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RunAroundScreaming
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posted November 28, 2012 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see it. Can anybody help me out? lol

EDIT: I guess I can see it in his somewhat annoying hyperactive personality. Seen it in a few aqua guys. But I dont see it appesrance-wise. Can anyone help? I'm trying to practice

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posted November 28, 2012 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LA tobs are usually up to minute,it's AA,so I guess no reason to doubt except that's awfully late degree at 29°27',where every sec matters.

I think he's more Piscean.

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posted November 28, 2012 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm really pisces?

interesting
yeah never really thought about it

actually, he does seem piscean more than aqua at least haha

I actually saw aries.

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posted November 28, 2012 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm nevermind i see the aqua now
its that refined way of dressing and that sometimes hippie ish vibe that he dons some days

yeah i can see it now.
i think i was confusing it for aries because the aries sun guy that i thought he looked like has leo moon like him.

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posted November 28, 2012 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure,not much help though...

I bet that Leo Moon earned him "self-entitled brat" rep; He has the fixed look,yes.

I was probably subjective,not being accustomed to possibilty of bland Aqua risers.

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posted November 28, 2012 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ditto to the self entitled brat thing
and yeah i can just see leo also because i always noticed leo influence has a "foxy eyed" look

i guess another way to describe is "cat eyes" which fits leo the lion lol


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posted November 28, 2012 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey what? Self entitled brat? Leo moons??

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posted November 28, 2012 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, yeah I don't get that Aquarius vibe from him and I'm an Aquarius Rising. He has a round face and from what I've observed Aquarius on the ascendant produces more chiseled features, ie Matt Damon. He also seems kind of all over the place, in an unstable way not eccentric or unique way. He doesn't seem to have the focus of Aquarius either, but then again I don't know him personally so I'm just going off of his public persona.

He's a bit of a mess, and he's admitted this before in interviews. He seems unstable, but I see depth within him. I agree with the postulation that he has Pisces Rising.

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posted November 28, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah i am undecided.
he looks like my friend who is pisces sun aqua moon

but also he dresses like joseph gordon levitt and some other aqua celebs, and like all the aqua risings on librarising.com
and his personality is like ashton kutcher and some other aqua guys i know in real life who have this kinda chatterbox energetic and kinda strange personality lol

i usually associate pisces rising with really sweet and kinda sad looking and innocent looking as well. he doesnt have that so much. i dunno i am undecided, but if i were basing it on his personality i would pick aqua over pisces.

if it were his looks i would prob pick pisces. just doesnt look aqua to me appearance wise lol


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posted November 29, 2012 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Y does everyone look like your friends? how many friends do u have that look like movie stars?

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posted November 29, 2012 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see where you're coming from RAS.

I actually think he dresses like a typical Gemini. The a bit scruffy with jeans and a t-shirt look (very sexy by the way). I think his erratic energy comes more from being a Sun Gemini, then the possibility of him being an Aquarius Rising. He doesn't really fit the temperament, body type and personality of a typical Aquarius Rising. His behavior doesn't speak to Aqua Rising. He is evidently always in bar altercations, which speaks to his hair trigger temper (possibly related to that Gemini nervous energy) and emotional nature (water). I actually think he has this delicate quality about him though which I'd attribute to Pisces or Water Rising. No matter how scruffy he's dressed or looks he always seems to give off this aura of tenderness. He definitely seems to me like he has water rising.

Evidently Adele has Aquarius Rising. Which actually makes a great deal of sense to me. She has this very Uranian/old soul quality about her and a very focused nature. I just don't see that Uranian type energy in Shia, but he's a good actor and I personally dig Gemini's.

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posted November 29, 2012 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He also has Uranus exactly opposite his sun. To me personally, Aqua rising makes a lot of sense.

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posted November 29, 2012 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Yes, I agree with you. You've convinced me

I've just never seen an aqua rising that didn't have that airy pleasant/passive smile or look to them. which shia doesnt have. Shia has that tender look in his eyes like you said.

and he does look a lot like my pisces friend.

Also looks like Einstein, like his profile does. His nose and the languid eyes, and the shape of the head/jaw

What i noticed most about aqua rising or aqua influence is that the eyes usually look electric. Usually they are blue or green, but even if they're dark they just look like electric mad scientist eyes. their eyes stand out in some way from the rest of their face. and thats the main thing i noticed shia doesnt have

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posted November 29, 2012 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes the air risings all have a passive "nice" smile/facial expression, which shia doesnt have.

The aqua risings do have more chiseled or pointy features like you said, NativelyJoan

Everyone knows pisces risings have round features so i didnt post one for them lol

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posted November 29, 2012 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe indifferent/couldn't care less instead kf passive as you say?

Fixed Asc have strong,leaning toward squared jawline. Heavy,stong bones look.

He is well proportioned,which is Air thing.


Btw,David Bowie is Aqua Rising,not Libra,his Cap Sun makes the difference,not as heavy in apperance as the fixed signs (men) tend to be.
Just read Adam Lambert is Libra Asc,pretty-yes He made an astro tattoo,A woman with ram horns and water flowing from mouth,to illustrate his Aqua Sun,Libra Asc,Aries Moon.

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posted November 29, 2012 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh haha yes Aqua rising def makes sense for David Bowie. Looks just like Christopher Walken, aqua sun!

I think that Adam Lambert used to look libra rising before he did some weird thing to his eyebrows and overtanned himself or whatever he did lol i dunno


^that typical sweet libra rising expression, so lovely ^___^

--matt damon (libra sun), leo dicaprio (libra rising) vibes in this one


matt damon vibes there too and some other libras i know

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posted November 29, 2012 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Also looks like Einstein, like his profile does. His nose and the languid eyes, and the shape of the head/jaw....

You are right, he does look a great deal like Einstein facially. Especially with the beard and long hair. And yeah, I agree that he doesn't have that electric eyes feeling that you get from most Aquarius type individuals.

I thought it was interesting that Astrotheme mentioned he had Aquarius Rising (though they aren't exactly known for being accurate when it comes to ascendants). But I look at him and just don't see it and his behavior doesn't seem to substantiate it. I don't disagree though that, as mentioned above through his Uranus opposite Sun aspect, he has Uranian energy. I just don't think it's in the form of Aquarius Rising. There is a seriousness (fixed vibe) about those with Aquarius Rising, and I just don't get that from Shia's outer appearance and personality. But I might get a different vibe from him in person, I'd be able to analyze his mannerisms, personality and temperament better.

Paul McCartney is a Gemini Sun, Leo Moon, Pisces Rising individual. There is a certain sloppiness/silliness to Paul, like he just doesn't care but he seems like he has a heart of gold. I get that vibe from Shia.

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posted November 29, 2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NativelyJoan,Astrodatabank says his ToB is AA,00:14.

I think (haven't checked) that a minute or two could change the sign.

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posted November 29, 2012 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I saw that too but appearance/personality wise I just don't see it. There is always room for error when recording birth times and considering he is literally right on the cusp of Aquarius/Pisces Rising. I wonder if asked what would Shia say he feels more like? To me, he acts and looks more like a Gemini with Pisces Rising not Aquarius.

Edit: forgot to mention Shia has Jupiter in Pisces in the 1st house.

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posted November 29, 2012 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting

thanks so much guys. i thought no one was gonna reply to this. bahaha

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posted November 29, 2012 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I don't see it. Can anybody help me out? lol

EDIT: I guess I can see it in his somewhat annoying hyperactive personality. Seen it in a few aqua guys. But I dont see it appesrance-wise. Can anyone help? I'm trying to practice


If the time is accurate, then I don't doubt he's an Aqua ascendant whatsoever. Honestly, in reality almost no one resembles the physical descriptions of their ascendant sign anyway, and 9 times out of ten when people try to guess someone's rising sign by looks alone, they get it wrong.

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posted November 29, 2012 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Convinced it's pisces rising now

In this interview when Shia was young around justin's age in MIM, he looks and acts so much like Justin Berfield in Malcolm in the middle. I was watching the clip of the part when he was rly young and i was like who does he remind me of, i know he reminds me of someone. and then it hit me lol. turns out justin is pisces.


Berfield:

interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La48luWb1Gw

The part he reminds me of Berfield is @2:46


He also looks like the all grown up Berfield

My friend, the one with pisces sun aqua moon, also looks just like Berfield. I dont think its coincidence. Going with pisces rising. Thanks NativelyJoan, you are good!
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posted November 30, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks NativelyJoan, you are good!

Thanks! I actually think we both did a good job discerning the evidence to figure out which placement better suited him. Though according to records he's directly on the cusp of Aquarius/Pisces Rising, with Jupiter in Pisces in the 1st (accounting for probably most of that Pisces energy we're perceiving about him). In my mind though, Shia will always appear more like a Pisces Rising, with the airy-ness within him coming from his Gemini Sun.

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posted November 30, 2012 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all your help!
perfect.

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posted November 30, 2012 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think its aqua rising at all. just dont see it

The bushy eyebrows are a staple of pisces rising.

i forgot he has those. but the truth is we shall never know for sure. lol. Thanks again!



http://www.librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/piscesrising2.html

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