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vickymadness
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posted December 18, 2012 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how ?
I read once that the release from the stressful T-square is by the house opposing to house where the "focal point" is.

Is that true ?

*optional: I have Jupiter-Venus-Saturn in fixed signs.

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sand
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posted December 18, 2012 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The pattern formed by the "T square" can be identified as the Holy Grail .The dynamic of the T square will manifest as, a very subjective need to follow, with great determination, what makes the individual feel emotionally secure. The conflict will be manifesting as a need to relate emotionally in a very spiritual way while maintaining all the security structures around the self. The need to share one self completely, with another, without denying personal self-gratification, will be challenged, as it is very difficult to be generous and selfish, at the same time. As transiting and progressed planets will reach the degree of opposition to the Pilot planet a "grand square" major configuration will occur.

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posted December 18, 2012 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 3 all fixed, all together in a nice little commune and ya just deal with it.

I have found tho, that when something transits one of the planets, my life is turned upside down, cause of course my Mars, Jupiter and Mercury and Moon are involved.

I have always liked the "missing leg" theory.

When something comes along to fill that void then the tsquare is challenged.

I really think they are a blessing.

They have given me so many hurdles in life, but I over come again and again and again and I think that is the lesson in the tsquare~

t~

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posted December 18, 2012 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
The pattern formed by the "T square" can be identified as the Holy Grail .The dynamic of the T square will manifest as, a very subjective need to follow, with great determination, what makes the individual feel emotionally secure. The conflict will be manifesting as a need to relate emotionally in a very spiritual way while maintaining all the security structures around the self. The need to share one self completely, with another, without denying personal self-gratification, will be challenged, as it is very difficult to be generous and selfish, at the same time. As transiting and progressed planets will reach the degree of opposition to the Pilot planet a "grand square" major configuration will occur.

Now THAT is a take I have not heard of? And I like it...it is ME!

t~

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posted December 18, 2012 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not a bad configuration. I prefer it to something like a grand trine. But then I dislike my trines and relaxing overall.

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posted December 18, 2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's still the apex u have to concentrate on.. At least the issues connected to it.. I read the release could also be the closest aspect to the formation..

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ail221
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posted December 18, 2012 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Both square and opposition aspects are supposed to be stressful aspects, which can panic the neophytes in astrology when they see they have a T-Square in their natal chart. This is a frequent chart aspect in most successful people. And most successful people can tell you that their success has had its ups and downs, yet they keep moving toward their intended goal. Would you believe Oprah Winfrey has a T-Square? When you think of the challenges she has openly admitted to the world, it makes perfect sense. T-Squares give a person experience, wisdom and character.

"Therefore, you will more than likely see T-Square's in the natal charts of CEO's, leaders, famous or creative people because there is nothing that would stop them from attaining their goal. And because of the challenges they experienced, this makes them all the more successful since the focus was brought about by the T-Square.

Having a T-Square is like driving a car with 3 wheels. It's obvious you're only driving with 3 wheels so identifying and fixing the problem is fairly easy. If you drove a car with three wheels, you'd have a fairly Good idea what to do in order to fix the car and make it driveable.

So which point do you look at to identify the problem? Look to the planet that is at the 90 degree angle and then look directly across to the other side of the chart and THAT is the point focus. What planet is there and what sign is it in? If there is no planet there, then look at that particular house to see what the house focus is. Then focus on the house rulerships for the answer to any problems.

If a "singleton" planet is involved, then this is the point focus. A "singleton" planet is one that is sitting by itself and away from any other planets, yet it is involved in the T-Square.

You can also look to see where there is emptiness. A T-Square is really a Grand Cross with a planet missing on the other side. Look to see what is on the opposite side of the chart that is not part of the T-Square and see what sign is over there. There's a clue right there. Look to the house position, the sign that is represented there and any planets involved.

By the way, T-Squarer's never give up!"
http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_tsquare.shtml

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vickymadness
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posted December 18, 2012 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So which point do you look at to identify the problem? Look to the planet that is at the 90 degree angle and then look directly across to the other side of the chart and THAT is the point focus. What planet is there and what sign is it in? If there is no planet there, then look at that particular house to see what the house focus is. Then focus on the house rulerships for the answer to any problems.

If a "singleton" planet is involved, then this is the point focus.


this! thank you ail

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ail221
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posted December 18, 2012 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
[QUOTE][b]So which point do you look at to identify the problem? Look to the planet that is at the 90 degree angle and then look directly across to the other side of the chart and THAT is the point focus. What planet is there and what sign is it in? If there is no planet there, then look at that particular house to see what the house focus is. Then focus on the house rulerships for the answer to any problems.

If a "singleton" planet is involved, then this is the point focus.


this! thank you ail [/B][/QUOTE]

No problem!

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Faith
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posted December 18, 2012 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 18, 2012 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a cardinal stellium with fixed t-squares and cardinal t-squares.
It really is like driving a three wheeled car and being too stubborn to ask for help but once I figure out how to do something I feel as if I won the gold

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hippichick
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posted December 18, 2012 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
"Both square and opposition aspects are supposed to be stressful aspects, which can panic the neophytes in astrology when they see they have a T-Square in their natal chart. This is a frequent chart aspect in most successful people. And most successful people can tell you that their success has had its ups and downs, yet they keep moving toward their intended goal. Would you believe Oprah Winfrey has a T-Square? When you think of the challenges she has openly admitted to the world, it makes perfect sense. T-Squares give a person experience, wisdom and character.

"Therefore, you will more than likely see T-Square's in the natal charts of CEO's, leaders, famous or creative people because there is nothing that would stop them from attaining their goal. And because of the challenges they experienced, this makes them all the more successful since the focus was brought about by the T-Square.

Having a T-Square is like driving a car with 3 wheels. It's obvious you're only driving with 3 wheels so identifying and fixing the problem is fairly easy. If you drove a car with three wheels, you'd have a fairly Good idea what to do in order to fix the car and make it driveable.

So which point do you look at to identify the problem? Look to the planet that is at the 90 degree angle and then look directly across to the other side of the chart and THAT is the point focus. What planet is there and what sign is it in? If there is no planet there, then look at that particular house to see what the house focus is. Then focus on the house rulerships for the answer to any problems.

If a "singleton" planet is involved, then this is the point focus. A "singleton" planet is one that is sitting by itself and away from any other planets, yet it is involved in the T-Square.

You can also look to see where there is emptiness. A T-Square is really a Grand Cross with a planet missing on the other side. Look to see what is on the opposite side of the chart that is not part of the T-Square and see what sign is over there. There's a clue right there. Look to the house position, the sign that is represented there and any planets involved.

By the way, T-Squarer's never give up!"
http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_tsquare.shtml


I like this~

Very good!

Do you speak of the "missing leg"

For me it is my Scorpio asc...and when something comes along and apects it or somebody...bam!

t~

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Faith
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posted December 18, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ My sister's Cancer sun-moon-Mercury is the missing leg for my cardinal t-square and...

Well we don't have all year to talk about it.

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vickymadness
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posted December 18, 2012 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Yes, thanks ail.

I have a fixed t-square, a cardinal t-square, and a mutable t-square.

My Cap sun is

1) a singleton (only earth sign)
2) The apex of my cardinal t-square
3) At the optimal degree of 15
4) In mutual reception with Saturn

And I'm Leo rising, so this weird sun rules my chart.

This is a puzzle I've never quite figured out, but I'm starting to think that because my sun is in the 6H, and Saturn is in the 12H, my "calling" is about helping people with their spiritual issues.

I can interpret all my t-squares as mountains to climb, preparing me to help others, if I can.


oh I think I get it, my apex is venus in 3H. So I have to voice my philosophy/knowledge (9H)..?
what f I have a pluto singleton in the 9H would that affect ?

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