posted November 20, 2012 10:36 PM            

Do you 'own' your 7th house planets or do you find yourself projecting them, or simply more attracted to those inherent energies found naturally in others? Are you more your 7th house placements/planets - energies, in a relationship or do you find them in the significant other first? Do you balance those energies well, or find yourself acting them out more in relationships? Or feel detatched from them, and only find them through intimate relationships?

Another thread made me think about this. I"m pretty low-key and don't like to be the center of attention....EVER.

My 7th house has Leo intercepted in it (Cancer on the cusp) with two masculine planets in the 7th (Mars and Saturn) in the outgoing sign of Leo, so in relationships, I find myself attracted to my Cap/Aqua opposite - someone who is outspoken, comfortable speaking in front of crowds, loves being the center of attention and is confident in any given situation involving an audiance or with people focused on them.

Ive dated some shy or quiet guys, but it's never worked out for very long. It becomes extremely awkward and I'm quickly unattracted. I think because I am naturally a shy and quiet person and so it's a bit too much to be in a relationship with someone so similar in that way. I need someone who doesnt hold back and is uninhibited and playful....and then my Leo side can come out and it becomes a lot of fun between the two of us. People who soak up the spotlight and arent afraid of it fascinate me. I can't waste my time trying to date another wallflower again....it never works.

posted November 20, 2012 11:01 PM            

I do love solar people. I don't mind ego centric partners at all that think they're the center of the universe. Danger is I might make them the center of mine. Probably would too.

Am attracted to very Venusian people as well. I like creativity, people that paint as a hobby, singers, etc..

posted November 20, 2012 11:37 PM            

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Own. I am sun and Venus in Taurus h7. I am obviously very very taurean. My venus is also one of the strongest planets in my chart so very expressed.

I do love solar people. I don't mind ego centric partners at all that think they're the center of the universe. Danger is I might make them the center of mine. Probably would too.

Am attracted to very Venusian people as well. I like creativity, people that paint as a hobby, singers, etc..

Wait does all that mean I don't own them? Lol!

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Well said! Spoken like a true Taurus. I totally hear everything you said. As a rule, us Venusians tend to sit back relax and .... attract. We prefer things that way. We arent into chasing people too much.

I also have no problem putting someone on a pedestal and making them the center or our universe (it's nice to have that in return sometimes too though), but that can get you into trouble sometimes. I think Taureans especially love to make partners feel special and like there is no one in the universe like them....we tend to spoil partners and sometimes they take advantage.

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Wait does all that mean I don't own them? Lol

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I just notice that sometimes people "are their 7th house" or the energies of the planets there - and other times they disown it and find those energies coming out of, or from the partner.

posted November 21, 2012 12:05 AM            

Actually, the best relationship I had was with a Taurus Sun & Moon (his moon exact conj. my Sun) .... if i remember correctly, his Saturn was in Taurus too. Wasnt meant to be, but so far the greatest love of my life. He was Cancer rising, oppo my Cappy.

OooOo Leo moon right up there? I bet we'd hit it off great in RL.

cool.

posted November 21, 2012 12:07 AM            

On S-turn...

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karmic lessons (Pluto, Saturn) in the seventh turns relationships into a crucible....where what's gained is deeply transformative in the end.

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posted November 21, 2012 12:20 AM            

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lol We should!

Actually, the best relationship I had was with a Taurus Sun & Moon (his moon exact conj. my Sun) .... if i remember correctly, his Saturn was in Taurus too. Wasnt meant to be, but so far the greatest love of my life. He was Cancer rising, oppo my Cappy.

OooOo Leo moon right up there? I bet we'd hit it off great in RL.

cool.

Yeah, i've Uranus conjunct my MC. So far it's just proven to give me an unsettled home/family life (being opposite IC) and many moves. Hoping I'll eventually be able to bring out the more positive side of that aspect as life goes on. They say Cappy risings lives get better as they get older. We'll see. *fingers crossed*

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My best was Taurus rising, opposite my scorp rising as well.. I was a total douche though.. So naturally i fudged that up. I love the way I am though right now. Open and sincere. Saturn is doing some pretty good stuff with me it seems. (I am on my Saturn return FYI)

Do u think ur Virgo moon makes u wallflower- ish?

posted November 21, 2012 04:49 AM            

In fact I'm usually not attracted to guys that fit the Leo archetype; I prefer sensitive, shy modest guys. My Venus is in Virgo, Mars is in Cancer, and I have Pisces on the cusp of the second house. The second is associated with personal values (among other things), so that probably accounts for it.

Have I been involved with Leonine guys in spite of that? Sure, one, but the Leo in him is actually the part that annoys me - his sensitivity and quiet side was the draw; he was pretty much hiding out alone in a corner when I first encountered him, and I was the one who approached him.

I don't project that house onto others because I'm very "Leo" in my basic temperament. I think where the seventh house element manifests, is in the form of making me express my Leo in a manner that's very company- and context-specific.

My Leo only comes out when I think it's an an appropriate time/place, and when I feel like I'm around people ("other people" being a seventh house theme) that I know well, feel comfortable and safe with, and like they appreciate me and won't give me a hard time for it. I'm not the type to trot into a room of strangers squawking at the top of my lungs. Certain conditions have to be met, and when they aren't, I definitely retreat into myself (Mars in Cancer) and lurk off to the side quietly in a corner...which isn't that hard for me to do, because I have a stellium in the eighth, which isn't exactly a super-social, visible house anyway.

This reminded me of a phone conversation I had with a guy once - Scorpio Sun, Sag Moon, Aquarius Ascendant. He had Leo on his descendant too, but none of his own planets were there. He was astro-aware and knew I was a Leo, and he seemed kind of surprised by how quiet I was. About five minutes into the conversation he actually went off on me about it : "You're a LEO, you're supposed to..."

I think he expected me to be his seventh house and take him on the "Wild Leo" amusement ride...and then when I didn't do it, he got angry. Some of it too is that I think people have this kind of simplistic view of what a Leo is or is supposed to be, that we're only supposed to have one side to our personalities, and that's being "ON" all the time, like we aren't capable of being complex human beings that don't always joke around and strut like peacocks all.the.time so they can feel entertained and they can project their fantasies onto, and live vicariously through us because they don't have the balls to go out there and "shine" themselves.

Then there's also the fact too that, we're called the kings and queens of the zodiac, for a reason. We very much have our own mind about things, and we're never going to respond well to someone actually expecting us to perform on command for them like a circus monkey, either. That'll make us go cold on you, real fast. I wound up feeling even less comfortable with that guy after he ranted at me like that, and eventually that sadness and discomfort with him combined with a certain amount of anger, and I started randomly hanging up in the middle of our phone calls, without saying goodbye or anything. I'd just hang up on him.

posted November 21, 2012 10:44 AM            

I don't relate well to Neptunian energy; perhaps with mine being combined with Jupiter-Mercury I just don't feel the influence of its energy so well...

If I am on some subconscious level seeking Pisces-Neptunian partners - it doesn't show in my dating portfolio~~~~ lol

I've had limited experience with Sun in Pisces, I don't think I know any Pisces Mooners; but, I do know if anywhere I like Pisces influence, it's gotta be Mercury~

Something very intuitive when someone has Pisces Mercury --- I love that near eccentric, sometimes mesmerizing way they communicate. ^^;

I don't cross paths with them enough to really say-

My biological father was Pisces Sun~ but that was his only placement there~ I don't think the fishies out there would want him representing them -ever-! lol He was a great guy, rest his soul... but, every negative trait you can think of associated commonly with Pisces... he exhibited to the nth degree!

I'd rather associate with fellow earthy (stability, security) gentlemen. *gotta be the earth in my chart~
And, I always find myself swept away by fire-types (ambition, passions). *overcrowded IV (SAG), with 8th house Aries~~

I'm least likely to fall for water signs... It's hard to relate when you feel opposite to them in every way ---

Cap Sun - Tau Moon - Vir ASC

posted November 21, 2012 12:17 PM            

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Do you 'own' your 7th house planets or do you find yourself projecting them, or simply more attracted to those inherent energies found naturally in others? Are you more your 7th house placements/planets - energies, in a relationship or do you find them in the significant other first? Do you balance those energies well, or find yourself acting them out more in relationships? Or feel detatched from them, and only find them through intimate relationships?

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I have a stellium in the 7th. It's difficult for me to try to disassemble whether those placement speak more about me or whether they speak about my interactions with others. Probably both in some ways.

I have Neptune, Venus, and Mercury in Sag in the 7th.

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Ive dated some shy or quiet guys, but it's never worked out for very long. It becomes extremely awkward and I'm quickly unattracted. I think because I am naturally a shy and quiet person and so it's a bit too much to be in a relationship with someone so similar in that way. I need someone who doesnt hold back and is uninhibited and playful....and then my Leo side can come out and it becomes a lot of fun between the two of us. People who soak up the spotlight and arent afraid of it fascinate me. I can't waste my time trying to date another wallflower again....it never works.

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My theory is that this dynamic has more to do with masculine and feminine energies. The feminine-dominant people want a venue to be more straightforward. Masculine-dominant people, on the other hand, are looking for a venue to be sensitive. Feminine-Feminine has a difficult time working, because neither party feels comfortable enough to express everything. They think their partner will be too sensitive. Masculine-masculine may have a hard time working, because they feel as if they have to project strength or their partner will think them weak.

posted November 21, 2012 02:26 PM              

OK, well here is my story. The ruler of my Sun is in the 7th, which just adds to that heavy 7th house energy, which is one of my most dominant house placement energies. I've always liked people (relationships and friendships) who were very outgoing and warmhearted, ones that could light up any room with their personalities and their charm. Who were happy go lucky and fun to be around. I mean I'd go weak in the knees for all kinds of charmers and I dated my fair share of Leo's growing up. Though I always felt I had a better connection with air signs specifically Aquarius. It does help that I have my Ascendant in Aquarius. The composed, zany, intellectual types were most intriguing to me. In relationships I'm many things maybe because I balance my energies pretty well, it becomes difficult to identify which is which, because they all flow together. I'm predominately 7th house and 8th house energies, with the rulers of those houses in those houses. So in relationships I'm outgoing and warm, and I guess a bit charming, us Libra's like to flirt. I can be intense though, with Venus in Leo (and a heavy 8th house), all that fixed energy, and I want what I want completely.

I tend to only date Leo's or Aquarius's so those relationships go one of two ways (seriously it's odd, a bit of projection maybe or just harmony). The Leo's mirror my 7th house energies but they can be too intense and a bit self absorbed. The Aquarius opposes my 7th house energies but balances out with my airy energies and my Aquarius Ascendant. Though they can be a bit too chilly and withdrawn. It's all very interesting. Over time I've learned my lesson as far as trying to balance myself out with another (it never works), I just continue to balance my own energies within. It's why I don't really agree with the idea of opposites balancing each other unless they are already balanced within themselves (it's all about individualism and authenticity). Maybe because of my 7th house energies, I tend to feel most harmonious with someone with similar energies (just not the exact same placements). I tend to be most attracted to 7th house people, who naturally put themselves in the shoes of others. I'll call them givers. But at the same time relationships where someone has been too similar to myself haven't really ever worked out. Here's to trines and sextiles!

posted November 21, 2012 03:31 PM            

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What is it all about?

Do you 'own' your 7th house planets or do you find yourself projecting them, or simply more attracted to those inherent energies found naturally in others? Are you more your 7th house placements/planets - energies, in a relationship or do you find them in the significant other first? Do you balance those energies well, or find yourself acting them out more in relationships? Or feel detatched from them, and only find them through intimate relationships?

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I think I tend to be attracted to the energies found in others. I am becoming more like my DSC as I mature but I'm always attracted to water/earth/air. Most, if not all, my friends have that combination and no fire. I know two men who have the same element placements as me (fire, air, earth) and they're both inconsistent in their attention. So, I think I attract my stable friends with the air/water/earth to help balance me.

posted November 21, 2012 09:06 PM            

Thinking about it more earlier today, i realized that some people i know might disagree with my assessment of myself because I can be my Leo 7th house as well - quite strongly sometimes....outgoing and not shy at all..... It just depends on the situation and people around me mostly.

I was remembering a female aquaintence from a group of people i hung out with a lot (a bunch of us would often meet up at our favorite bars or at parties) who said something to me about how I always make her feel so welcome and special when she arrived and she noticed i did that with everyone. Always happy to see new people walk in the door and hug and greet them. She commented how I greeted her like I hadnt seen her in ten years and she liked how I always seemed happy to see her and greeted her with a warm hug etc. and pointed out that it was genuine and nice. It made her feel more comfortable to be there.

So, thinking of it that way, i'd have to say that is me being - or "owning" my Leo self in relationships. Or one aspect of it anyway. I can see how I've been the Leo (& mars and saturn) in my relationships and also given it up to the other person too.

The Mars/Saturn thing can go hot or cold. Like someone described about Leo being "on" all the time and how it's not usually the case. I agree. I can't be that way either and need quiet alone time fairly often, or turn it off. I have known a few Leos who were quite low key and quiet actually, so maybe most astro books just don't focus on that side of the Leo personality enough. When it's definitely there.

k, more i want to say and will later. Thanks for the insight guys. Very interesting.

posted November 21, 2012 09:10 PM            

We still need to exchange emails. Glad to see you popping in again too. I shouldnt be here as I've a ton of work to do, but this is a nice place to take a break.

AG, hey bud. I really liked what you had to say about the masculine and feminine energies. So true!

posted November 21, 2012 09:29 PM            

They say Asc oppo another's Asc can be a big draw and make for a pretty solid relationship. Ive found that to be true.

posted November 21, 2012 10:00 PM              

Yes, can we please do that! I will send an email to the powers that be and ask them kindly to share my email with you! If that sounds good. Whatever works best!

posted November 21, 2012 11:01 PM              

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Whitney Houston was a lovely Leo.

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posted November 22, 2012 07:45 AM            

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She was Sand. She was so honest and passionate about her music. Virgo was on her 7th house cusp and she had Pluto, Mars an Mercury in the 7th. She cared deeply about her work and her loved ones, but she put too much pressure on herself. I think she was her biggest critic.It's sad the way things tragically ended for her. She was a true icon.

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Her voice seemed to come from another world. She really sang like an angel. Incredible.