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posted November 19, 2012 10:33 AM            

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I know Ami Anne has unaspected Moon conjunct Dejanira but what aspects make for a bad relationship with dad... should I look at Saturn or the Sun? My dad doesn't like me and he doesn't give me affection but when I try to he always reject it.. and he never misses me when I am gone for a long time.. I don't think he loves me.

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posted November 19, 2012 11:20 AM            

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I have Pluto in 4th square my Mars in 12th, and I have had alot of problems with my father. Same problems as you, lack of affection, doesnt care, ignores any contact I try to make with him...

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posted November 19, 2012 11:33 AM            

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its gotten worse over the years

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posted November 19, 2012 11:40 AM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I know Ami Anne has unaspected Moon conjunct Dejanira but what aspects make for a bad relationship with dad... should I look at Saturn or the Sun? My dad doesn't like me and he doesn't give me affection but when I try to he always reject it.. and he never misses me when I am gone for a long time.. I don't think he loves me.

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No, I don't have that. Thank Goodness. For the dad, you look to which aspects your Sun makes. Come back and talk about it.

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posted November 19, 2012 11:52 AM            

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No, I don't have that. Thank Goodness. For the dad, you look to which aspects your Sun makes. Come back and talk about it.

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LOL! I thought you did!

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posted November 19, 2012 11:53 AM            

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I have sun conjunct saturn in 4th house square pluto.I have stressful relationship with my Dad.I have Mars in 4th house as well which may indicate violence at home.

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posted November 19, 2012 11:57 AM            

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sun in 6th
opposite neptune
square saturn

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posted November 19, 2012 12:10 PM            

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Both my Sun and Moon signs are opposite my father's sun and moon. Our Suns are opposed one another by 2 minutes.

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posted November 19, 2012 12:14 PM            

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LOL! I thought you did!

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No, but I am always talking about it

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posted November 19, 2012 12:14 PM            

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Chiron in fourth oppositie uranus/mars/ pluto and jupiter in 10th (conjuncting mc). I had a very hard time with my dad while growing up. He loved me but it was definitely dysfunctional - very abusive, mostly verbal but some physical.

Don't let it drag you down. Things like that serve to make you stronger, also now you know what not to do when it comes to your own children.

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posted November 19, 2012 01:50 PM            

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Like Ami Anne said, I would look to aspects made to the Sun. In your case, KarkaQueen, the Saturn square Sun aspect might offer the clue, as Saturn already represents the father principle in general.

The Neptune square or opposition is not so significant in this regard.

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posted November 19, 2012 01:54 PM            

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In my own case, I did have a difficult relationship with my dad growing up, which I resolved over time (Saturnian work).

This relationship is not reflected through sun aspects, as I have natal Saturn sextile my sun and natal Jupiter semi-sextile sun. Those are actually positive aspects. So I look to the natal square of Jupiter (one of my chart rulers) to Saturn as the indicator of a stressful relationship with my dad, instead of sun aspects.

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posted November 19, 2012 02:17 PM            

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Traditionally you look to the aspects your Sun makes to natal Saturn.

Look to natal Moon to Venus for mom.

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posted November 19, 2012 03:10 PM            

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I haven't seen my father (Capricorn) since I was about 6. He brought me an ice cream and left. Mother never spoke badly about him but truly can't imagine meeting him again. I have sun trine saturn. I was also separated from my mother (Scorpio) for many years (age 8 - 20) - our relationship was rocky, at the very least. I have moon trine venus. At this stage in life, my father is mia and my mother is deceased.

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posted November 19, 2012 06:25 PM            

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I had a strange relationship with my dad growing up. It wasn't like he disliked me but he was so much of an alcoholic which was kept a secret from most people that we never were able to build as stable of a relationship to be normal. Communications were fuzzy between us. He made me self-doubting and fearful to speak most of the time from how unwelcoming his presence was because he wasn't open or talkative. My natal chart says A LOT for this:

Saturn in 3rd house - see above about reluctance to talk on both ends
Saturn semi-square Neptune - this is to my IC ruler
Saturn square ASC - felt my dad never appreciated/saw me for who I was, made me feel cold, also I genetically inherited his depression and OCD tendencies

IC ruler is Neptune, representing Piscean negativities like his alcoholism.

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