedly isn't many) who has put their moon in my eighth house has crossed my boundaries and made me uncomfortable.

Perhaps more important than that, his Nessus (abuser asteroid) is conjunct my ascendant and Chiron from my twelfth house.
My Pluto is sextile his Mars, and Mars/Pluto aspects lend to sexual abuse as well.
My Pluto is conjunct his Venus. Venus/Pluto aspects can be volatile.
His Pluto is square my ascendant.
His Mars is conjunct my Neptune, which I believe can lend to sexual abuse.

My ex had Venus square Mars. I feel that men (and just people) with this kind of hard aspect between Venus and Mars can be obsessed with sex.
Mars is also square his ascendant.
Mars is quincunx Uranus, which can lead to a headstrong attitude. This can also lead to sexual abuse when it is extreme enough to where the person won't take no for an answer.

In synastry, his Nessus opposes my Dejanira (victim asteroid).
My Sun is square his Saturn, which can lead to overwhelming control.
His Pluto is opposite my Venus.
My Mars is sesquiquadrate (I've heard this aspect is like a square in that it causes unrelenting action) his Pluto.

Again though, I could meet someone with the exact same chart and they wouldn't do that to me. We all have free will.

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posted August 22, 2015 09:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread is very interesting. Doesn't Oprah Winfrey, Bruce Lee, Mahatma Ghandi, and Brad Pitt have this aspect, too?

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posted August 22, 2015 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ghandi had a problem with lust. He admitted it himself.

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posted August 22, 2015 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
This thread is very interesting. Doesn't Oprah Winfrey, Bruce Lee, Mahatma Ghandi, and Brad Pitt have this aspect, too?



Oprah was abused. Bruce Lee has domicile Mars and Venus-moon conjunct. Brad Pitt has exalted Mars and moon-venusconjunct.

I find that moon and Venus in the same signs lend an render stand of femininity as nurturing.
Moon harsh aspect with Mars give somewhat not good feelings about the mother.

But in general astrology is not fatalistic

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posted August 23, 2015 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got mercury and venus conjunct pluto, and I can't even think about raping someone. My libra mars can't stay sexually engaged if the other person is not into it. Rape is pretty much impossible for me.

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posted August 23, 2015 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I've got mercury and venus conjunct pluto, and I can't even think about raping someone. My libra mars can't stay sexually engaged if the other person is not into it. Rape is pretty much impossible for me.

What sign is the conjunction in?

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posted August 23, 2015 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
What sign is the conjunction in?

Scorpio

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posted October 10, 2021 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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