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Emsie
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posted November 07, 2012 07:27 PM
  
My Venus is in my 12th house in Scorpio. I have a question - am I destined to be alone?!I struggle really hard with love and relationships, although I'm still young and got time on my side, but I just seem to always fall for the wrong people...  What do you think about this? IP: Logged |
Libreo
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posted November 07, 2012 08:31 PM
I'm no expert all I can say is I do know of a man (a Scorpio) who is 40 and despite being attractive and a really good guy, has always been alone and I believe he always will be. He has Venus in the 12 house in Sagittarius, which in itself is a bit of a loner sign. His moon is in independant Aquarius too.IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted November 07, 2012 08:42 PM
I'm wondering something relevant to this:If the planet that disposits Venus falls in the 12th, can your Venus suffer some adverse affects even if it has a benefit aspect? Also, I have to point out that just because you have 12H Venus you won't end up alone. Love just may be a very sensitive subject for you... I think what it could represent is relationships that are out of control or too intense but achieving spiritual and karmic balance that the 12th house can yield is essential. You won't always fall for the wrong person. In fact I know people with other Venus placements who have had disaster love lives. Love to you might just carry more heavy and karmic qualities, more depth and bonding at best. I wouldn't say it's a bad placement at all... just a bit trying. IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted November 07, 2012 08:46 PM
My husband has Venus conj mars in Aries in the 12th and is not alone.He is, however, much more reticent initially than others with Venus and Mars in such a fiery conjunction. If you show the same tendencies, perhaps that is the root of your frustration. ------------------
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Emsie
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posted November 08, 2012 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by Libreo:
I'm no expert all I can say is I do know of a man (a Scorpio) who is 40 and despite being attractive and a really good guy, has always been alone and I believe he always will be. He has Venus in the 12 house in Sagittarius, which in itself is a bit of a loner sign. His moon is in independant Aquarius too.
My Moon is in Aqua, too! IP: Logged |
Emsie
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posted November 08, 2012 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I'm wondering something relevant to this:If the planet that disposits Venus falls in the 12th, can your Venus suffer some adverse affects even if it has a benefit aspect? Also, I have to point out that just because you have 12H Venus you won't end up alone. Love just may be a very sensitive subject for you... I think what it could represent is relationships that are out of control or too intense but achieving spiritual and karmic balance that the 12th house can yield is essential. You won't always fall for the wrong person. In fact I know people with other Venus placements who have had disaster love lives. Love to you might just carry more heavy and karmic qualities, more depth and bonding at best. I wouldn't say it's a bad placement at all... just a bit trying.
I also hope I won't end up alone!  Indeed, it's a sensitive topic for me, and I'm quite capable of being secretive, even if it's only my feelings for someone - I'll keep them to myself!
And really looking for qualities like depth, but yeah, it's not a cakewalk to find them... IP: Logged |
Mandy pie
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posted November 08, 2012 04:44 AM
Venus in the 12th house in Vedic astrology for a guy often means he has a lot of clandestine lovers. I've known a few married men with this placement and they all cheated on their wives for years and bragged about it in the office. The guys that didn't cheat and the women would feel really awkward, especially when their wives came to visit. Funny story- One of them actually met his wife and started dating her when SHE was married to someone else! So that was a clandestine affair kept secret from the world for almost 10 years! But then She divorced her husband and they got married and not long after their marriage he soon lost interest in his public wife and began a secret affair with someone else. They are now separated. Venus in the 12th often feels compelled to find love in hidden or clandestine situations. However, there's one good thing about Venus in the 12th... the native often makes good money in his life depending on what his ascendant is. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted November 08, 2012 07:40 AM
I agree. When it comes to men I also believe Venus in 12th are womanizers, but it depends on aspects as well. My son has this and it's what I have read often 
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Emsie
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posted November 08, 2012 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by Mandy pie:
Venus in the 12th house in Vedic astrology for a guy often means he has a lot of clandestine lovers. I've known a few married men with this placement and they all cheated on their wives for years and bragged about it in the office. The guys that didn't cheat and the women would feel really awkward, especially when their wives came to visit. Funny story- One of them actually met his wife and started dating her when SHE was married to someone else! So that was a clandestine affair kept secret from the world for almost 10 years! But then She divorced her husband and they got married and not long after their marriage he soon lost interest in his public wife and began a secret affair with someone else. They are now separated. Venus in the 12th often feels compelled to find love in hidden or clandestine situations. However, there's one good thing about Venus in the 12th... the native often makes good money in his life depending on what his ascendant is.
To be honest, now I understand why I have my eyes on one of my teachers... I know it's a not so appropriate thing, but I just can't help it! Once I was in love with my English teacher as well... Well, well...  IP: Logged |
astrofan123
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posted November 08, 2012 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by Mandy pie:
Venus in the 12th house in Vedic astrology for a guy often means he has a lot of clandestine lovers. I've known a few married men with this placement and they all cheated on their wives for years and bragged about it in the office. The guys that didn't cheat and the women would feel really awkward, especially when their wives came to visit. Funny story- One of them actually met his wife and started dating her when SHE was married to someone else! So that was a clandestine affair kept secret from the world for almost 10 years! But then She divorced her husband and they got married and not long after their marriage he soon lost interest in his public wife and began a secret affair with someone else. They are now separated. Venus in the 12th often feels compelled to find love in hidden or clandestine situations. However, there's one good thing about Venus in the 12th... the native often makes good money in his life depending on what his ascendant is.
the money part I've seen this to be true when the ascendant and venus are both earth sign, maybe also true if both are at least the same sign.
also seen the clandestine affairs happening. they don't love the people they have affairs with, they love the secrecy. when secrecy is gone, they lose interest. sometimes this is also how they earn money.
there must be something else in the chart but this is just one that I can remember as for now.
as for the original post, I personally don't believe anyone is destined to be alone. of course then if you choose to be alone, you will be. IP: Logged |
Emsie
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posted November 08, 2012 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
My husband has Venus conj mars in Aries in the 12th and is not alone.He is, however, much more reticent initially than others with Venus and Mars in such a fiery conjunction. If you show the same tendencies, perhaps that is the root of your frustration.
I have Venus in Scorp (12th H) - - semi-sextile Mars in Sag (2nd H)
- square Saturn in Aqua (3rd H)
- sextile Uranus in Cap (3rd H)
- square Chiron in Leo (9th H)
- conjunct ASC in Scorp What do you think about this? IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted November 08, 2012 12:45 PM
a 12th-house Venus does not mean you will be alone, you may just have a difficulty with Venusian themes, especially considering Venus is detrimented in Scorpio. Scorpio is naturally at odds with Venus/Venusian themes and is not an easy place for Venus (I have this placement, too, but in the 8th house).Considering you have mostly outer planet contacts to your Venus, on top of being in the 12th house, Venusian themes will be karmic in your life and unstable. You may find it hard to open up and show love, because Scorpio/12th house is naturally secretive, and you have a detrimented Saturn in Leo squaring it. The sextile to Uranus shows you are tolerant and probably very easy to get along with, and are accepting of freedom and unconventional reltionships. Now, given that your Venus is conjunct the Asc, this can help your detrimented Venus considerably. To other people you probably come off as rather beautiful, personable, and Venusian. You probably have little problems meeting people and getting them to like you. Venusian themes are what you project to the outside world, but the truth is you really struggle with them. This alone doesn't mean you're bound to be alone, though. You may have trouble finding someone who is right for you and suffer considerably in relationships. Scorpio is the sign of transformation, and rebirth, so chances are if you integrate the positives of a Scorpio Venus you can eventually find yourself in a deep, powerful, emotionally fulfilling relationship. I have a friend with Scorpio Venus and Aqua moon which squares her Venus. She's been happy with her boyfriend for almost like eight years. Although relationships probably don't come easy for her, she's really made it work. IP: Logged |
Dreaming111
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posted November 08, 2012 02:06 PM
Whould this logic also apply to venus being in someone else;s 12th house? IP: Logged |
Evolved1
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posted November 08, 2012 04:19 PM
"Now, given that your Venus is conjunct the Asc, this can help your detrimented Venus considerably. To other people you probably come off as rather beautiful, personable, and Venusian. You probably have little problems meeting people and getting them to like you. Venusian themes are what you project to the outside world, but the truth is you really struggle with them."
I have Venus in the 12th conjunct Asc in Aqua..And yes the descrpition above re: Venus Conj Asc rings very,very truthful..
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Emsie
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posted November 08, 2012 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by inthemisosoup:
a 12th-house Venus does not mean you will be alone, you may just have a difficulty with Venusian themes, especially considering Venus is detrimented in Scorpio. Scorpio is naturally at odds with Venus/Venusian themes and is not an easy place for Venus (I have this placement, too, but in the 8th house).Considering you have mostly outer planet contacts to your Venus, on top of being in the 12th house, Venusian themes will be karmic in your life and unstable. You may find it hard to open up and show love, because Scorpio/12th house is naturally secretive, and you have a detrimented Saturn in Leo squaring it. The sextile to Uranus shows you are tolerant and probably very easy to get along with, and are accepting of freedom and unconventional reltionships. Now, given that your Venus is conjunct the Asc, this can help your detrimented Venus considerably. To other people you probably come off as rather beautiful, personable, and Venusian. You probably have little problems meeting people and getting them to like you. Venusian themes are what you project to the outside world, but the truth is you really struggle with them. This alone doesn't mean you're bound to be alone, though. You may have trouble finding someone who is right for you and suffer considerably in relationships. Scorpio is the sign of transformation, and rebirth, so chances are if you integrate the positives of a Scorpio Venus you can eventually find yourself in a deep, powerful, emotionally fulfilling relationship. I have a friend with Scorpio Venus and Aqua moon which squares her Venus. She's been happy with her boyfriend for almost like eight years. Although relationships probably don't come easy for her, she's really made it work.
You just described me... completely! I'm so uncomfortable when I have to reveal my feelings for someone, I'd rather want them to sniff it, but I know that's not a good strategy, because I think that not everyone has developed intuition, not even men...
When my ex was my crush, my friend told me to make a move... So I talked to him more and danced with him, but as it turned out, it wasn't enough! I thought I made "that" move, but in real life it was still a "little something"... I really had to make a sacrifice, it was one of my scariest moments when I told him I liked him!!! Totally overwhelmed me! IP: Logged |
JLyn ~
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posted November 08, 2012 06:14 PM
That venus doesn't settle for fly by romantices.
It's gotta be deep, it's gotta have a spiritual bond flavor to it and theres always a sacrifice appeal to all their relationships but not necessarily in a torture way, but in a tattooed compassionate glow around the heart, way.
Embrace it.(Venus in 12th)
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blue giraffe
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posted November 08, 2012 07:02 PM
Well, I have Venus in 12th (and Sun and Mercury too) and I've been alone all my life, I'm 25 and I've had no contact with the opposite sex. I just dream about it but am not interested in actually doing something about it because I'm ugly. I absolutely loathe ugliness. Maybe because I have South Node in Libra I'm now not supposed to be in relationships or be attractive. It sucks, beauty is the most important thing in the world to me. I don't want to be a ******* nurse either, or love all sorts of losers as they always say about Venus in 12th. If I was beautiful I'd have no problem being independent 'cause I could have so much fun just dressing up and being and enjoying my looks (I'm Sun, Venus, Mars and Asc Leo) but I'm not interested in my stupid, ugly mediocre life as this boring ugly invisible mouse. I haven't had friends either in over 12 years.IP: Logged |
Evolved1
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posted November 08, 2012 07:10 PM
"It's gotta be deep, it's gotta have a spiritual bond flavor to it and theres always a sacrifice appeal to all their relationships but not necessarily in a torture way, but in a tattooed compassionate glow around the heart, way.
Embrace it."Exactly!!! This is what I have now in my life and it sticks no way can I leave.. IP: Logged |
Evolved1
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posted November 08, 2012 07:13 PM
@Blue Giraffe: Please do not think of yourself that way. We all come with some sort of beauty. It may not be like the next woman or as much as we think we should have but we always have something beautiful about us. I am sure that there is something that you like about yourself. If not find it and nuture it. God does not make junk sweetie. Love yourself girl and onc you do that others will see the beauty in you and you will find that others love you too. I know you said you don't care but deep inside you do. I promise you if you take the time out to love yourself work on yourself you won't regret it..IP: Logged |
blue giraffe
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posted November 08, 2012 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Evolved1:
@Blue Giraffe: Please do not think of yourself that way. We all come with some sort of beauty. It may not be like the next woman or as much as we think we should have but we always have something beautiful about us. I am sure that there is something that you like about yourself. If not find it and nuture it. God does not make junk sweetie. Love yourself girl and onc you do that others will see the beauty in you and you will find that others love you too. I know you said you don't care but deep inside you do. I promise you if you take the time out to love yourself work on yourself you won't regret it..
I don't want to be loved "warts and all", I want to be loved because I'm gorgeous. I want to be really hot and **** hot gyus. I don't want to be pretty on the inside or some **** like that. What the **** does that even mean, like don't just say cliches about how everyone's beautiful in their own way, show me proof why all sorts of dorky and ugly people are beautiful or that people have "beautiful souls" or something. It's a fact some are better looking and have cooler personalities and better lives. I'll never feel gorgeous as I am, in my dreams I'm so much better looking and more talented. IP: Logged |
Evolved1
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posted November 08, 2012 07:50 PM
We are all delt a certain hand, rather its a hand that we think is good or not we have to play it to the best of our ability. Do you think that good looking ppl have it all that easy. In some cases yes, but let me tell you just becuase you are beautiful does not mean you won't have relationship problems or any other problems. I feel no infact I know that I am very beautiful inside and out and at the age of 44 I am still a knock out, but I have had my heart broken more times then I care to tell. I have been cheated on by men I loved. I have never been married either. If I let those things rule over me I would never have had any peace and they would have determined how I think about myself. My inside beauty is what really attracts ppl to me and thats what I prefer. When you feel good inside it will spill outside. You can think its cliches or not but its reality. My man loves me more because of my inside beauty and thats what counts my outside beauty is just and enhancement. Peace and love comes from the inside rather you believe that or nt..IP: Logged |
Libreo
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posted November 08, 2012 09:58 PM
Evolved1 long story but I needed to read those words more than ever today. Thankyou.IP: Logged |
Evolved1
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posted November 09, 2012 12:38 AM
@Libreo Huggs dear!!IP: Logged |
Emsie
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posted November 09, 2012 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
That venus doesn't settle for fly by romantices.
It's gotta be deep, it's gotta have a spiritual bond flavor to it and theres always a sacrifice appeal to all their relationships but not necessarily in a torture way, but in a tattooed compassionate glow around the heart, way.
Embrace it.(Venus in 12th)
This is what I am actually looking for! I'm always so turned off by anything less than spriritual and deep! No one-night stands!!!
This is why my ex is my ex... And I clearly felt he wasn't strong at all to handle me! I need someone who's strong and not cissy, but at the same time can and willing to go to the depths just like me.
This is really not for the faint-hearted... IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98
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posted July 24, 2020 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by blue giraffe:
Well, I have Venus in 12th (and Sun and Mercury too) and I've been alone all my life, I'm 25 and I've had no contact with the opposite sex. I just dream about it but am not interested in actually doing something about it because I'm ugly. I absolutely loathe ugliness. Maybe because I have South Node in Libra I'm now not supposed to be in relationships or be attractive. It sucks, beauty is the most important thing in the world to me. I don't want to be a ******* nurse either, or love all sorts of losers as they always say about Venus in 12th. If I was beautiful I'd have no problem being independent 'cause I could have so much fun just dressing up and being and enjoying my looks (I'm Sun, Venus, Mars and Asc Leo) but I'm not interested in my stupid, ugly mediocre life as this boring ugly invisible mouse. I haven't had friends either in over 12 years.
Aww, how have you been doing the past 8 years?! Are your Venus & Mars in tight conjunction with your Ascendant? IP: Logged |
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