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Topic: How to Find Birth Time (Preferably Free)?
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Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 09, 2012 10:46 PM
You all already know I'm pretty convinced that I'm a Scorpio Rising.However because I don't know my precise birth time and what I've been told conflicts with what my Rising Sign is.As I said before my dad tells me I was born at 8 PM which would leave me as a Libra Rising while my Mom tells me I was born at 9 PM which would leave me as a Scorpio Rising 8°. Add 23 minutes from exactly 8 PM or if in other words I was born at 8:23 PM in my country of birth, I would be Scorpio Rising 0°. I already KNOW I am a SCORPIO RISING based on my life events and the traits Scorpio Risers are generally known to have as well as based on physical appearance and health. However I do want to find the exact degree of Scorpio Rising so I could analyze my chart by the Sabian Degrees and I am still nervous at the possibility I may actually be a Libra Rising. I want to make sure all the aspects in my chart are correct. In addition, I want to know what my correct Secret Animal is (Chinese Astrology placement based on hour of birth). Based on the description of the Chinese Zodiac, I think my Secret Animal is most likely Dog but Chinese Astrology states 9 PM is EXACTLY when the Secret Animal hour from Dog to Pig. So I want to know exactly so I can finally use my chart for advance Astrology readings. Can anyone here tell of a method to find one's birth time (birth certificate is fine). I would prefer if I could get the info in an instant and for free. I would already have requested my birth certificate copy if the process wasn't such a hassle. I'm already considering using an online database but I'm leery about using my credit card both out of fear of identity theft and because I'm only supposed to use it for school-related stuff. Can anyone here help?
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MillyX Knowflake Posts: 434 From: canada Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 09, 2012 11:08 PM
When I was new to astro, I had the same problem as you. I wasn't sure of my birth time & birth certificates before the year 1994 weren't obligated to include the birth time . I found out about my real birth time when I opened my vaccination booklet. I don't know if you own one, but from where I'm from it is mandatory for a new born baby to immediately have one. There's a section in the booklet where the nurses write info about the newborn like weight, heart beat,time of birth etc. I was 100% sure I was a cap rising but I was wrong, I'm actually an Aqua with Saturn in the 1st. Not much help but hey good luck! IP: Logged |
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 09, 2012 11:29 PM
What country are you from? I'm not sure either if the country I'm born in lists birth time in the birth certificate which is another reason why I'm so NERVOUS about getting a copy of my birth certificate. All that pain-in-the ass hassle and payment only to discover your birth certificate doesn't have it? IP: Logged |
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 09, 2012 11:29 PM
Duplicate post please delete.IP: Logged |
MillyX Knowflake Posts: 434 From: canada Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 09, 2012 11:36 PM
I was born in Canada but each province or 'state' like the americans say have their own rules. So it will depend on that. Where were you born? You can search on the internet gov. websites to see if birthtimes are mandatory on birth certificates of your country.IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9235 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 09, 2012 11:36 PM
To be a Scorpio rising is not easy. I suppose u can do Chinese too. I had a book once that helped find birth time. I think they compare the year plus all the 12 animals so u will be able to at least have a 2 hr time frame. IP: Logged |
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 09, 2012 11:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by MillyX: I was born in Canada but each province or 'state' like the americans say have their own rules. So it will depend on that. Where were you born? You can search on the internet gov. websites to see if birthtimes are mandatory on birth certificates of your country.
I was born in the Philippines. Internet Gov website?What is one such site? quote: Originally posted by sand: To be a Scorpio rising is not easy. I suppose u can do Chinese too. I had a book once that helped find birth time. I think they compare the year plus all the 12 animals so u will be able to at least have a 2 hr time frame.
Exactly why I am near 100% sure I am a SCORPIO RISING. I won't reveal what happened in my life here (though if you're interested I'd be willing to major parts). I definitely fitted the descriptions spot on esp. "Nasty, Perverse, Violent, Self-Centered". IP: Logged |
MillyX Knowflake Posts: 434 From: canada Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 10, 2012 12:12 AM
Sorry I wasn't clear about that. I meant just google birth certificate Philippines then you'll see the rules. Go to the governments website Hmm yeah I know i have family still living in the philippines & getting or making changes with birth certificates & legal papers can be a pain...especially when you dont have alot of moneyIP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9235 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 10, 2012 12:36 AM
It is easy to get but u have to have someone get in person or you. I forget. But if ur here it is super easy. IP: Logged |
Ariehnox Knowflake Posts: 354 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted December 10, 2012 05:02 AM
Hey! More Filipinos! My birth certificate didn't include my time of birth, but my mom said it's around 6pm. I also want to know my exact tob though. I dunno if this is possible, but if you were born in a hospital, maybe you could ask if they kept birth records? You could also try learning birth rectification... though it would take aeons. Though I've also read about one local astrologer, her name's Leeanne/Lee-anne. Try looking up her info, maybe she could help you in person if you're afraid of online ones. EDIT: Sorry, it's LillyAnne: http://astrolilly.wordpress.com/get-a-personal-reading/ Though birth rectification isn't listed in her services... maybe you could still inquire? And I've just read this from Sand a few moments ago... Henry Palacios is also a resident astrologer of Cafe Ysabel in San Juan. Though yeah, those stuff are never cheap. Good luck though!
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sand Knowflake Posts: 9235 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 10, 2012 06:36 AM
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Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 10, 2012 06:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ariehnox: Hey! More Filipinos! My birth certificate didn't include my time of birth, but my mom said it's around 6pm. I also want to know my exact tob though. I dunno if this is possible, but if you were born in a hospital, maybe you could ask if they kept birth records? You could also try learning birth rectification... though it would take aeons. Though I've also read about one local astrologer, her name's Leeanne/Lee-anne. Try looking up her info, maybe she could help you in person if you're afraid of online ones. EDIT: Sorry, it's LillyAnne: http://astrolilly.wordpress.com/get-a-personal-reading/ Though birth rectification isn't listed in her services... maybe you could still inquire? And I've just read this from Sand a few moments ago... Henry Palacios is also a resident astrologer of Cafe Ysabel in San Juan. Though yeah, those stuff are never cheap. Good luck though!
When were you born?When did they started putting birth times on certificates? Unfortunately I no longer live in the Philippines............ This is exactly why trying to find an exact birth time (even if it was listed on my birth certificate) would be such a painful process if I tried primary sources :X. IP: Logged |
Aries Miranda Knowflake Posts: 73 From: Missouri, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 10, 2012 12:33 PM
I'm not sure how old you are, but you mention you're in school, so you may be too young for traditional rectification methods.I've been experimenting with a theoretical method that uses the moon and gestation period. It was invented by an astrologer called Sara (she has a website called sarastrology.com, but it seems to be down). I've got the instructions saved, maybe I could try this method for you? It would only take me about 10 minutes. IP: Logged |
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 10, 2012 12:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries Miranda: I'm not sure how old you are, but you mention you're in school, so you may be too young for traditional rectification methods.I've been experimenting with a theoretical method that uses the moon and gestation period. It was invented by an astrologer called Sara (she has a website called sarastrology.com, but it seems to be down). I've got the instructions saved, maybe I could try this method for you? It would only take me about 10 minutes.
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1273 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted December 10, 2012 12:57 PM
You could be a Libra Rising w/ Pluto on the ASC IP: Logged |
Aries Miranda Knowflake Posts: 73 From: Missouri, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 10, 2012 01:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Pisces Adonis: Go ahead.
May I have your date and place of birth? IP: Logged |
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 10, 2012 05:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: You could be a Libra Rising w/ Pluto on the ASC
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't your planets need to be on the first house to be a Rising Planet?My Pluto is in Scorpio. quote: Originally posted by Aries Miranda: May I have your date and place of birth?
March 16 1992. Place of birth is Manila, Philippines. IP: Logged |
Aries Miranda Knowflake Posts: 73 From: Missouri, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 10, 2012 06:34 PM
I tried the rectification 3 separate times using a different approximate time with each. 8 PM for the first one, 8:30 PM for the second, and 9 PM for the last. Each time, the result was 9:44 PM.If that time is correct, it puts your ASC at 19° Scorpio. IP: Logged |
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 14, 2012 12:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries Miranda: I tried the rectification 3 separate times using a different approximate time with each. 8 PM for the first one, 8:30 PM for the second, and 9 PM for the last. Each time, the result was 9:44 PM.If that time is correct, it puts your ASC at 19° Scorpio.
Can you post the steps?I'm interested in trying it out. IP: Logged |
Aries Miranda Knowflake Posts: 73 From: Missouri, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 14, 2012 10:06 PM
I'm not sure I should be posting the instructions since it's not my "intellectual property" so I'll just post the link to the website. It seems like it was only down temporarily to be redesigned.Sarastrology There are a few other methods on the site that might interest you. They're a lot more complex and take a lot longer, though. IP: Logged |
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 28, 2012 10:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries Miranda: I'm not sure I should be posting the instructions since it's not my "intellectual property" so I'll just post the link to the website. It seems like it was only down temporarily to be redesigned.Sarastrology There are a few other methods on the site that might interest you. They're a lot more complex and take a lot longer, though.
I just learned my PRECISE TIME of Birth and its actually at 9:26. Still your Recitification technique proved accurate in that it was correct I was born in the Pisces Decan of Scorpio though its 14'58° rather than 19°. IP: Logged |
Pisces Adonis Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Catholic Altair Registered: Oct 2012
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posted January 11, 2013 10:55 PM
Aries Miranda can you do me a favor?I tried to do the recitification process but got lost half way. I ask that you: 1)Recitify my new Birth Time Its 9:26 PM. Yes its on the birth certificate but I'm just curious if I would still be a Scorpio Rising according to the Recitification method. I tried to do it and I think I did something wrong int he steps. I ended up as Cancer Rising with my new birth time. Place of birth, Manila Philippines.
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