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Insilver
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posted November 22, 2012 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all, I posted this this in personal readings but haven't received any feedback yet so I thought I'd post it here... sorry if it's not in the ideal spot.

I would be grateful if anyone would take a look at this chart... had an encounter with this guy who could barely conceal his hatred and contempt... never met before and didn't provoke him but the inappropriateness and complete lack of empathy bothers me. Thank you for your time.

Oh sorry I forgot to add that I don't know his TOB so that will affect a couple of things.

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KarkaQueen
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posted November 22, 2012 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Nessus conjunct Mars in a male's chart is def bad.. Haha

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posted November 22, 2012 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~that Dejanira is pretty darn close to Chiron...

he could have been betrayed by women, so now he has a distrust of them... possibly a misogynist...??? Possible superiority complex/sexist attitude~ with Virgo SUN/MARS-Nessus...?

I'm no expert~ at this though, would like to hear what others see~~~

Can I ask what he was doing at the time that he was putting out such a negative vibe?

~Pluto is close to Lucifer~~~~~ too~~

eeeyeah~ I dunno, how to interpret that one - but it would definitely make me wonder if he was brought up with some serious or "traditional"-views on women/authority...

I would think the Libra influence on him would make him at least communicate in an indiscriminate way~ But, Libran energy go to one or the other extreme, can have off-balance natures... ime~ sometimes even get stuck in their own ideas of what is right-wrong-fair, and never see the other side... lol bipolar energies?


I'm more theorizing than actually interpreting though~~~ hope more knowledgeable astrologists here will give a more proper/more accurate delineation~

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Insilver
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posted November 22, 2012 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KarkaQueen, yes it's peachy isn't it... first thing I noticed. lol

SaturnineMoth, cool name btw... I noticed the Pluto/Lucifer conj is opp to Jupiter and I remember in a sociopath thread it was said to watch for stressful aspects to Jupiter (AmiAnne I believe)

The Libra influence in his case would be unstable as he appeared to have very bad communication skills... maybe smoother when he's not angry. Never thought about bipolar energies but thanks for mentioning that, it makes sense.

I missed Dejaneira sitting next to Chiron... yeah that's definately telling as he seems to have zero respect for women especially those in authority or challenging him.

It was a strange encounter... he flipped out on me at his work after hours because I was window shopping and he figured I had no right to be there. The hatred and suddenness of it nearly made me lose my composure but I stood firm... it felt like he was attacking me on a psychic level. Two of his superiors confided he needs anger management and he has been verbally abusive to them as well. They seemed somewhat intimidated by him. Very ugly energy.

Thank you for taking a look and sharing your thoughts... it really helps. I haven't got to the point yet in my studies of astrology that I can see the chart the way you and the more experienced ones can but I will keep studying.

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Odette
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posted November 22, 2012 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Violent? Yes!
All talk? No!

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Lonake
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posted November 23, 2012 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon sq Mars is Yikes enough on its own, if it's also opp to Saturn, just, well I wouldn't. That's all I'll say.
Then there's Sun sq Uranus, Mars sq Saturn...with these you don't want to get in his way.

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greatquincunx
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posted November 23, 2012 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greatquincunx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those negative aspects with moon-mars are ugly! Moon in Gemini making undesirable aspects does sound verbally abusive. I've seen it! I remember aguy going off multiple times with the quincunx aspect.. it was really awkward and very sensitive ..

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posted November 23, 2012 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah that Moon/Mars/S-turn t-square is pretty troubling. And in mutable signs! He'll have issues trying to direct or control his rage.

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StacyLewis
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posted November 23, 2012 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Empathy lack? No way, not with Neptune in the first, trining Jupiter...and that Jupiter then forms a positive aspect to his Venus.

The guy is far from heartless, deep down.

At the same time, yeah, if you cross him, he probably does have a bad temper and he's a scrapper and probably will have no problem letting you know you got on his bad side.

My first thought here is to want to ask you what you did to set him off, because I'm not getting from that chart that he'll just wildly fly off the handle without being provoked first. This chart is more of a "This is a loving person, but if you p*ss him off, God help you", than a predatory-monster type of chart.

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RedScorp
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posted November 23, 2012 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^His time of birth is unknown.

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Insilver
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posted November 24, 2012 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for giving your impressions here... very helpful!

I didn't really do anything to set him off... besides telling him I didn't appreciate his very dirty look from inside the store he works at to me outside window shopping. He came to the front door and unlocked it to confront/snarl at me with his manager, reg. manager and coworkers a few feet away, looking on in amazement and embarrassment. The hatred and contempt from someone I've never met or seen before... wow. Got his name, googled him and figured I'd post his chart to see what I could learn.

Moon-mars opp Saturn does not sound like a good time at all... verbally abusive, unable to control his rage, violent yes and don't get in his way. Got it. Time to do a cord-cutting meditation.

Thanks again.

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StacyLewis
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posted November 24, 2012 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RedScorp:
^His time of birth is unknown.

I didn't comment on the moon position. I commented on outers, their aspects to one another, and their positions by house placement. All of which, are generational and relatively unaffected by a lack of birth time.

Anything else?

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RedScorp
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posted November 24, 2012 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StacyLewis; you mention Neptune in the First. His birth time could very well place Neptune in a completely different house, if it's not/not near 12 noon.

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