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Rosalind
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posted November 05, 2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would need a second opinion about this. In my opinion isnt very good. Saturn is bad either by house overlay or by aspects. What do you think? Thank you.
My Saturn is over his 12th house.

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posted November 05, 2012 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What aspects are being made with Saturn in synastry? And composite?

To me Saturn isn't necessarily a bad planet at all. It gives two people the maturity or pushes it onto them for karmic reasons. So you might have 7H Saturn overlay in synastry for example, with Saturn opposite the other's natal Venus.

Depending on multiple factors, the Saturn person could feel annoyed at how unstructured the Venus person was and really put their all into restructuring them on how to act in a relationship; the Venus person could moan and groan and avoid living up to commitment responsibilities and think in the tough moments that Saturn is ANNOYing. But in the end, Saturn is going to learn to stop trying to be controlling of others in love, and that it's sometimes best to let the universe work things out; and Venus is going to look back even nostalgically in retrospect if they separate on how much Saturn actually changed them for the better and made them see love in a more mature light, even if at times they seemed too pushy or stern about committing. So as we can see here, this is not necessarily bad - just a challenge. But aren't all relationships incomplete without them? Many couples have to face these hurdles and even if in the end they can't, more often than not they will both be positively changed so in their next romance they might even be better lovers than they were before, carrying the past experiences and growth over. [E.g., Saturn would be less controlling, Venus would be less flakey].

So in your case, you have your Saturn in his 12th. This could be a bit tricky since this is the commitment, get down to brass tacks planet. Maybe you could feel that attempting to structure or anchor him to something or getting him to commit solidly could be a bit more unclear to you than it is to most people. Maybe the idea of some sort of responsibility between you two is foggy. Maybe subconsciously you feel you can't exert your Saturnine qualities around them and for some reason you are made guilty when you express them around him - like talking about committing, formal plans etc. - and try to force yourself to be more unstructured and carefree without great results sometimes. I'm just playing around with ideas. But I do think solidly that a 12H planet in synastry overlay will, unless there's some other connection to bring it out, be overlooked or disowned by the house person. Not necessarily for bad reasons. But maybe for vague, Piscean ones.

As for H1 composite Saturn - perhaps to other people you come off as a more stately, personable but mature couple. One of you could potentially come off as Saturnine and mature in age, appearance or intellect. Maybe to other people, the relationship appears to be serious at a first glance. It isn't a frivolous fling or a casual thing. Since composite chart usually deals with the relationship itself and the first meeting, you two base your mutual identity and the union itself on the outside in terms of shared or met responsibilities... maybe a meeting at work thing?

What do you think?

Please don't give up hope. It isn't always bad to have Saturn in the mix! It gives the relationship its glue.

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Rosalind
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posted November 05, 2012 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you are right but I also realise that the problem lies in me since I am Saturn. My attitude towards him needs to change. He needs to see me as his partner not as a parent. I also think that Saturn over his 12th house would make him feel a bit uncomfortable if not a lot because my beloved Saturn square all his personal planets except Mars which is in conjunction.
In composite we have Venus opposite Saturn. I know Saturn glues the relationship but also I don't want our relationship to feel heavy as a burden. Lets say Saturn in Composite is mixed good and bad, but Saturn over his 12th house is worrying me a lot.

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posted November 05, 2012 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't worry to much about the Saturn in the 12th. Personal planets in the 12th are more significant. Also, Saturn is in its joy in the 12th. You can help him face fears he has.

The Acura in the 1st in composite is more troubling. It can often show a relationship that fails to get off the ground. The Venus opp Saturn can reinforce that.

Is there an age difference or difference in financial or social status?

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posted November 06, 2012 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lily:
I wouldn't worry to much about the Saturn in the 12th. Personal planets in the 12th are more significant. Also, Saturn is in its joy in the 12th. You can help him face fears he has.

The Acura in the 1st in composite is more troubling. It can often show a relationship that fails to get off the ground. The Venus opp Saturn can reinforce that.

Is there an age difference or difference in financial or social status?


What is Acura? Are you telling me in Vedic Interpretation? Doesnt click to me that system. But yes. There's a 6 months age difference and social and financial status.

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