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Topic: SCORPIO RISING PLUTO CONJUNCT ASCENDANT
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LilyLil Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 29, 2012 05:48 PM
Hi everyone!!!! I've been reading posts here a lot of time, but this is the first time that i post something on it I'm a girl and i'm 22 years and after i saw that a lot of people here are scorpio risings i decided to write here because i need someone with this placement to talk about how they personally feel it, specially with the enviroment and people around you. Do you feel that as you grow up it becomes more "intense"?? Are you concious about your ascendant?? Do you think it really affects your appearance?? Has anyone with this placement had any experience with "the spiritual"?? Do you believe in past lifes and reincarnation?? Because, as a Scorpio rising, i'm more and more convinced that this ascendant is so relationated with the whole issue of reincarnation. Scorpio ascendants reply please!!!! PD: Sorry if my english isn't very good :P
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 63472 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 29, 2012 06:00 PM
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Debby4 Knowflake Posts: 1319 From: TX,USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted November 29, 2012 06:51 PM
Your English is just fine! Better than most NATIVE English speakers! I am not a Scorpio rising minutes off but my sister is a Scorpio rising with Pluto on it and she is to most other people apparently "mean looking." (rolls eyes) She is at time mean but for the most part she's really nice and caring especially about her younger siblings aka our little brother, our little sister, and me! ^_^ I can't tell you if she's had any spiritual break through or anything. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8222 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 29, 2012 08:11 PM
I dont really think so. I dont think it means anything special. It just gives you a scorpio influence, just like if it were your sun or moon.but for example, my friend is scorpio sun, virgo moon and saggie rising everyone tells her she looks like nicki minaj nicki has saggie sun, virgo moon, scorpio rising and she really does look a lot like my friend. Nicki acts and looks like a scorpio like my friend who is scorpio sun, but their asc and sun signs being interchanged and moon being the same.... even though they act very similar their inner selves are kinda different. like my scorpio sun friend is less outspoken than nicki and less confident, also slightly less playful and enthusaistic, but still very similar in personality to her. but they look and act the same. YET nicki has scorpio rising and my friend has it as her sun. nothing special. one is not more special or different than the other. scorpio rising gives you piercing eyes? So will scorpio sun, or scorpio moon just the same. i do think that pluto rising matters tho. inasfar as it will affect your outlook on life. but i still think it just gives yet another scorpio influence, just like a sun or moon in scorpio would.
I have pluto rising since i have libra rising....lots of libra risings and scorpio risings have pluto rising in this generation. Anyway, i just feel that it makes me look like i have something in scorpio. I slightly resemble a lot of scorpio sun or scorpio moon ppl i know/have seen. ------------------ $3.50 ebay compatibility readings | testimonials | Past readings | Ideal compatibility (3rd post) | Q&A | What's a Love stellium? | Most important aspects descriptions | Aspects to avoid
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RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8222 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 29, 2012 08:23 PM
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Gem-Gurl Knowflake Posts: 2050 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 30, 2012 12:22 AM
Hi and welcome!!I have Pluto conj ASC in Scorpio.... i am 19 and i dont REALLY feel my rising much, only sometimes, lately it has become a lot more apperent to me. Im glad, because i love that my rising is Scorpio! It makes me feel better somehow, because my sun is in Gemini and moon in Cancer, i feel that my rising gives me... strength somehow. Less of a cute/flighty/elfyness. More presence. I definatly believe that it influences my appearence. I have brown eyes and both my bros have the same eyes. But mine are much bigger (prob the Cancer moon though) but they have a dark pull almost i feel, like you cant not look. Especially when i emphisis them with makeup. I have had spiritual stuff happen. I do not belive in reincarnation or past/second lives. I hope i answered your questions well enough, and that you learned from me!! ------------------ Quote i like---> "A collection of rare thoughts is nothing less then a cabinet of intellectual 'Gems' " - William B. Spraque with slight editing by me!! IP: Logged |
magicspells Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 30, 2012 03:14 AM
PLuto conjunct scorpio ascendant here (7 degree orb)Do you feel that as you grow up it becomes more "intense"?? DEFINITELY.. especially in the past few years, heck.. even past 6 months I've never felt more scorpio, barely even identify as a Virgo anymore (but I also have other scorpionic aspects like moon square pluto and and pluto trine mc) Are you concious about your ascendant? Yeah, you know what, sometimes I even turn a switch on to 'intensify' it when I'm around someone I deem threatening or simply don't like But at times I'm not conscious of it either until my honest friends mention someting about my behaviour lol Do you think it really affects your appearance? I don't think I have the intense eyes.. my eyes are on the small side and almond shape.. I'm the worst judge of myself so I couldn't truly say! Has anyone with this placement had any experience with "the spiritual"?? Hmmmm nothing worth mentioning Do you believe in past lifes and reincarnation?? Hell yes, I've never had past life visions or anthing.. it's instinctive belief shall I say IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Here and There Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 30, 2012 03:46 AM
I am a Scorpio rising with Pluto in Scorpio closely conjunct my ASC from the 12th house.Yes, i do feel more intense as i age. People have described me as sneaky, slinky, "looking like you're up to something". People think I give an intense stare..and when I glare, some people get angry at me. Some have become scared. I find it kinda funny My appearance changes/transforms all the time. I do have an intense personality and appearance, even if I don't think it's that intense..something about the way I carry myself. I have Venus in Scorpio in my 1st house, thankfully..that softens up the harshness of Pluto quite a bit. On the outside, at least. On the inside, I am constantly analyzing my surroundings, the people with me, I'm always suspicious and investigating and trying to push boundaries. I like to be dramatic and destructive when the right time calls for it. IP: Logged |
LilyLil Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 30, 2012 05:57 AM
WOW I'm so happy!! In my real life I do not usually meet many Scorpio risings (i don't know why) and I am of those who always seems to ask the time of birth of people (i know, sounds a little obsessive :P) but it's because i like astrology and i feel i understand.Debby4 thanks, i was a little nervous about my english. I guess that sometimes i put the same scorpio stare as your sister....i think many scorpio risings does that thing but sometimes i think to myself why i'm being so distant or defensive with people...but then seems that your sister has that "scorpio protection forever" :P with her family.... RunAroundScreaming as you think, i don't think that it gives anything special but i really think that inside the scorpio vibration/influence there is something that is directly connected with past lifes and reincarnation, i read somewhere that a person with scorpio rising could pass all their lifes without being aware of their energy because this is a really difficult energy to integrate in you, it depends in the rest of the chart, but i think if "you look inside you" and observe yourself you can see that connection i am talking about....and i say the same thing about pluto, i forget pluto. Pluto it's what really scares me,although it is in libra or in scorpio,pluto in the first house can give this same energy abour birth and rebirth,past lifes,etc....but again i say that is your own work try to see this in yourself....is a very subtle energy, but is there. I had no idea that Nicki Minaj was a Scorpio rising, i love her!! How do you know?? Because a few months ago there was no birth-time for her....really i can see her virgo moon. Anyway i think wherever scorpio influence is (sun,moon,....) i think it gives the potencial to see this, sometimes scorpio pluto influence is very hidden....to you and to others. Gem-Gurl i am not 100% concious about my scorpio rising....but when i was in highschool i was much more unconcius of it. Nowadays i feel that is more "integrated" in me, a few years ago i felt like the others were those who saw this energy in me....and had very strong reactions from people but now i think i'm learning how to controle it....i'm learning how my ascendant works i suppose, and is changing me in many ways....for good. I do the same thing with makeup....now i'm more natural with it but a few years ago i was completely obsessed with smokey eye look. So you have had spiritual stuff happen?? MagicSpells i think all the scorpio or pluto rising has this thing with the eyes....and i do exactly the same thing when i'm around someone i don't like....but sometimes i hate myself for doing this....i feel when i was 16 i was much more outgoing,easygoing and now i like be with my friends, going out, partying, yes....but now i'm more "closed" too, because I do not trust people the same way as before and like you really i believe in reincarnation and i think that has the answers to many many things. Frankie2912 i know what you mean when you say that your appearance changes/transforms all the time, i noticed this in photos, i have photos of different times and people told me i look like "other person" this is pure scorpio influence :P IP: Logged |
LilyLil Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 30, 2012 06:13 AM
Randall thanks for the welcome How can i upload images here?? Thank uIP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5452 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 30, 2012 08:42 AM
I am scorpio ascendant with pluto in first house.My appearance has changed a lot over the years and I believe it will keep changing until the end.Along with my appearance my personality has also changed.Everything seems to run smoothly for a while then something happens and I change.I can divide my life into different chapters.I have intense eyes.They are the only part of me that I like. Do I believe in reincarnation?yes but I think there are reincarnations of different personalities in one life of scorpio asc. I have not had any spiritual experience until now but I have developed a lot in that area in last few years.
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anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5452 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 30, 2012 08:43 AM
I am scorpio ascendant with pluto in first house.My appearance has changed a lot over the years and I believe it will keep changing until the end.Along with my appearance my personality has also changed.Everything seems to run smoothly for a while then something happens and I change.I can divide my life into different chapters.I have intense eyes.They are the only part of me that I like. Do I believe in reincarnation?yes but I think there are reincarnations of different personalities in one life of scorpio asc. I have not had any spiritual experience until now but I have developed a lot in that area in last few years.
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LilyLil Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 30, 2012 08:52 AM
I feel exactly the same as you, I feel my life is divided in chapters, each well defined chapters and of course also have been accompained by changes in both the physical and in my mind...."Do I believe in reincarnation?yes but I think there are reincarnations of different personalities in one life of scorpio asc." I agree with you, is a very rare thing....
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sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted November 30, 2012 10:50 AM
I have always thought heathcliff from wuthering heights was textbook scorp asc.. Not sure of the conjunct to pluto.. But scorp asc yeah.. The Neptune in cap sextile I suppose contributes to the changing faces. IP: Logged |
virgolotus Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 30, 2012 12:15 PM
As most people said my appearance/personality has changed a lot. I don't have Pluto conj but it's in my first house. I've had many spiritual experiences in my 20 years of life. I think my Jupiter/Sun sextile Pluto made me really interested in the darker side of life which just added to my Asc. I got involved in a lot of crazy stuff and learned many lessons because of it and became more spiritual. About 5 years ago I was nothing spiritual. I believed in no God and was strictly stuck in believing life was logical and scientific. Things happen to us Scorpio risers that changes us for the better. We transform our old ways into new ways that help us attain those strong traits Scorpio risers are said to have. Also 'becoming more intense as you grow' I think as with every other Asc, as we grow our Asc gets stronger because our personality(1H) develops more with age.IP: Logged |
LilyLil Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 01, 2012 08:51 AM
Sand: What does neptune sextile ascendant mean for you?? I mean do you think every aspect to the ascendant affects to your appearance?? In that case what do you think about this aspect.IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 01, 2012 10:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAEq3mdOYBU “…there is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there. It is hard for me to make sense on any given level. Myself is fabricated, an aberration. I am a noncontingent human being. My personality is sketchy and unformed, my heartlessness goes deep and is persistent. My conscience, my pity, my hopes disappeared a long time ago (probably at Harvard) if they ever did exist. There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it, I have now surpassed. I still, though, hold on to one single bleak truth: no one is safe, nothing is redeemed. Yet I am blameless. Each model of human behavior must be assumed to have some validity. Is evil something you are? Or is it something you do? My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape. But even after admitting this—and I have countless times, in just about every act I’ve committed—and coming face-to-face with these truths, there is no catharsis. I gain no deeper knowledge about myself, no new understanding can be extracted from my telling. There has been no reason for me to tell you any of this. This confession has meant nothing….” IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 01, 2012 11:05 AM
Am not sure about the aspects.. too many things hit my ac.. pluto, moon, Venus, merc, Neptune..IP: Logged |
ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 31 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 04, 2015 09:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAEq3mdOYBU “…there is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there. It is hard for me to make sense on any given level. Myself is fabricated, an aberration. I am a noncontingent human being. My personality is sketchy and unformed, my heartlessness goes deep and is persistent. My conscience, my pity, my hopes disappeared a long time ago (probably at Harvard) if they ever did exist. There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it, I have now surpassed. I still, though, hold on to one single bleak truth: no one is safe, nothing is redeemed. Yet I am blameless. Each model of human behavior must be assumed to have some validity. Is evil something you are? Or is it something you do? My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape. But even after admitting this—and I have countless times, in just about every act I’ve committed—and coming face-to-face with these truths, there is no catharsis. I gain no deeper knowledge about myself, no new understanding can be extracted from my telling. There has been no reason for me to tell you any of this. This confession has meant nothing….”
Can't open the video. Did you write that? If not whom did you quote? Would interest me. I'm scorpio ascendant myself wth a one degree pluto conj to my asc. A part of me can relate to all of that somehow, I feel sympathy for anyone who actually feels like that, but that's about it. I don't enjoy having that aspect. It is what it is.. Most of you described it quiet well. The power of manupulation is a two-way sword, in the end you always end up alone. Having the south node in scorpio as well, it's something that I'm working on to move away from.
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ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 31 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 04, 2015 09:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAEq3mdOYBU “…there is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there. It is hard for me to make sense on any given level. Myself is fabricated, an aberration. I am a noncontingent human being. My personality is sketchy and unformed, my heartlessness goes deep and is persistent. My conscience, my pity, my hopes disappeared a long time ago (probably at Harvard) if they ever did exist. There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it, I have now surpassed. I still, though, hold on to one single bleak truth: no one is safe, nothing is redeemed. Yet I am blameless. Each model of human behavior must be assumed to have some validity. Is evil something you are? Or is it something you do? My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape. But even after admitting this—and I have countless times, in just about every act I’ve committed—and coming face-to-face with these truths, there is no catharsis. I gain no deeper knowledge about myself, no new understanding can be extracted from my telling. There has been no reason for me to tell you any of this. This confession has meant nothing….”
Can't open the video. Did you write that? If not whom did you quote? Would interest me. I'm scorpio ascendant myself wth a one degree pluto conj to my asc. A part of me can relate to all of that somehow, I feel sympathy for anyone who actually feels like that, but that's about it. I don't enjoy having that aspect. It is what it is.. Most of you described it quiet well. The power of manupulation is a two-way sword, in the end you always end up alone. Having the south node in scorpio as well, it's something that I'm working on to move away from.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8440 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 04, 2015 09:54 AM
I have libra AC conjunct Pluto 3 degrees My daughter has AC scorp@25, Pluto saggy@5 My son has AC scorp@29, Pluto sag@10We all have the same theme, mine much more intensely than there's, we are breaking free from the control of a cult. I was raised in it, but I left and have spent their entire lives trying to separate myself and create a new life for us. Their father is still an active member of the cult and tries to force them to be a part of it, they have me so they don't feel the pressure and destruction like I did but it's still there just a weaker version for them. Thank God!!
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lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 1279 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted February 04, 2015 10:41 AM
I always feel people see me as intense and 90% of the time they're intimidated by me which i love now, when i was younger i thought 'what the heck is wrong with me?, why don't you like me?' Now i couldn't care less... It made me find strenght and self esteem from within rather than measure myself by how many friends i have or who likes me or not.. Especially last 2 years with saturn transitting my 1st i've found myself.. And i couldn't be happier.. 3.00 scorpio rising pluto 5.55 degrees scorpio IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2103 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted March 22, 2016 12:06 PM
Bump! I have a question about Pluto conjunct asc. (Natal aspect) I didn't care to make a new thread for it. Do you think that having Pluto conjunct asc can cause people outside your relationship to see you as controlling and jealous? I've learned of this recently and both of us are quite dumbfounded. We have no idea why this person would have thought such things about me. IP: Logged |
eyes_like_pisces Knowflake Posts: 391 From: mpls, mn, usa Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 23, 2016 01:55 AM
I have scorpio moon in 12H at 8 degrees, Pluto at 12 degrees and my Ascendant at 19 degrees. People comment a lot on my appearance and mannerisms. People are always telling me what mood I'm in by looking at me (they're not always right of course) so think for that reason alone the ascendant is important. I dont think i naturally look like a traditional scorpio. More like my pisces sun. Born blonde and blue eyed. I had my hair dyed dark and tend to wear darker clothes etc. Lots of people have told me that I'm an old soul. That they can tell I'm smart even though i dont talk much. And ive read about pluto on the ascendant being related to a difficult birth. A transformative experience. If theres any sign/placement that had to do with reincarnation I'd say its scorpio pluto conj ascendant. In fact my mom was hit by a car when she was pregnant with me and had a c-section delievery. IP: Logged |
XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Virginia, USA Registered: Feb 2016
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posted March 23, 2016 05:10 PM
I have a Scorpio rising conjunct Sun(1H) and Mercury(1H) A lot of people say that my eyes are beautiful, thanks to the Scorpio rising ------------------ AC- Scorpio Sun- Scorpio Moon- Taurus IP: Logged | |