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doommlord
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posted December 15, 2012 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im chatting with a man i met
He is a scorpio sun with mars conjunct pluto in scorpio
Virgo moon probably (have no time so it might be leo)

What can you say about a person with those kind of placements...i myself saw that he enjoys provoking others for his enjoyment an is munipulative but il be glad to get feedback from the community

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Moonfish
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posted December 15, 2012 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey DL, I have this

I only do that to people who've done it to me.
Perhaps that's his way of getting attention? especially if his moon is in Leo.

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SaturnineMoth
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posted December 15, 2012 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for a man I bet it's great combination!~

And, I think you are probably very correct in how you perceive his interest in subtle manipulations, power struggles, challenges, and need for tension --- that drive for tension... I believe is a common line with Scorpion mars-plu cnj hehe

But, since I'm a woman... it's not such a great cnj combo~ much less desirable I think...

Being Scoprion Sun too though, he's probably very in tune with his drives for power, and if he's well evolved *as they go*... I bet he's the type to want to bring power to others too... supportive... probably dominating --- but yeah, it's hard to separate where that comes from with the sun, pluto, and mars in scorpio... x.x ---

He's probably an exceptionally deep thinker, but, wouldn't want to get him too wound up.... mars-pluto is very intolerant when pressed... especially in scorpions - then there's other negatives; austerity, megalomania, dangerous passions, possessive behaviors, becoming bored with the superficiality around them... mars and pluto would be magnified in their potential I think... he'll be an extremest either way.

empe that is ---

(pov of 5h Cap Sun, w/ 01 Mars-02 Plu in 3h Sco)

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doommlord
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posted December 15, 2012 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to spice up things...
For all those who dont know i also have mars conjunct pluto in scorpio and our mars pluto conjunctions....are conjunct in synastry!

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doommlord
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posted December 16, 2012 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone else?

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dadevi
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posted December 16, 2012 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadevi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you pursue this relationship, expect power games in bed and everywhere else. He'll be able to push your buttons, and you'll be able to push his. However, if you are open and honest about things kept hidden by your Pluto, this can be an exciting, transformative experience for the both of you.

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posted December 17, 2012 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Moon is in early Virgo, but it's in the 5th, adding a Leo flavour to it.
Sun/Mercury Scorp, Mars/Pluto Scorp.

I like provoking people, yes. But not in a mean way, more in a playful way. If I provoke someone seriously, it's probably because I don't like the person, or I want to find out what they're all about. I sometimes create drama just for the sake of feeling the tension it creates. I can't stand it when things are too calm, too practical, too predictable. Which is quite paradoxical, because Earth Moon craves stability. So I very often find myself sabotaging stable things and destroying "good" things (I have Moon sq Pluto, wide orb). It's like playing with fire. I push my limits, and I push other people's limits (by creating conflict, for example). But at the same time, I secretely hope all this destructive behaviour will strengthen the bond and "prove" me that the other person truly cares for me. It's like a huge mind-game in which I want the other person to bear with my psychological BS, but believe it or not, most of the time I just can't help myself but do it. I don't do it on purpose. It's like a trigger that gets pushed whenever I get too close to someone.

Obviously I'm very possessive, but only when I truly care for someone, otherwise I couldn't care less. I've learned to loosen up, when I was younger I was definitely a walking bomb. I still struggle with negativity and anxiety, though. But I think I'm getting better.

In relationships, I'm not very dominating. Actually quite the opposite. Maybe that's because I'm a woman - I tend to expect the guy to take the lead.
With more superficial associations, however, I can come across as bossy/forceful. Sometimes people take me too seriously and I get suprised when they're offended by some things I say. But the people who know me well know that I sometimes say things just to shock people or get a reaction out of them. It really depends.

I seldom get truly mad, it takes a LOT to get me angry, but when I do, it's quite spectacular. It gets so overwhelming that I start shaking and crying and I can shout very loud, I always tell people to get away from me so I can calm down because it's very hard to control, and I can throw stuff on the ground, etc.
I don't think anyone could ever make me mad to that point, though. Except my mother.

[I have Saturn sq my Scorpio planets btw, anger issues ?]


I'd say that Scorpio influenced people are *often* (not always) quite insecure at the core, which can easily make us a bit "neurotic" in relationships, like very suspicious, overly jealous, possessive, sometimes angry or depressed (when we perceive a threat).
Of course many won't show their hurt and will just turn cold or indifferent, but watch out for emotional outbursts. We're very intense about some things.

Also, better be honest and genuine from the beginning. We don't like hypocrisy or too shallow people. For ex, if I ask someone a question, personal or random, I expect an honest answer, and if I can smell BS, it's a huge turn-off. Usually I "classify" people as soon as I meet them: trustworthy vs not trustworthy.

Last point: we're strategists. Scorpio Mars can be direct but it can also be very indirect, working a "scheme" or "plan" to get what it wants. Tests of all kinds are possible, but people who do that are usually quite immature or power-hungry. At our best, we're willing to face anything straight on, and deal with all the obstacles as they come up.

Ps. In synastry I'd expect "hidden" fireworks. Like a lingering intensity which may not ever be talked about but only "felt".

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doommlord
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posted December 17, 2012 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@doux

he did try to pry into my business and i tried to pry into his (im a libra with mars conjunct pluto) and both revealed very little....as it seems now we reveal little by little to each other....

i talked with another person scorpio guy has known and found out he used the same methods as he did on me (boundry pusing,guilt playing and prying into personal bysiness)

he pushed me into trying to video chat him and when i agressively refused he said he was kidding....but i got really mad.... i guess i kind of took my anger out at him for his behaviour...he suddenly said sorry and asked me if i hated him....i myself believe its game playing again but im unsure....so i didnt answer

do you think he is an evolved type? i can post a chart without birthtime if anyone asks

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