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FieryAries9108
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posted November 12, 2012 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FieryAries9108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a friend that was adopted and she has no way of finding out her birth time, is there any way to find out besides a birth time rectification?

I'll give you a description of her so tell me what you think her ascendent is:

Short 5'0-5'3, blonde hair, large blue eyes somewhat intense and emotional (you can tell her emotions through her eyes), a button nose (very rounded) has a small mouth width wise, but her lips are very defined her upper lip is pointed and she has a big bottom lip, she has a small head squarish/ovular but it's not long/angular. You could say she looks young and very cute most of the time, when she smiles her eyes squint and the top of her cheeks are rounded when she smiles , everything is very well proportioned on her face.

She has somewhat broad shoulder but they are well proportioned to her neck and head, you could say she is very solid looking, her shoulders are rounded, she is solid body-wise and has thick/muscular thighs, she also has small feet and hands, but her fingers are very long/artistic looking/ and her palms are kinda squarish. She has very sturdy looking hands. Oh and her eyes are a little deep set not a lot but a little and I would also add that she has somewhat naturally muscular arms.

To me from all the descriptions I have read online she is either a Cancer/Taurus/Pisces/Scorpio/Leo rising but I don't really know.


here are some picturesque of her : www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/000880.html

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StacyLewis
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posted November 12, 2012 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Truthfully? There's no real way of telling an ascendant based on physical traits, because people don't always fit the stereotypical description of their ascendant.

Mine is supposedly linked to being tall, when I'm 4'11 and one quarter.

I think a lot of times people tend to resemble the most prominent planetary energies in their chart, moreso than their actual ascendant. Stevie Nicks has Neptune angular and most astrologers who play the guessing game usually assume she's a Pisces rising when she isn't, based on her appearance.

There's routes your friend could take to get her actual birth time - involves some paperwork or phone calls, or going to local government buildings...it's a pain, but at least that way she'd have an actual, valid time to go off of rather than trying to guess. It's worth it to try.

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its_aqua
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posted November 12, 2012 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer is the shame thing I thought from the description you gave us about her eyes, but I don't really believe in signs&physical traits. I knew a guy who was really good at finding a person's sign by their appearence,but guessing the ascendant seems more complicated. An astrologer could probably indicate her birth time? My father didn't know the exact day he was born but he went to an astrologer for a session,and he was able to determine the correct day through a series of events that showed important changes in his life. Maybe an astrologer could find her time birth through the same way??

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FieryAries9108
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posted November 12, 2012 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FieryAries9108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
Truthfully? There's no real way of telling an ascendant based on physical traits, because people don't always fit the stereotypical description of their ascendant.

Mine is supposedly linked to being tall, when I'm 4'11 and one quarter.

I think a lot of times people tend to resemble the most prominent planetary energies in their chart, moreso than their actual ascendant. Stevie Nicks has Neptune angular and most astrologers who play the guessing game usually assume she's a Pisces rising when she isn't, based on her appearance.

There's routes your friend could take to get her actual birth time - involves some paperwork or phone calls, or going to local government buildings...it's a pain, but at least that way she'd have an actual, valid time to go off of rather than trying to guess. It's worth it to try.


Yea, she wants to but she was born in Russia and they were kinda secretive about things during the time she was born, so I don't know if it is even possible to get that information.

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FieryAries9108
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posted November 12, 2012 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FieryAries9108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Cancer is the shame thing I thought from the description you gave us about her eyes, but I don't really believe in signs&physical traits. I knew a guy who was really good at finding a person's sign by their appearence,but guessing the ascendant seems more complicated. An astrologer could probably indicate her birth time? My father didn't know the exact day he was born but he went to an astrologer for a session,and he was able to determine the correct day through a series of events that showed important changes in his life. Maybe an astrologer could find her time birth through the same way??

Yes, she is taking into consideration a birth rectification.

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posted November 12, 2012 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She sounds like a taurus rising. Well her physique suggests it.

Does she have a water moon? Hence the eyes? Or her moon might trine her asc, or be in the 12th house, hence them being 'expressive.'

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posted November 12, 2012 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My intuition says pisces.

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posted November 12, 2012 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PIsces rising are usually not stocky though, they're usually small framed with thin limbs.

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posted November 12, 2012 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FieryAries9108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
She sounds like a taurus rising. Well her physique suggests it.

Does she have a water moon? Hence the eyes? Or her moon might trine her asc, or be in the 12th house, hence them being 'expressive.'


She has a fire moon and it might be trine it... idk?

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FieryAries9108
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posted November 12, 2012 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FieryAries9108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Insilver:
My intuition says pisces.

really why?

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posted November 12, 2012 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you put a pic up, if you can. I think the pictures are supposed to go in the Beginners Forum.
I will look

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posted November 12, 2012 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries, sag or Leo moon? If she has an Aries moon, it'd be in her 12th house if she were a Taurus rising. How does she act in relationships?

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posted November 13, 2012 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FieryAries,

The description you gave triggered Pisces asc for me... perhaps because I was reminded of a Cancer sun/Taur moon/Pisces asc friend I had.

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FieryAries9108
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posted November 13, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FieryAries9108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Why don't you put a pic up, if you can. I think the pictures are supposed to go in the Beginners Forum.
I will look



here is a link to pictures: www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/000880.html

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FieryAries9108
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posted November 13, 2012 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FieryAries9108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Insilver:
FieryAries,

The description you gave triggered Pisces asc for me... perhaps because I was reminded of a Cancer sun/Taur moon/Pisces asc friend I had.



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posted November 13, 2012 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think she's a Pisces rising... Cos then her mercury would fall in her first house which should make her have gem rising attributes (thin limbs) and will make her tall (when she's more on the short side).

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posted November 13, 2012 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mandy pie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her personality traits and life circumstances during certain planetary periods would be a better indicator of what her ascendant is than any physical properties.

Example: Virgo lagnas/libra ascendants tend to have more difficult lives than say those of gemini lagna/ taurus ascendant... but of coarse the rest of the chart has to be seen as well.

Unfortunately- this is one of those things where hiring an experienced astrologer is important. Finding out the birth time of an individual takes HOURS of detailed work and it's not likely anyone is going to be willing to give up so much time and effort for free. Even if they are experience is needed to do a birth rectification as it's a pretty difficult process. Astrologers can charge anywhere between $50-$500 for a rectification depending on who they are and how much uncertainty is surrounding the time of events. I know of an astrologer that charges $195 at most for a rectification if you're interested. You would need - the birthday of the individual as well as the dates of significant life events that occurred in the individual's life. ex: when they got married; When they had surgeries, When one of their parents died, etc...

If you don't want to hire someone to do the work, I'm afraid you're only alternative is to use an astrology program and study the position of the planets for each of the 24 hours of that day... this will take you a while... and even then you're likely to be confused.

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FieryAries9108
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posted November 13, 2012 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FieryAries9108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mandy pie:
Her personality traits and life circumstances during certain planetary periods would be a better indicator of what her ascendant is than any physical properties.

Example: Virgo lagnas/libra ascendants tend to have more difficult lives than say those of gemini lagna/ taurus ascendant... but of coarse the rest of the chart has to be seen as well.

Unfortunately- this is one of those things where hiring an experienced astrologer is important. Finding out the birth time of an individual takes HOURS of detailed work and it's not likely anyone is going to be willing to give up so much time and effort for free. Even if they are experience is needed to do a birth rectification as it's a pretty difficult process. Astrologers can charge anywhere between $50-$500 for a rectification depending on who they are and how much uncertainty is surrounding the time of events. I know of an astrologer that charges $195 at most for a rectification if you're interested. You would need - the birthday of the individual as well as the dates of significant life events that occurred in the individual's life. ex: when they got married; When they had surgeries, When one of their parents died, etc...

If you don't want to hire someone to do the work, I'm afraid you're only alternative is to use an astrology program and study the position of the planets for each of the 24 hours of that day... this will take you a while... and even then you're likely to be confused.


What kind of program would I have to use? and is there any tutorial online how to do this?

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BBMonroe
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posted November 14, 2012 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BBMonroe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My gut says Taurus or Cancer ASC. by the looks of her, but the way she presents herself to others; mannerisms, speech, interests, even parts of her body that tend get the most attention (i.e. leo ascendants tend to get back pains, gemini = hands, cancer = stomach),etc also play a part. If you've read up on ASC already to narrow it down to those signs you named have you taken the latter into consideration?
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/astrotable.html
http://www.0800-horoscope.com/risingsigns/aries.php#.UKMxhoWmCqk

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