posted December 16, 2012 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by dadevi:
Strong but repressed emotions. Can get to the root of a secret without exposing themselves. May be the victim of projected evils. Good aspect for spies, psychologists, and talk show hosts.

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posted December 16, 2012 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
I have this and a report from astrology.com described it thus-
You have always felt vulnerable when deep emotional issues are brought up, and may have a history of avoiding confrontation and self-examination. You are ever so sensitive to ideas of death, helplessness, and vulnerability in general. You see them only too well, and they haunt you. There may well be some childhood experiences that were rough or harsh for you to accept. Any partner will have to tread very gently when it comes to matters of feelings and security.

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posted December 16, 2012 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
The harsh childhood incidents are usually worse than the norm such as suffering or witnessing abuse. Which may leave people feeling more vulnerable and fragile, therefore, needing greater and continued reassurances and a sense of security when in a relationship.

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Hmm, that was me. I hope other Moon opp. Pluto people respond to see if they have other experiences or not though.

posted December 16, 2012 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What's an example of projected evils?

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posted December 16, 2012 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by dadevi:
Projected evils would scapegoating of some kind. Being blamed for a crime someone else committed.

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posted December 16, 2012 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Sorry hannarama - I didn't see this thread at all earlier!!

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posted December 17, 2012 02:43 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
it makes life an emotional rollercoaster, emotions can change dramatically in an instant. i'll admit im pretty moody for being a man lol.

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posted December 17, 2012 08:13 AM            

For me, it's exactly like what Astro keen posted.
Strong, and I mean *very* strong emotions, that are usually "buried", repressed, or expressed in a destructive way (conflict, anger, addictions, etc).

I often become numb, like I can't feel anything at all. No joy, no pain, nothing. That's the defense mechanism which is trying to make me understand that I haven't dealt with some past hurts which are now haunting me and preventing me from experiencing life at its fullest. Moon/Pluto hard aspects are often associated with depression, which makes total sense: because we are so sensitive and experience events with great intensity, every painful experience becomes unbearable to us, so we just numb it out, trying to "kill" it, make it disappear. Because the intensity of our feelings scares us, we'd rather not deal with them at all than trying to face all these monsters. But by numbing our negative emotions, we numb everything else, and that in turn creates a vague feeling of nothingness - a void inside, that we try to fill with compulsive behaviours (food, drugs, sex, internet, "love", etc). But at some point the void grows bigger and bigger, which can lead to complete exhaustion of resources and leave us hopeless.

At this point it's crucial to understand that depression has its roots in unexpressed emotions which have been following us since our birth, and which we have been repressing, giving them no possibility of healthy expression. It's like carrying a huge weight which we are unable to let go.

And when the Moon/Pluto person gets close to someone (and by close, I mean even in their own head, emotionally and not necessarily physically), all their repressed hurt and unhealed "damage" breaks free. That's why we tend to be insecure, controlling and complete "freaks" when it comes to closeness. Many Moon/Pluto people are too afraid to face that part of themselves and consequently whenever they get close to someone and feel the gates opening, they sabotage everything and run away or make the other person run away. I know a lot of us prefer shallow associations which never lead to emotional closeness because it's "safer".

It's difficult and yet very important to understand that such destructive behaviours are defense mechanisms installed in childhood to prevent more pain. But they're not working anymore, causing more and more frustration and painful situations. A growing feeling of loneliness takes place, until the Moon/Pluto person learns to be *vulnerable* and truly *feel* what they have inside.

A Scorpio Moon is nowhere near as intense and difficult as a Moon/Pluto hard aspect, in my opinion.
I think Moon/Pluto flowing aspects can have some of the negative expressions of Moon/Pluto hard aspects but usually the person deals with their emotions in a healthier way, and doesn't necessarily experience such intensity in their feelings. To me, it's like a "natural" flow, they don't need to work on it. It just is. Whereas with hard aspects you have to become self-aware to stop the negative cycle, and actually *work* on it.