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gen75
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posted December 13, 2012 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sort of seeing a Pisces man (I am a Cancer) and I know how emotional they are because he is. We have been work acquaintances for several years and in the last year started texting on occasion and a few months ago we decided to become fwb. After our first hook up he began texting me every morning and we would text all day with just random conversation. For the first couple of months, I never initiated the conversations because I knew he would. The sex is amazing and there is obviously passion and emotion... Here is the problem, he has a child that was an accident and even though he resents the mother and never really liked her in the first place (this is common knowledge to our mutual friends)but she really wants more from him and has even before the baby. Now he is conflicted with being a family for his daughter and his own happiness. This affects our relationship because he feels guilty about our benefits and we have decided not to have any until he sorts this out which he has been saying for a couple of months now. He has opened up to me about how much he resents the mother of his child to the point that he is teary eyed. I am not sure if he feels something for me, my friends thinks he does. I have been supportive and understanding, I listen and do not give advice but I really care about him. I know he is trying to do what is best for everyone and he avoids confrontation with her even though she loves to fight and she fights dirty and violently. Would a pisces man sacrifice his own happiness to be with a woman he resents?

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posted December 13, 2012 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Generally speaking, unevolved Pisces tend to fall for really bad people who know how to manipulate their emotions, even if they feel terrible over it. Generally speaking and only thinking of their sun's influence, they're much more swayed by emotion than reason.

However, after a period of time ranging from weeks to years, they will explode and that person will be utterly gone from their hearts. Of course many of them will then repeat their mistake and continue the cycle.

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posted December 14, 2012 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Generally speaking, unevolved Pisces tend to fall for really bad people who know how to manipulate their emotions, even if they feel terrible over it. Generally speaking and only thinking of their sun's influence, they're much more swayed by emotion than reason.

However, after a period of time ranging from weeks to years, they will explode and that person will be utterly gone from their hearts. Of course many of them will then repeat their mistake and continue the cycle.


I will agree here, cept be plese take care in using the term "unevolved."

Some Pisces put themselves before others, (raises hand) and some are ultra selfish, the "Fish swimming down thing."

Pisces, generally will always fall for emotion, fall into this kind of fantasy..love love for the sake of love and not who they are with this has tripped me up all of my life.

Sounds like this guy is really struggling with a hard decision

Course we all know that unhappy parents divided is much more healthy for the kid/s cause they will know exactly what is going on.

And yes, in time he will grow to resent the woman more...Pisces like to stay way, way longer than are good for anybody..

Been there done that WAY too many times.

All I can say and reiterate is Pisces confuses love of another with alot of things, but tends to love love and not necessarially the person they are with.

We can put on those rose colored specs and live in our dream worlds not how matter how bad it really is.

Unevolved No, not necessarially, just the way of the Pisces dream~

t~

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posted December 14, 2012 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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gen75
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posted December 14, 2012 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Welcome!

I have gotten the feeling that he is going to have to snap on her and it won't be pretty.
He has shared a lot with me, he's quite the chatter box, and always looks into my eyes when we talk and during sex. I have come to really care about him but I don't know how long I can wait or if there is something I can do to reassure him.

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posted December 14, 2012 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Generally speaking, unevolved Pisces tend to fall for really bad people who know how to manipulate their emotions, even if they feel terrible over it. Generally speaking and only thinking of their sun's influence, they're much more swayed by emotion than reason.

However, after a period of time ranging from weeks to years, they will explode and that person will be utterly gone from their hearts. Of course many of them will then repeat their mistake and continue the cycle.


She definetly manipulates him. His daughter will be 3 soon so I hope he is getting close to being tired of the cycle.

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posted December 15, 2012 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The baby mama is definitely manipulating him by using the child as a crutch to get more "help" and he feels like he ain't doing enough for the child, that's why he gets upset because he wishes better for the child. It hurts his heart because that's his blood.

Or it could mean he was raised to hold down a family through thick or thin and sometimes has feelings of giving her a chance of a family life, even though she's sick, he feels responsible because he is the father.


When a women has a baby for a man she naturally becomes somewhat superior to him, but some women use it to their advantage, and this is what you call women without morals and lack of intelligents.


STAND YOUR GROUND WITH HER WITHOUT BLINKING.... She'll realize you got his back, that's why she plays those games, you see??

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posted December 15, 2012 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't buy it!! He wants/wanted out of your arrangement.

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LovelyAries86
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posted December 15, 2012 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hippichick:


Pisces, generally will always fall for emotion, fall into this kind of fantasy..love love for the sake of love and not who they are with this has tripped me up all of my life.


All I can say and reiterate is Pisces confuses love of another with alot of things, but tends to love love and not necessarially the person they are with.

We can put on those rose colored specs and live in our dream worlds not how matter how bad it really is.

t~


Hello.

I've been dating a Pisces man for the last 5 months. I've refrained from getting serious with him for the reason you mentioned above: "tends to love love and not necessarially the person they are with."

So how exactly will I (or the OP above) know if our Pisces is truly in love with US and not just the image or fantasy of love??

I told my guy "Don't make me feel like you are just pulling my damn name out of a hat for a relationship! Love is a serious business and you must be wise with WHO you are giving your heart to!"

He says that he learns a lot from me. And we have chemistry. But I don't completely trust him yet. Not because I think he's a liar or a cheater...but because he seems internally confused, which would leave *me* confused...and my Venus in Taurus DOES NOT ALLOW for confusion! LOL

At what point should a person feel safe in trusting a Pisces emotions? (btw, he's also Venus in Aquarius)

Thanks in advance.

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posted December 15, 2012 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
[b] Hello.

I've been dating a Pisces man for the last 5 months. I've refrained from getting serious with him for the reason you mentioned above: "tends to love love and not necessarially the person they are with."

So how exactly will I (or the OP above) know if our Pisces is truly in love with US and not just the image
or fantasy of love??
I told my guy "Don't make me feel like you are just pulling my damn name out of a hat for a relationship! Love is a serious business and you must be wise with WHO you are giving your heart to!"

He says that he learns a lot from me. And we have chemistry. But I don't completely trust him yet. Not because I think he's a liar or a cheater...but because he seems internally confused, which would leave *me* confused...and my Venus in Taurus DOES NOT ALLOW for confusion! LOL

At what point should a person feel safe in trusting a Pisces emotions? (btw, he's also Venus in Aquarius)

Thanks in advance. (quote)

Well that is a good question. With men Pisces the very feminine energy is hard for them to deal with in the first place, I dated one. And I think men Pisces are especially prone to living an illusion.

Having said that, read stelluims thread and her Pisces man woes...he just won't say it, but that is a man for ya.

Think Pisces men are really uncomfortable in their feminine Fish skin and never really sure of anything unless they have some quality earth.

Now me, being a female have no problems letting a man know I love him, and since I am highly Aquarian, mentally especially I can get confused ( water and air makes that dense, creepy fog.)

I have been messing around with a very Virgo for nearly 2 years now (by the way he moved back to your neck of the woods...Cincinnati, his home a suburb) and I think he could tell you that I truely love him not in my words alone but my actions; sticking with him after many, many difficulties, putting his wellbeing and happiness above my wants, supporting and encouraging him to move home, A good 1200 miles from me.

Son all in all, with a Pisces male I would say it is in the actions that one can decipher true love!

Bless ins!

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posted December 15, 2012 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the strange format...

At work on my iPad

Will try to fix it later

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posted December 15, 2012 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being-a-family for his daughter, does that mean to literally *BE* (living) with her and his daughter?

If a YES, then I would say if she was TRULY such a "violent" and "dirty" troublemaker only he wouldn't even THINK about it.

And then the pulled victim card isn't his only inner reality. The hidden guilt to HER (the woman) would also be an existing one.

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posted December 15, 2012 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hippichick! Haha
I have been in a relationship with a Pisces for 4 years. "Listen" to his actions, what he will do for you. This speaks how much he loves you. Do not depend on verbal expressions.

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posted December 15, 2012 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hippichick:
Sorry for the strange format...

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Will try to fix it later



Thanks for your feedback!

So your guy is in Cincy? I'm trying to get the hell out of here! lol

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posted December 15, 2012 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StelliumH6:
hippichick! Haha
I have been in a relationship with a Pisces for 4 years. "Listen" to his actions, what he will do for you. This speaks how much he loves you. Do not depend on verbal expressions.


I'm VERY up-front with him. I told him actions speak much louder than words! And they do lol. I believe he got my drift.

Again though...he has a lot of both Pisces (in love with love) and Aquarius (everyone is my friend) in his chart. Some Scorpio also, so he can be prone to being a bit secretive. Will it be easy for me to SEE how he feels even with some action??

He generally is a good guy who tries to keep his word with everyone, not just with me. I don't know...maybe I'm being paranoid lol. I just want to make sure and I am open to all the advice I can about his personality type.

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posted December 15, 2012 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Being-a-family for his daughter, does that mean to literally *BE* (living) with her and his daughter?

If a YES, then I would say if she was TRULY such a "violent" and "dirty" troublemaker only he wouldn't even THINK about it.

And then the pulled victim card isn't his only inner reality. The hidden guilt to HER (the woman) would also be an existing one.


They do not live together. They tried that when the baby was born and it ended with her punching him and kicking him down the stairs and her sitting in a police car in his driveway. He knows they will never work but for some reason feels an obligation. When ever he tries to negotiate anything with her regarding the child it turns ugly so he says nothing. He doesnt stand up to her much and I can't believe he would want to live his life that way.

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posted December 15, 2012 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:

I'm VERY up-front with him. I told him actions speak much louder than words! And they do lol. I believe he got my drift.

Again though...he has a lot of both Pisces (in love with love) and Aquarius (everyone is my friend) in his chart. Some Scorpio also, so he can be prone to being a bit secretive. Will it be easy for me to SEE how he feels
even with some action??

He generally is a good guy who tries to keep his word
with everyone, not just with me. I don't know...maybe I'm being paranoid lol. I just want to make sure and I
am open to all the advice I can about his personality
type.



I am an Aquarian colored Pisces, with a Scorp asc.

I always hesitate to post on Pisces male threads, but sometimes I go there since I am one and I dated one.

I always say gender first, astrology second

The Aqua in him will make him not only friendly but personally aloof. And Scorpio can make us secretive, but in the Pisces Scorpio can bring out the Shadow of the Pisces....

Cinci yup! He ran home with his tail between his legs after spending a coupla years in San Antonio. Funny most folks love it here, from the Midwest. I was born in Indiana, raised in Ohio and trying to get back to Indy

Sounds like you are quite on to yoou Pisces guy!

t~


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posted December 15, 2012 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
The baby mama is definitely manipulating him by using the child as a crutch to get more "help" and he feels like he ain't doing enough for the child, that's why he gets upset because he wishes better for the child. It hurts his heart because that's his blood.

Or it could mean he was raised to hold down a family through thick or thin and sometimes has feelings of giving her a chance of a family life, even though she's sick, he feels responsible because he is the father.


When a women has a baby for a man she naturally becomes somewhat superior to him, but some women use it to their advantage, and this is what you call women without morals and lack of intelligents.


STAND YOUR GROUND WITH HER WITHOUT BLINKING.... She'll realize you got his back, that's why she plays those games, you see??


I think its both. His parents have been married for 45 years, his father is also a Pisces. I really admire his desire to be the best father he can be, i find it very attractive.

I'm pretty sure he knows I have his back. He is constantly checking in with me and making sure Im ok or if I understand. He apologizes all the time for his craziness.

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posted December 15, 2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't buy it!! He wants/wanted out of your arrangement.

I dont think he does, he always comes back for more and if he gets jealous of another guy its an immediate response.

He just told me that he is in a situation that he needs to figure out how to get out of while being fair and honest to everyone. I dont think he realizes thats impossible. I have told him not to worry about me, that I will be ok because they are the rest of his life and I am a small chapter. He puts everyone elses feelings ahead of his own.

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posted December 15, 2012 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hippichick:

I am an Aquarian colored Pisces, with a Scorp asc.

I always hesitate to post on Pisces male threads, but sometimes I go there since I am one and I dated one.

I always say gender first, astrology second

The Aqua in him will make him not only friendly but personally aloof. And Scorpio can make us secretive, but in the Pisces Scorpio can bring out the Shadow of the Pisces....

Cinci yup! He ran home with his tail between his legs after spending a coupla years in San Antonio. Funny most folks love it here, from the Midwest. I was born in Indiana, raised in Ohio and trying to get back to Indy

Sounds like you are quite on to yoou Pisces guy!

t~


Yes I'm trying my best to get him figured out!

I am Sun in Aries, Moon in Cancer, and Libra Rising. Do you think him & I could work?

I made a thread this morning for this specifically if you have anymore to add. I'm trying not to hijack this thread from the OP! LOL

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posted December 15, 2012 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Yes I'm trying my best to get him figured out!

I am Sun in Aries, Moon in Cancer, and Libra Rising. Do you think him & I could work?

I made a thread this morning for this specifically if you have anymore to add. I'm trying not to hijack this thread from the OP! LOL


I dont mind if you hijack..lol.. He also has moon in Scorpio and any info on Pisces is helpful. They are so confusing!!

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posted December 15, 2012 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gen75:
I dont mind if you hijack..lol.. He also has moon in Scorpio and any info on Pisces is helpful. They are so confusing!!

Liz Taylor
Johnny Cash
Adam Levine (lead of Maroon 5)

They ALL have Sun in Pisces and Moon in Scorpio.

I've been studying those (3) lately. Especially Adam, since he has some Aquarius in his chart like my current love interest.

Does your guy overwhelm you with his Double Water combo?

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posted December 15, 2012 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Liz Taylor
Johnny Cash
Adam Levine (lead of Maroon 5)

They ALL have Sun in Pisces and Moon in Scorpio.

I've been studying those (3) lately. Especially Adam, since he has some Aquarius in his chart like my current love interest.

Does your guy overwhelm you with his Double Water combo?


I love Adam Levine... My Pisces is more like Johnny Cash.

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I hate being the one to point out the elephant, all the time...

You know what? Most guys who are involved with another woman to some degree or another, pretty much say the types of stuff you're getting from this guy - that the mother of his child/wife/girlfriend is awful, that he's sticking around because of some obligation or financial issue, and blah blah blah.

I see where some of the folks here basically said that you should battle this woman. Don't. You're getting one side of the story. One. The truth could very well be something else entirely.

Not only that, it's just a sh1tty thing to do, because that's between them. You'd have absolutely no business or right ambushing this woman attacking her or exchanging words with her in a situation involving her child, based off of what some guy told you, that might not even be true. And I promise you, there's no way any woman worth her weight in salt, is going to respond well to a series of attacks from a strange woman that's slept with her child's father.

It's just incredibly disrespectful and a sure-fire way to turn things into some out of control, toxic situation. Plus, you'll just wind up looking like a fool and an a55hole if it turns out the guy lied to you.

My ideas on it? Hold back and keep your distance from the guy for awhile until you know for sure what is what, because you probably don't have the full story yet.

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posted December 15, 2012 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I hate being the one to point out the elephant, all the time...

You know what? Most guys who are involved with another woman to some degree or another, pretty much say the types of stuff you're getting from this guy - that the mother of his child/wife/girlfriend is awful, that he's sticking around because of some obligation or financial issue, and blah blah blah.

I see where some of the folks here basically said that you should battle this woman. Don't. You're getting one side of the story. One. The truth could very well be something else entirely.

Not only that, it's just a sh1tty thing to do, because that's between them. You'd have absolutely no business or right ambushing this woman attacking her or exchanging words with her in a situation involving her child, based off of what some guy told you, that might not even be true. And I promise you, there's no way any woman worth her weight in salt, is going to respond well to a series of attacks from a strange woman that's slept with her child's father.

It's just incredibly disrespectful and a sure-fire way to turn things into some out of control, toxic situation. Plus, you'll just wind up looking like a fool and an a55hole if it turns out the guy lied to you.

My ideas on it? Hold back and keep your distance from the guy for awhile until you know for sure what is what, because you probably don't have the full story yet.


I would never battle her or get involved in their problems. No matter what, she is the mother of his child.

I don't think he is lying because our mutual friends know the same story, it isn't just me and I knew about the situation before we got involved, i just had no idea how much it affected him. She also knows who I am because we worked together but I transferred to another location.

I went into this just for sex but he has made it complicated. and to me the only reason it should be complicated is if he wants more than just sex. I do agree on keeping some distance and plan to do so.

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